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Ok Narcia, you're good to go in there now lol.



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If I decide to play mage, this would be an interesting conquest for sure. :D But what would be more interesting for me is that the game makes this relationship very hard to  keep... That there's strong possibilities that Cullen decides to leave the mage at some point of the game, or at the end...

I hope not, but i keep remembering Gaider saying something about how Cullen fans won't like the direction they're taking him, and I get all nervous.  i mean, it's Gaider, so it's not exactly reliable, but still...

 

I tried to finish that playthrough with Alistair where he dumped me for just considering keeping Loghain alive (a possible bug, still not sure...) but i couldn't do it. I ended up re-loading to fix it.  Difficult romances are fun, but impossible doomed-from-the-start ones - not so much.



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Oh, I totally wouldn't be surprised if he did pull a stunt like that, not just on mage Inquisitors but any class, lol. You know what BioWare are like!

I do indeed :lol: I am going to try my absolute hardest to roll with the punches but they will get a shiny new bottle of fan tears if it does happen :D and possibly a cupcake, for making me cry -again- at a video game (oh Mordin, you scientist salarian, I'm sorry you didn't get to collect any shells)


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I love the idea of romancing Cullen with a mage because I KNOW there will be friction there. I want it to be a major stumbling block, but one we can overcome.

 

Magic IS a real issue in Thedas. It IS a problem. It IS dangerous.

As all those pesky blood mages and abominations and card-carrying mage villains have shown us time and again. And Anders. Let's not forget Anders. BUT! Not all mages are evil either and many are capable of great good. Personally, I feel some of the greatest connection to my mage characters, because being a healer just speaks to me and caters to my nature as a caregiver/service-centered person. Bonus points if I can also stomp around the battlefield throwing my foes around and burning them to a crisp.

 

And there it is.

 

Even the most caring mage has the potential to be downright terrifying, even if they never turn that side loose on their friends/loved ones/innocents. People NEED to be cautious with mages. Templars most of all, because they know (and Cullen has seen first hand MORE THAN ONCE) what evils mages are capable of. So Cullen has every right to be suspicious of a mage and I fully expect him to be. But I'm possitively giddy at the thought of him falling for a mage and loving them for everything they are. Even that magical part of them.

 

For the record, my first Inquisitor is going to be a mage who will be gunning for Cullen and the first world-state I'm importing is going to have these previous romances: Amell/Alistair and Mage!Hawke/Fenris. :lol:


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I love the idea of romancing Cullen with a mage because I KNOW there will be friction there. I want it to be a major stumbling block, but one we can overcome.

 

Magic IS a real issue in Thedas. It IS a problem. It IS dangerous.

As all those pesky blood mages and abominations and card-carrying mage villains have shown us time and again. And Anders. Let's not forget Anders. BUT! Not all mages are evil either and many are capable of great good. Personally, I feel some of the greatest connection to my mage characters, because being a healer just speaks to me and caters to my nature as a caregiver/service-centered person. Bonus points if I can also stomp around the battlefield throwing my foes around and burning them to a crisp.

 

And there it is.

 

Even the most caring mage has the potential to be downright terrifying, even if they never turn that side loose on their friends/loved ones/innocents. People NEED to be cautious with mages. Templars most of all, because they know (and Cullen has seen first hand MORE THAN ONCE) what evils mages are capable of. So Cullen has every right to be suspicious of a mage and I fully expect him to be. But I'm possitively giddy at the thought of him falling for a mage and loving them for everything they are. Even that magical part of them.

 

For the record, my first Inquisitor is going to be a mage who will be gunning for Cullen and the first world-state I'm importing is going to have these previous romances: Amell/Alistair and Mage!Hawke/Fenris. :lol:

 

Perhaps he won't be adverse to romancing a Mage Inquisitor because at least he could silently keep an eye on things if he feels like there's a possibility that she/he could turn into an abomination, LOL! Maybe it could even be beneficial for him because being a Templar/ex-templar at least he could always ensure that his loved one is safe, if a demon comes near he can just smite the bugger! 



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May I also request this? I tried to enter and it gave me the "you must be invited" message. Secondary question, do you think this thread or that one will be more spoilerfull?

mee too ??? : 3



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Haha! He'd have to put up with her telling him that "Magic is not a toy!" fifty times a day, though.  :lol:

I'm sorry this made me guffaw and think about Anders and the electricity thing. Ahem. Sorry. Nothing to see here. :D
 
 

So, I literally just spent two hours typing up a huge response to someone in MD's comment section on her Cameron Lee interview just to answer why "girls" love Cullen so much (AGAIN!)
 
The guy was kinda rude with the whole "girls only like him because... but I find that stupid because.... he's a minor character and I hate Templars blah blah blah". I literally only responded because he said "I'm kinda scared that AbilityDrain will come in here and hand my arse to me, I know she's a huge Cullen fan!"
 
Couldn't resist, LOL!  :lol:

LOL Why resist? That right there is a moral imperative.
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Mmmmh, that his love for a mage inquisitor makes him question the mages condition, or question his own position as a templar (provided he still is a templar of some sort and wishes to rebuild the order) , I'm perfectly ok with that. But to imagine templars and mages living happy in the Circle, making babies together, and all, that sounds too romantic and too "happy end" for me. :)
For me a templar + mage romance has to be a bit dramatic. And their relationship can only exist to the price of personal sacrifices.

Nah, I don't think we will get a Disney happy ending. I'm just curious how far Cullen would go if he had the power to change something, or was a part of that power. Maybe he would think, "Hey, since we are changing the rules, let's add somewhere a line that if a mage lives with a templar outside of the Circle, then she's not an apostate?" Or maybe he would think, "Hell no, I'm not going back into that system, I'm staying with the Inquisition and my love!" Maybe he would look for a compromise between what Tevinters do, and what the Andrastian Chantry had been doing regarding the mages. Or maybe the sky will break and all magic will return, all of it, and Cullen will have magic too, and the Circle will become pointless. :)
Speaking of Cullen and magic, I don't remember that he ever really feared or resented it. I think he supports the idea that as long as magic serves men, it's ok. So maybe he would like to learn some spells if he could? :)

BTW, if our companions have the same specs we do, like in DAO, who will pick what? I think Vivienne is totally a Knight-Enchanter, because she's wearing a breastplate. Maybe Solas is a Necromancer, and Dorian is a Rift mage? The Bull is a Reader, Cassandra must be a Templar, and Blackwall must be a Champion. No idea about the rogues though.
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I get the distinct impression that Dorian will be the fan favourite out of the male romances (presuming that he is one, of course).

 

I'd like him to be bi because I doubt I'll play a male Inquisitor at any point, and he's attractive and the little information we have right now makes him sound like a good person without being a stick in the mud, which is also attractive. But part of me also really wants him to be the gay romance strictly for that reason: because he seems to be such an early favorite at this point. Then the straight ladies and the gay men would be even after Alistair.

 

Hey, I thought of something today.

Let's assume Cullen wants to restore the Circle (because we know he does/says something that will make us either love him or hate him, and Circle is one of those divisive things). He probably wants it reformed, because he saw that it doesn't work the way it should. Now imagine that the Inquisitor is a mage, and Cullen falls in love with her/him. The was no place for such relationship in the Circle system before! So maybe Cullen's relationship with mage!Quisitor will make him consider pushing the reforms even further than he originally intended? Like, to allow mages and templars to have families, even with each other. What if Cullen's love for mage!Quisitor will make him fight for that? It may actually change the outcome of the game! Or at least of some quests. :) It may change the way Cullen thinks about how the world should be!

 

I don't think it's too far fetched! The prevailing fan opinion in my time reading the BSN seems to be that the circle is a good idea but should allow more contact with the outside world and normal human relationships, and if it seems logical to us in real life I have no idea why this solution wouldn't eventually be arrived at in-game. (Also, it's weird, because I don't like babies etc. at all in reality, but for what I assume are headcanon reasons from reading too much fanfiction, I'll be a little disappointed if Cullen isn't the kind of guy who wants to start a family, like Garrus.)

 

If I decide to play mage, this would be an interesting conquest for sure. :D But what would be more interesting for me is that the game makes this relationship very hard to  keep... That there's strong possibilities that Cullen decides to leave the mage at some point of the game, or at the end...

 

Blergh. When Alistair dumped my Amell for being a mage, it was high drama and I was totally wrecked for my mage but also exhilarated IRL by the storytelling. But if they did the exact same thing again I'd be disgusted both in game and as myself.



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Hey, I thought of something today.
Let's assume Cullen wants to restore the Circle (because we know he does/says something that will make us either love him or hate him, and Circle is one of those divisive things). He probably wants it reformed, because he saw that it doesn't work the way it should. Now imagine that the Inquisitor is a mage, and Cullen falls in love with her/him. The was no place for such relationship in the Circle system before! So maybe Cullen's relationship with mage!Quisitor will make him consider pushing the reforms even further than he originally intended? Like, to allow mages and templars to have families, even with each other. What if Cullen's love for mage!Quisitor will make him fight for that? It may actually change the outcome of the game! Or at least of some quests. :) It may change the way Cullen thinks about how the world should be!


You know... I agree that Cullen will probably always be pro-Circle in some form, meaning that I'd expect him to always think there should be a systemic approach to protecting the public and the mages from the dangers of magic. As far as how his mage relationship would impact this...? I honestly see him being a rule follower, and the problem with dating a mage is that it's fraternization. That he'd be in an inappropriate position of authority over her/him. But if he continued as part of the Inquisition, and so was not technically a templar in the Circle overseeing the mage!Inquisitor, I'd like to think he wouldn't have a problem with it.

This is also why I think he might have the reverse problem: dating his superior in the Inquisitor.

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Perhaps he won't be adverse to romancing a Mage Inquisitor because at least he could silently keep an eye on things if he feels like there's a possibility that she/he could turn into an abomination, LOL! Maybe it could even be beneficial for him because being a Templar/ex-templar at least he could always ensure that his loved one is safe, if a demon comes near he can just smite the bugger! 

 

Mage!Quizzy: ...Cullen?

Cullen: Yes, Love?

Mage!Quizzy: Are... are you staring at my ass?

Cullen: As a templar, it is my duty to watch you at all times. It was never specified which parts of you needed to be watched. ;)

 

 

:lol: All joking aside, I'm ALMOST hoping for some unexpected and possibly heartbreaking twists and turns. I was devastated when Alistair broke up with my mage the first time. But I eventually made peace with the situation and found a way around it!


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Perhaps he won't be adverse to romancing a Mage Inquisitor because at least he could silently keep an eye on things if he feels like there's a possibility that she/he could turn into an abomination, LOL! Maybe it could even be beneficial for him because being a Templar/ex-templar at least he could always ensure that his loved one is safe, if a demon comes near he can just smite the bugger! 

I'm not going to lie, I read this, decided I liked 'smite' as a potential innuendo and now I've spent ten minutes trying to make as many inappropriate 'smiting' sentences as I can. I'm so easily amused :lol:


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Lol. All I had to do was click on 'My Groups'  :lol:

 

It says that it's pending approval.  :crying:



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Lol. All I had to do was click on 'My Groups'  :lol:

 

It says that it's pending approval.  :crying:

 

Nothings showing up in there. Meh, I'll figure out what I've done to it, lol.



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I love the idea of romancing Cullen with a mage because I KNOW there will be friction there. I want it to be a major stumbling block, but one we can overcome.

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For the record, my first Inquisitor is going to be a mage who will be gunning for Cullen and the first world-state I'm importing is going to have these previous romances: Amell/Alistair and Mage!Hawke/Fenris. :lol:

 

On the one had, I feel like, maybe I shouldn't play a mage because my (I'm pretty sure) cannon Warden and Hawke are both mages, but on the other hand I feel compelled to play a mage because Cullen is friggin' romanceable and it's just gonna add that extra layer to his story. Would he really end up rejecting a mage inquisitor? I don't know, but I am definitely gonna have fun finding out  : D


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I don't think it's too far fetched! The prevailing fan opinion in my time reading the BSN seems to be that the circle is a good idea but should allow more contact with the outside world and normal human relationships, and if it seems logical to us in real life I have no idea why this solution wouldn't eventually be arrived at in-game. (Also, it's weird, because I don't like babies etc. at all in reality, but for what I assume are headcanon reasons from reading too much fanfiction, I'll be a little disappointed if Cullen isn't the kind of guy who wants to start a family, like Garrus.)

 

I read this, and now all I can think of is Mage!Quizzy and Cullen and all of their little mage spawn running around.

The thought of Daddy!Cullen makes me happy. ^_^

 

I don't think we'll EVER see that in-game, but it makes for fun thought-food. What would Cullen be like as the father of one or more mages?



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I read this, and now all I can think of is Mage!Quizzy and Cullen and all of their little mage spawn running around.

The thought of Daddy!Cullen makes me happy. ^_^

 

I don't think we'll EVER see that in-game, but it makes for fun thought-food. What would Cullen be like as the father of one or more mages?

Ask Gala :D 

 

Gala has a fab comic with F!Amellx Cullen :)


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I read this, and now all I can think of is Mage!Quizzy and Cullen and all of their little mage spawn running around.

The thought of Daddy!Cullen makes me happy. ^_^

 

I don't think we'll EVER see that in-game, but it makes for fun thought-food. What would Cullen be like as the father of one or more mages?

 

I imagine there might, at least, be a mention of kids depending on the LI? Garrus talked about kids (with the option to say whether you were for the idea or weren't) and even Anders brings up kids to a female PC. 

 

...Without the option to agree or disagree with him. I love Anders, but does it make me a bad person that I chose him for my canon boy's LI because of how potentially unhealthy the relationship seems for Hawke? (I'm not kidding when I said I just wanted to make things as hard for him as possible.)  :lol:


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Ask Gala :D

 

Gala has a fab comic with F!Amellx Cullen :)

 

Where is this!

I NEED IT I NEED IT NOW!

 

*grabby hands*



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On the one had, I feel like, maybe I shouldn't play a mage because my (I'm pretty sure) cannon Warden and Hawke are both mages, but on the other hand I feel compelled to play a mage because Cullen is friggin' romanceable and it's just gonna add that extra layer to his story. Would he really end up rejecting a mage inquisitor? I don't know, but I am definitely gonna have fun finding out  : D

 

That's exactly my problem too! Both my Warden and Hawke are mages, but it wasn't intentional... I would have been a rogue if Carver could have lived under any other class. Once again I'll be a mage (at least the first time) because of Cullen and the fact that the devs said half way through the game if you're a mage something big happens that adds to the story if you play as one, or something.



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That's exactly my problem too! Both my Warden and Hawke are mages, but it wasn't intentional... I would have been a rogue if Carver could have lived under any other class. Once again I'll be a mage (at least the first time) because of Cullen and the fact that the devs said half way through the game if you're a mage something big happens that adds to the story if you play as one, or something.

 

I face that same problem. I went with my mage Warden as my canon just for the Amell reference and the amusing idea of the cousins meeting, and then my Hawke was a mage because alive!Carver makes me happy and it just seemed right for the story... and who knows! My canon Inquisitor could turn out to be a mage playthrough depending on the story. 



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Blergh. When Alistair dumped my Amell for being a mage, it was high drama and I was totally wrecked for my mage but also exhilarated IRL by the storytelling. But if they did the exact same thing again I'd be disgusted both in game and as myself.

I'd be disappointed if every romances ended well no matter what. 

 

If my Cullen leaves my Inquisitor for some reason, I would be sad, but I would reload and make other choices to keep him.

 

If reloading doesn't help, because BioWare chose to be very cruel with us or I don't WANT my Inquisitor to make the choices necessary to keep him, I'd draw lots of loving Cullen to cheer me up. :lol:


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I suspect we can stop the Mage/Templar war itself, at least for the time being, but the fighting will continue for as long as the Templars still exist. I'm not even sure what the mages will do once free? I'm concern that they'll all go a bit wild for and create havoc just because they've been locked up for so long, lol.

My major concern in finishing the war is how far different the outcomes of supporting mages, templars or a compromise might be from each other. How it'll work with the save import?
I can see we ending the war in the Hinterlands, but not the was a whole, in all honesty.

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I'd be disappointed if every romances ended well no matter what. 

 

If my Cullen leaves my Inquisitor for some reason, I would be sad, but I would reload and make other choices to keep him.

 

If reloading doesn't help, because BioWare chose to be very cruel with us or I don't WANT my Inquisitor to make the choices necessary to keep him, I'd draw lots of loving Cullen to cheer me up. :lol:

 

My first Origins playthrough ended with Zevran betraying my Warden, my Warden being dumped by Alistair and then she died. It was glorious. And gave me reason to immediately start a new game and try for something more pleasant.  :lol:


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I imagine there might, at least, be a mention of kids depending on the LI? Garrus talked about kids (with the option to say whether you were for the idea or weren't) and even Anders brings up kids to a female PC. 

 

...Without the option to agree or disagree with him. I love Anders, but does it make me a bad person that I chose him for my canon boy's LI because of how potentially unhealthy the relationship seems for Hawke? (I'm not kidding when I said I just wanted to make things as hard for him as possible.)  :lol:

 

If you're a bad person, then I'm right there with you!

 

I have two favorite world-states currently. The one that I previously mentioned (with the mage protags romancing templars/mage haters) and my planned "Inquisition Countdown Marathon" playthrough. In it, I'm going to make my Hawke romance Anders. Don't get me wrong, I actually LIKE Anders/Justice as a character even if I don't agree with everything he does.

 

In that particular world-state, my Cousland-Theirin's happy ending (about as happy an ending as you can get with DA) is going to be followed up by Hawke's tragic love story. I'm going to put the poor woman through a meat grinder. :devil: Not that I really need to do much... The story pretty much chews up and spits out EVERY Hawke. I'm just going to help it along...


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