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[LolaLei]

My major concern in finishing the war is how far different the outcomes of supporting mages, templars or a compromise might be from each other. How it'll work with the save import?
I can see we ending the war in the Hinterlands, but not the was a whole, in all honesty.

 

Yeah, I reckon at best we'll be able to get them to stop fighting whilst this fade breach is the ultimate threat. Then again, in the games description it says that someone had been pulling the strings behind the scenes causing chaos, so who knows who/what's been nesting in each factions ears causing paranoia and encouraging trouble. 

[Narcia_]

That's exactly my problem too! Both my Warden and Hawke are mages, but it wasn't intentional... I would have been a rogue if Carver could have lived under any other class. Once again I'll be a mage (at least the first time) because of Cullen and the fact that the devs said half way through the game if you're a mage something big happens that adds to the story if you play as one, or something.

 

Yup, this is pretty much exactly what happened to me. I thought Carver had more growth as a character than Bethany (sorry Beth fans). I just felt that my male mage Hawke fit the best, if that makes sense. I certainly didn't plan it out that way. lol  Super excited to hear that my class choice will affect the game in a big way though XD

[Dirgegun]

If you're a bad person, then I'm right there with you!

 

I have two favorite world-states currently. The one that I previously mentioned (with the mage protags romancing templars/mage haters) and my planned "Inquisition Countdown Marathon" playthrough. In it, I'm going to make my Hawke romance Anders. Don't get me wrong, I actually LIKE Anders/Justice as a character even if I don't agree with everything he does.

 

In that particular world-state, my Cousland-Theirin's happy ending (about as happy and ending as you can get with DA) is going to be followed up by Hawke's tragic love story. I'm going to put the poor woman through a meat grinder. Not that I really need to do much... The story pretty much chews up and spits out EVERY Hawke. I'm just going to help it along...

 

That is basically my canon game! My Warden pretty much rocked the role she was thrust into, her poor cousin? He has his possessed-Warden boyfriend and Warden brother, and that's about it. And I like to imagine Carver REALLY doesn't like his brother's relationship with Anders because my Hawke is pretty damn accommodating and it has the potential to be such an unhealthy relationship for him. 

 

I like Anders and his character, mind! But there's no denying that there's definitely potential for a not-okay relationship there...

 

I like torturing my characters, evidently. Particularly my boys. It's so common to see the males as infallible heroes that I like putting my poor boys through the wringer.

[LolaLei]

Something I've always wondered is if you don't romance Anders (or kill him) and kept him as a friend will he pop up in DAI dating that Adrian chick from the Asunder novel, because I could seriously see those two getting on like a house on fire! 

[Owlfruit Potion]

I'd be disappointed if every romances ended well no matter what. 
 
If my Cullen leaves my Inquisitor for some reason, I would be sad, but I would reload and make other choices to keep him.
 
If reloading doesn't help, because BioWare chose to be very cruel with us or I don't WANT my Inquisitor to make the choices necessary to keep him, I'd draw lots of loving Cullen to cheer me up.

Haha, maybe that's the difference between us--I haven't had one end happily yet, unless you count the possibility that (ME spoilers in case anyone here still hasn't played)

Spoiler

Shepard gets rescued after Destroy and they fix the mass relays in time for her and Kaidan to see each other again before dying,

so for me a happy ending would be the refreshing change of pace and a sad ending would be the cliche.  Although of course i hope there's loads of horrible, wrenching drama before reaching that happy ending.
 
Part of me wants to re-play the last 80% of DAO so that Alistair stays a warden (stupid Hardening quest, happening so early; at that point I thought for sure Loghain would end up King if Alistair didn't, Anora didn't even occur to me), especially since I can no longer headcanon that Amell wound up with Cullen, but (A) I'm worried we won't see Alistair in DAI unless he's the king and (B) I totally lose my suspension of disbelief when I do anything a second time, so if I do that in the back of my head I'll still be thinking "no, you aren't Wardens together happy and in love, he's the king and you're a mistress who feels like he's ashamed of you and won't ever really trust him again!" And for that reason I won't be able to go back and reload any major Cullen-romance-killing decisions either, so drama ahoy whether Cullen will date a mage or not. (I still don't believe Bioware will do that to us, though. Ugh.)

[Char]

Where is this!

I NEED IT I NEED IT NOW!

 

*grabby hands*

 

http://galagraphia.deviantart.com/

 

In here amongst a whole host of awesome art

[LolaLei]

Haha, maybe that's the difference between us--I haven't had one end happily yet, unless you count the possibility that (ME spoilers in case anyone here still hasn't played)

Spoiler

Shepard gets rescued after Destroy and they fix the mass relays in time for her and Kaidan to see each other again before dying,

so for me a happy ending would be the refreshing change of pace and a sad ending would be the cliche.  Although of course i hope there's loads of horrible, wrenching drama before reaching that happy ending.

 

Part of me wants to re-play the last 80% of DAO so that Alistair stays a warden (stupid Hardening quest, happening so early; at that point I thought for sure Loghain would end up King if Alistair didn't, Anora didn't even occur to me), especially since I can no longer headcanon that Amell wound up with Cullen, but (a) I'm worried we won't see Alistair in DAI unless he's the king and ( I totally lose my suspension of disbelief when I do anything a second time, so if I do that in the back of my head I'll still be thinking "no, you aren't Wardens together happy and in love, he's the king and you're a mistress who feels like he's ashamed of you and won't ever really trust him again!" And for that reason I won't be able to go back and reload any major Cullen-romance-killing decisions either, so drama ahoy whether Cullen will date a mage or not. (I still don't believe Bioware will do that to us, though. Ugh.)

 

I totally never made him a King. The thought never even crossed my mind to do so during my first PT because he was so adamant that he didn't want to be one, that I was like: "ok, that's cool. We'll just let Anora have the throne" lol! So I had no idea that he'd dump a non-noble Warden if you made him a King until I saw people complaining about it! 

[Lady_Aescwyn]

That is basically my canon game! My Warden pretty much rocked the role she was thrust into, her poor cousin? He has his possessed-Warden boyfriend and Warden brother, and that's about it. And I like to imagine Carver REALLY doesn't like his brother's relationship with Anders because my Hawke is pretty damn accommodating and it has the potential to be such an unhealthy relationship for him. 

 

I like Anders and his character, mind! But there's no denying that there's definitely potential for a not-okay relationship there...

 

I like torturing my characters, evidently. Particularly my boys. It's so common to see the males as infallible heroes that I like putting my poor boys through the wringer.

 

It really is fun from a writing/story-building/game-playing perspective to put characters through hell and see what they become. Will they become stronger? Will they shatter? Will they do something completely unexpected and surprise you?

 

And on a side-note,

I love that nobody in here seems to hate Carver. I'm always afraid to say that I prefer his story over Bethany (note: I don't hate Behtany!). I love working for a friendship with Carver even though I know I can never max it out.

 

...and now it's off to work. You folks have fun!

[Narcia_]

Something I've always wondered is if you don't romance Anders (or kill him) and kept him as a friend will he pop up in DAI dating that Adrian chick from the Asunder novel, because I could seriously see those two getting on like a house on fire! 

 

I laughed, then I shuddered. Funny but scary.

[LolaLei]

I laughed, then I shuddered. Funny but scary.

 

They'd be a force to be reckoned with!

[Char]

I totally never made him a King. The thought never even crossed my mind to do so during my first PT because he was so adamant that he didn't want to be one, that I was like: "ok, that's cool. We'll just let Anora have the throne" lol! So I had no idea that he'd dump a non-noble Warden if you made him a King until I saw people complaining about it! 

My canon warden is a Fem!Cousland who was absolutely determined to restore her family to power no matter what. So she definitely married Alistair even if I did feel guilty about making him king becoming the Arlessa of Amaranthine was just the icing on the cake. I figure with Anora and Loghain out of the way Fergus/his descendents will be nicely in line for the future throne  

My canon Hawke is Fem!Mage!Hawke with Fenris  

Realistically I should play as a warrior to complete the set but I hate playing as a warrior :/

[Dirgegun]

It really is fun from a writing/story-building/game-playing perspective to put characters through hell and see what they become. Will they become stronger? Will they shatter? Will they do something completely unexpected and surprise you?

 

And on a side-note,

I love that nobody in here seems to hate Carver. I'm always afraid to say that I prefer his story over Bethany (note: I don't hate Behtany!). I love working for a friendship with Carver even though I know I can never max it out.

 

...and now it's off to work. You folks have fun!

 

I love Carver. ADORE HIM. He's definitely one of my favourite character... and one of the only character that really hits my personal list of likes. So, I might have sulked for just a little bit that he was the brother. Then I decided my Hawke and Carver would have the raddest bromance ever no matter how hard I had to work for it.  

 

Have a good day!

[Owlfruit Potion]

I totally never made him a King. The thought never even crossed my mind to do so during my first PT because he was so adamant that he didn't want to be one, that I was like: "ok, that's cool. We'll just let Anora have the throne" lol! So I had no idea that he'd dump a non-noble Warden if you made him a King until I saw people complaining about it! 

For me the "I don't want to be King" stuff seemed to come from a place of low self-esteem,* and since my Amell hated nobles and loved Ferelden it was a matter of both social justice and patriotism for her to want who she thought was the best, most compassionate person for the job. And she might have done it differently if she'd known early on that Anora was an option, but honestly she still seemed like a stuck-up jerk to me in-game, no different from any other upper crust character I can think of offhand except Teagan, even though metagame knowledge says otherwise. (I had no idea how Amell even knew she disliked aristocrats in my original headcanon, although after DA2 it's convenient to assume she was bitterly jealous because she'd been supposed to be one and probably remembered having ponies, mabari, etc. as a little kid until the Templars came for her).

 

* Not attacking your differing opinion here; that's just how I saw it and I definitely think it's open to interpretation

[LolaLei]

For me the "I don't want to be King" stuff seemed to come from a place of low self-esteem,* and since my Amell hated nobles and loved Ferelden it was a matter of both social justice and patriotism for her to want who she thought was the best, most compassionate person for the job. And she might have done it differently if she'd known early on that Anora was an option, but honestly she still seemed like a stuck-up jerk to me in-game, no different from any other upper crust character I can think of offhand except Teagan, even though metagame knowledge says otherwise. (I had no idea how Amell even knew she disliked aristocrats in my original headcanon, although after DA2 it's convenient to assume she was bitterly jealous because she'd been supposed to be one and probably remembered having ponies, mabari, etc. as a little kid until the Templars came for her).

 

* Not attacking your differing opinion here; that's just how I saw it and I definitely think it's open to interpretation

 

Admittedly, seeing/hearing about how his father and brother behaved I was definitely concerned that placing him in the role of King would go to his head when surrounded by ladies... couldn't be sure that being a cheating scumbag wasn't genetic!   That being said, if he was/is gonna cheat then he'd do it anyway, regardless of his rank and title, lol.

[LolaLei]

Also, I wasn't keen on my Warden being called his "old ball and chain" the one time I did import a Cousland who made him King, lol. He's much sweeter about the Warden if you keep him as one too. It's glitched, but he's supposed to say "this belongs/belonged to the love of my life" *hands Hawke a locket*.

[The Elder King]

Well, while he was never keen on taking the throne, if you talk to him during the Landsmeet as hardened you can see that he's not that willing to let Anora took complete control.
I think they'll make a good ruling couple for ferelden. They're both well loved, Anora is competent and Hardened Al is more willing to learn how to rule and to not let Anora do whatever she wants.
I'm interested to see how their relationship grew in this case.

[LolaLei]

Well, while he was never keen on taking the throne, if you talk to him during the Landsmeet as hardened you can see that he's not that willing to let Anora took complete control.
I think they'll make a good ruling couple for ferelden. They're both well loved, Anora is competent and Hardened Al is more willing to learn how to rule and to not let Anora do whatever she wants.

 

According to those comics, deep down he did want to rule (or so Varric speculates, which Alistair never denies). Tough luck Alistair, should have said so 10 years prior, LOL! 

[Char]

I love Carver. ADORE HIM. He's definitely one of my favourite character... and one of the only character that really hits my personal list of likes. So, I might have sulked for just a little bit that he was the brother. Then I decided my Hawke and Carver would have the raddest bromance ever no matter how hard I had to work for it.  

 

Have a good day!

My Hawke and Carver were an awesome team, I love him to bits, one of my favourite characters from DA2 along with, well, most of the cast I'm not so keen on Bethany or Merrill, they both seemed quite dependent on Hawke and that kind of thing irritates me. Plus if Merrill put on a lot of weight and gained an Essex accent and a tad more of a sarcastic sense of humour she'd be me but I know a lot of people liked them both a lot, and quite a few didn't like poor Carver just goes to show how different everyone is

[Dirgegun]

*sits in her Anora adoring corner* I feel so alone. 

[LolaLei]

My Hawke and Carver were an awesome team, I love him to bits, one of my favourite characters from DA2 along with, well, most of the cast I'm not so keen on Bethany or Merrill, they both seemed quite dependent on Hawke and that kind of thing irritates me. Plus if Merrill put on a lot of weight and gained an Essex accent and a tad more of a sarcastic sense of humour she'd be me but I know a lot of people liked them both a lot, and quite a few didn't like poor Carver just goes to show how different everyone is

 

I didn't dislike Bethany but she kinda reminded me of my cousin who I'm not entirely keen on... not that she's horrible or anything, but she's the golden child and my grandparents favourite, so the rest of us grandchildren never got a look in... I suspect some of my own deep seated resentment leaked into my playthrough. Well, that and Carver behaves a lot more like my own siblings, LOL!

[The Elder King]

Also, I wasn't keen on my Warden being called his "old ball and chain" the one time I did import a Cousland who made him King, lol. He's much sweeter about the Warden if you keep him as one too. It's glitched, but he's supposed to say "this belongs/belonged to the love of my life" *hands Hawke a locket*.

Well, I think he was making joke in the king case. The situation were a bit more...relaxed, I guess, then Act 2.

[serenai]

My first play through was as human noble - I didn't see the rejection of a non noble until my second play through. My son and I played the game at the same time, and we would compare notes and geek out over things. He romanced Morrigan and I saw a few of the conversations and it was really interesting to see that side of her.. and he watched a couple with Alistair and laughed at me while I blushed. I love the story line of Alistair's romance...

 

(is this considered a spoiler?)...which is why my son asked me one day if I'd gotten to the end yet and warned me I had some "feels coming up". I didn't do the DR and took Alistair with me up to Fort Drakon, all the while worried like mad about one of us dying but hoping like hell it wouldn't come to that. And then when he pushed my Warden aside I completely lost it - crying, hollering at the monitor.. omg I was a mess. I was so upset & then angry that i went on a search and found a mod that let me knock him out and do the US myself..then cried again at the look on Alistair's face as he cradled her dead body, and then again at her funeral.

 

Then I promptly started a second play through where I planned on doing the DR and avoiding all that heart break!

 

All I'm hoping for is the same twists and turns and tears and laughter, which I didn't get much of in DA 2. If the romances are even half as good as Alistair's then it should be awesome 

 

I liked both Bethany and Carver in their own way, but Bethany lived more times in my play throughs.

[LolaLei]

Well, I think he was making joke in the king case. The situation were a bit more...relaxed, I guess, then Act 2.

 

I haven't read the comic, so I don't know. I just heard second hand that it occurred in/after they came out of the Fade and Alistair had a dream that he and his father where out riding together and he was the Prince in place of Calian.

[The Elder King]

According to those comics, deep down he did want to rule (or so Varric speculates, which Alistair never denies). Tough luck Alistair, should have said so 10 years prior, LOL!

 
Yeah, I recall we discussed this.
Admittedly, I was thinking more about the well-being of Ferelden than his personal desire .  

*sits in her Anora adoring corner* I feel so alone. 

Hey, you're not alone! I love Anora. I just like them to rule together .

[Phate Phoenix]

Something I've always wondered is if you don't romance Anders (or kill him) and kept him as a friend will he pop up in DAI dating that Adrian chick from the Asunder novel, because I could seriously see those two getting on like a house on fire!

 
Ha! That'd be pretty awesome, actually. Adrian is pretty close to my canon Hawke, Essery, in personality, so it'd simply be confirming that yeah, Anders totally would have gone for Essery had she existed in this universe. [NODS]

 

It really is fun from a writing/story-building/game-playing perspective to put characters through hell and see what they become. Will they become stronger? Will they shatter? Will they do something completely unexpected and surprise you?
 
And on a side-note,
I love that nobody in here seems to hate Carver. I'm always afraid to say that I prefer his story over Bethany (note: I don't hate Behtany!). I love working for a friendship with Carver even though I know I can never max it out.

Carver is the best sibling! It sucks because I love to play rogues generally, but I found myself making more and more mage characters because of Carver. I mean, Bethany isn't a bad character or anything, I just love my little brother to bits.