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[alwayshungry]

[Chiantirose82]

 

So I guess, Lyrium addiction will be addressed. I wonder if it will only be red lyrium or if they go with both. 

[Xeyska]

*snip*

 

6:14 - Mark said lyrium addiction will be addressed during the course of the game.

7:40 - He talks about castle customization briefly. You can find different things to add to your keep like tapestries, beds, different thrones. Most of it is visual, but some of it can give different bonuses.

[Phate Phoenix]

Spoiler

 

Oh crap, they are gonna address Lyrium addiction. And I mean that in the best way. I fully expect to get sucker-punched in the feels. Oh, Cullen, you sad little man. Why do I gotta fall for you? (Why not Sera? She seems fun and not addicted to a substance that will eventually take her mind.)

[R2s Muse]

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Grumble. "We actually do have cases where the game reacts to your gender or to your race. It is important to do that because you need to have that for believable interaction in the world." Hmm, side eyeing gendered reactions... sounds like we're headed for more "Hey Sweetheart" scenarios.

[Potato Cat]

She's kinda weird. I don't know if she's played a DA game before, she just seems to ask strange questions and stumble into interesting little nuggets of information.

Base customisation sounds awesome! I'd thought it might have been scrapped. I wonder what kind of themes there are besides Chantry and Mage. I hope there's Qunari and Dalish themes!

[CuriousArtemis]

Grumble. "We actually do have cases where the game reacts to your gender or to your race. It is important to do that because you need to have that for believable interaction in the world." Hmm, side eyeing gendered reactions... sounds like we're headed for more "Hey Sweetheart" scenarios.

 

Ha! Don't ask me why I play as a dude... 

 

(Sigh. Because if you don't inject traditional sexism in a world, it's not realistic!)

[CuriousArtemis]

I heard there are actually quite a few "Hey Sweetheart" moments in ME if you play FemShep; it's put me off wanting to do a FemShep playthrough. NPCs I thought were kinda cool apparently hit on FemShep, ick.

[R2s Muse]

She's kinda weird. I don't know if she's played a DA game before, she just seems to ask strange questions and stumble into interesting little nuggets of information.

Base customisation sounds awesome! I'd thought it might have been scrapped. I wonder what kind of themes there are besides Chantry and Mage. I hope there's Qunari and Dalish themes!

LOL I actually kind of liked that she asked interesting questions about stuff we haven't already heard a thousand times. 

[Potato Cat]

LOL I actually kind of liked that she asked interesting questions about stuff we haven't already heard a thousand times.

It's just they seemed pretty random, and more in relation to other games. There were quite a few of games at this E3, particularly AC Unity, which didn't have female protagonists and the devs blamed it on being a lack of resources or a low priority or something, and it seemed more like a weird jab at them, rather than a genuine question for Mark. I kind of feel sorry for him, because you can tell that he's not expecting her questions, he's just wanting to give his stock interview answers.

[R2s Muse]

It's just they seemed pretty random, and more in relation to other games. There were quite a few of games at this E3, particularly AC Unity, which didn't have female protagonists and the devs blamed it on being a lack of resources or a low priority or something, and it seemed more like a weird jab at them, rather than a genuine question for Mark. I kind of feel sorry for him, because you can tell that he's not expecting her questions, he's just wanting to give his stock interview answers.

I actually found them more relevant for this very reason. We've heard the script about the demo. This was something new, and I thought Mark did great.

[Phate Phoenix]

I actually found them more relevant for this very reason. We've heard the script about the demo. This was something new, and I thought Mark did great.

 

I'll go as far as to say this was my favorite "professional" interview. Of the ones that I've seen, anyway.

[CuriousArtemis]

It's just they seemed pretty random, and more in relation to other games. There were quite a few of games at this E3, particularly AC Unity, which didn't have female protagonists and the devs blamed it on being a lack of resources or a low priority or something, and it seemed more like a weird jab at them, rather than a genuine question for Mark. I kind of feel sorry for him, because you can tell that he's not expecting her questions, he's just wanting to give his stock interview answers.

 

Yeah, agree with R2; I'm glad she asked those questions... it highlights why BW is so heads and shoulders above the other companies. It's also nice to see poor MD thrown off his game a bit He did well anyway, so no worries.

[CuriousArtemis]

I'll go as far as to say this was my favorite "professional" interview. Of the ones that I've seen, anyway.

 

Agree; nothing beats the "unprofessional" GamerMD

[MacyNell]

Oh crap, they are gonna address Lyrium addiction. And I mean that in the best way. I fully expect to get sucker-punched in the feels. Oh, Cullen, you sad little man. Why do I gotta fall for you? (Why not Sera? She seems fun and not addicted to a substance that will eventually take her mind.)

Hmmm.  I've wanted to explore lyrium addiction.  There are far too many things we don't know for me to even speculate which direction they'll be taking with this.  I think it's a general consensus that it's almost impossible to overcome for several reasons, and I can see that being likely.  I'm not completely sold on the idea that there are no circumstances under which it can be beat, tho.  It won't be easy, and it will not be without significant risk, but I think it's possible that we'll figure it out.  At least that's my hope.  I want to find out if it's possible to fix this....

[Phate Phoenix]

Hmmm.  I've wanted to explore lyrium addiction.  There are far too many things we don't know for me to even speculate which direction they'll be taking with this.  I think it's a general consensus that it's almost impossible to overcome for several reasons, and I can see that being likely.  I'm not completely sold on the idea that there are no circumstances under which it can be beat, tho.  It won't be easy, and it will not be without significant risk, but I think it's possible that we'll figure it out.  At least that's my hope.  I want to find out if it's possible to fix this....

 

I wonder if the lyrium plot is tied to Cullen, but not directly? Like, maybe he looking for a cure to lyrium addiction--not for himself, but for the poor souls addicted to red lyrium, who can't get out of the red templars because red lyrium is way, way worse that regular lyrium, and going off it like, kills you, or something.

 

It's not well fleshed out, I admit, but I think it has promise! 

[Potato Cat]

I actually found them more relevant for this very reason. We've heard the script about the demo. This was something new, and I thought Mark did great.

I'll go as far as to say this was my favorite "professional" interview. Of the ones that I've seen, anyway.

Yeah, agree with R2; I'm glad she asked those questions... it highlights why BW is so heads and shoulders above the other companies. It's also nice to see poor MD thrown off his game a bit He did well anyway, so no worries.

Oh don't get me wrong. I usually love Polygon for taking into account these issues as they often do, it just seemed somewhat unnecessary to me is all, considering Bioware's usually sterling reputation for stuff like this. When I hear of a Bioware game, I assume there's going to be a female protagonist option because they genuinely care. So I just think it's weird to ask a Bioware dev how they kind of justify the decision to have a female option. And yes, he did do well. If it was me, I'd say 'Because we're decent people'. And it's not that I disapprove of this middle finger to those games that should have the option, but don't, it just caught me off guard to have this in the interview is all.

Ah well, I'm incredibly tired. Bed time!

[CuriousArtemis]

Ah well, I'm incredibly tired. Bet time!

 

Man you Brits really ARE obsessed with gambling!

 

......

[MacyNell]

I wonder if the lyrium plot is tied to Cullen, but not directly? Like, maybe he looking for a cure to lyrium addiction--not for himself, but for the poor souls addicted to red lyrium, who can't get out of the red templars because red lyrium is way, way worse that regular lyrium, and going off it like, kills you, or something.

 

It's not well fleshed out, I admit, but I think it has promise! 

 

I honestly can't see how we're going to address this issue without Cullen being involved in some way.  Unless he's already found a way out for himself (which is doubtful), he is a lyrium addict.  In my opinion, it would be ignoring a golden opportunity to leave our resident Templar (or ex-Templar, whatever the case may be) out of it.  

[Phate Phoenix]

I honestly can't see how we're going to address this issue without Cullen being involved in some way.  Unless he's already found a way out for himself (which is doubtful) he is a lyrium addict.  In my opinion, it would be ignoring a golden opportunity to leave our resident Templar (or ex-Templar, whatever the case may be) out of it.  

 

Oh, I'm sure he'd be involved, but...

 

They way I'm picturing it, Cullen doesn't want to be cured. To be cured of lyrium addiction means he's not a templar, and unable to use his abilities. From what we've seen of Cullen, he's very loyal to the idea of the Templar Order, of its true ideal. I don't see Cullen actively looking to get himself off lyrium, but more for his brothers who were swayed to the Red Templars out of desperation--they needed lyrium, the Chantry wasn't supplying it, they weren't as good as Cullen himself in getting any--and now are stuck. Perhaps the quest ends with Cullen taking the magical cure himself (perhaps he must be persuaded to do so, which could have long-lasting impact on the game, and the romance).

 

I'm mostly trying to figure out circumstances that Cullen would actively try to get of the stuff. Because if you get off lyrium, why would you go back to it? Unless he's completely given up being a Templar (which is possible).

 

Oh, or maybe Cullen got addicted to the red lyrium out of desperation??? That could do the trick. 

[TreeHuggerHannah]

I'm in chat if anyone wants to hang out for a bit.

 

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#cullenites

[R2s Muse]

I wonder if the lyrium plot is tied to Cullen, but not directly? Like, maybe he looking for a cure to lyrium addiction--not for himself, but for the poor souls addicted to red lyrium, who can't get out of the red templars because red lyrium is way, way worse that regular lyrium, and going off it like, kills you, or something.

 

It's not well fleshed out, I admit, but I think it has promise! 

I love this idea. It would be a pretty logical question to ask once you see those poor Behemoth red templars with red lyrium literally growing out of their bodies: how can you help them? If you can come back from that, then lyrium addiction should be a cinch, no? 

 

Sounds like a plot bunny a'sniffin!

[VampOrchid]

Because we don't know if the Templars were forced into taking red lyrium or not. They could have been taking it without knowing what it would do to them and so on. What I want to know is who is responsible for getting them on it in the first place. I'm really excited to learn about Cullen's quest, and I'm more then certain it will have to do with the main plot that involves red lyrium.

[R2s Muse]

Oh don't get me wrong. I usually love Polygon for taking into account these issues as they often do, it just seemed somewhat unnecessary to me is all, considering Bioware's usually sterling reputation for stuff like this. When I hear of a Bioware game, I assume there's going to be a female protagonist option because they genuinely care. So I just think it's weird to ask a Bioware dev how they kind of justify the decision to have a female option. And yes, he did do well. If it was me, I'd say 'Because we're decent people'. And it's not that I disapprove of this middle finger to those games that should have the option, but don't, it just caught me off guard to have this in the interview is all.

Ah well, I'm incredibly tired. Bet time!

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think it's easy for us to take for granted that BW is awesome in this arena.

 

Sadly, I wonder if the interview seemed unusual because it was so unusual to have a woman interviewer... Every other discussion has glossed over or downplayed how important representation is. Or emphasized how the romances are "optional" content. This, like MD's charming interview, was a nice change of pace.

[R2s Muse]

Oh, I'm sure he'd be involved, but...

 

They way I'm picturing it, Cullen doesn't want to be cured. To be cured of lyrium addiction means he's not a templar, and unable to use his abilities. From what we've seen of Cullen, he's very loyal to the idea of the Templar Order, of its true ideal. I don't see Cullen actively looking to get himself off lyrium, but more for his brothers who were swayed to the Red Templars out of desperation--they needed lyrium, the Chantry wasn't supplying it, they weren't as good as Cullen himself in getting any--and now are stuck. Perhaps the quest ends with Cullen taking the magical cure himself (perhaps he must be persuaded to do so, which could have long-lasting impact on the game, and the romance).

 

I'm mostly trying to figure out circumstances that Cullen would actively try to get of the stuff. Because if you get off lyrium, why would you go back to it? Unless he's completely given up being a Templar (which is possible).

 

Oh, or maybe Cullen got addicted to the red lyrium out of desperation??? That could do the trick. 

I agree that I would expect lyrium to be closely linked to Cullen's templar identity, because indeed, without the lyrium he would lose his skills. That could be a really interesting story to explore (says the lady who's already been writing about it a little...), whether he would choose to lose his templar abilities if it meant living a longer, healthier life. In some sense, probably like asking a Grey Warden if they would give up the taint. In Cullen's case, I suppose I'd expect the answer to be no. But it might also depend on what the other circumstances are, and what might be gained by giving it all up.

 

On the red lyrium... that's the only really plausible scenario I could come up with for him to try it, would be out of necessity.