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[R2s Muse]

Because we don't know if the Templars were forced into taking red lyrium or not. They could have been taking it without knowing what it would do to them and so on. What I want to know is who is responsible for getting them on it in the first place. I'm really excited to learn about Cullen's quest, and I'm more then certain it will have to do with the main plot that involves red lyrium.

I could totally see the Powers That Be obscuring the possible side effects of the red lyrium. After all, it's supposed to give even common folk magical powers. I could see it like any kind of illicit drug, awesome at first until you realize the hold it has on you and the toll it renders on your body and sanity. 

[MacyNell]

Oh, I'm sure he'd be involved, but...

 

They way I'm picturing it, Cullen doesn't want to be cured. To be cured of lyrium addiction means he's not a templar, and unable to use his abilities. From what we've seen of Cullen, he's very loyal to the idea of the Templar Order, of its true ideal. I don't see Cullen actively looking to get himself off lyrium, but more for his brothers who were swayed to the Red Templars out of desperation--they needed lyrium, the Chantry wasn't supplying it, they weren't as good as Cullen himself in getting any--and now are stuck. Perhaps the quest ends with Cullen taking the magical cure himself (perhaps he must be persuaded to do so, which could have long-lasting impact on the game, and the romance).

 

I'm mostly trying to figure out circumstances that Cullen would actively try to get of the stuff. Because if you get off lyrium, why would you go back to it? Unless he's completely given up being a Templar (which is possible).

 

Oh, or maybe Cullen got addicted to the red lyrium out of desperation??? That could do the trick. 

 

I totally see your point, and it's most likely spot on.  He surely does indeed see it as a good thing, and probably doesn't want to change it.  Yet, it's also harming him.  We know about the effects.  That can't be a comfortable prospect, especially as he gets past the age where everyone sort of feels invincible, especially since the whole world is being ripped apart and the Templars could not have stopped it despite their powers.  I would not mind at all if he thought about his own future and well-being a little bit, or if he realized there is more than one way to serve the Maker and that duty can take more than one form.

 

Now that we're discussing it, it does seem fairly complicated.  Maybe it would be best to make it solely about the issue of red lyrium and leave it at that.  Hmmm.  I think I may have just changed my mind. 

[Phate Phoenix]

I totally see your point, and it's most likely spot on.  He surely does indeed see it as a good thing, and probably doesn't want to change it.  Yet, it's also harming him.  We know about the effects.  That can't be a comfortable prospect, especially as he gets past the age where everyone sort of feels invincible, especially since the whole world is being ripped apart and the Templars could not have stopped it despite their powers.  I would not mind at all if he thought about his own future and well-being a little bit, or if he realized there is more than one way to serve the Maker and that duty can take more than one form.

 

Now that we're discussing it, it does seem fairly complicated.  Maybe it would be best to make it solely about the issue of red lyrium and leave it at that.  Hmmm.  I think I may have just changed my mind. 

 

It's a really interesting thread to follow, because it's really hard to argue that Cullen should put his health first when there are demons pouring out of the sky and we've dragged him into the middle of it all again.

 

INQUISITOR: Just... just think of the future! You would have a full, healthy, sane life ahead of you!

CULLEN: Is that before or after the demons completely engulf all of Thedas?

INQUISITOR: Oh, don't be so smug.

 

I think they kind of have to touch on it, at least a little. It's not like with Anders and the Taint, nothing about Anders meant he had to bring that up, ever, with Hawke (which is a dickish thing to do, but, well, it's a carefully guarded secret so I get it). Cullen, however, would have to be taking lyrium on a regular basis. Maybe not once a week, but regularly to prevent withdrawal symptoms from kicking in. And an Inquisitor who romanced him would notice that. There has to be some kind of discussion. Whether that culminates into Cullen getting cured of his addiction or not, I don't know.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

7:40 - He talks about castle customization briefly. You can find different things to add to your keep like tapestries, beds, different thrones. Most of it is visual, but some of it can give different bonuses.

 

I'm looking forward to this way more than I should. It sounds like my Inquisitor may get to put in the prayer chapel she wants!

[Mrs_Stick]

I'm looking forward to this way more than I should. It sounds like my Inquisitor may get to put in the prayer chapel she wants!

Wait what we can go shopping!!!!! and redecorate the castles???? Well I know what my Inquisitor will be doing while everyone else is off fighting a war

Hope Cullen likes to shop cuz ya he would be dragged with me. 

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Wait what we can go shopping!!!!! and redecorate the castles???? Well I know what my Inquisitor will be doing while everyone else is off fighting a war

Hope Cullen likes to shop cuz ya he would be dragged with me. 

 

If you refer to looting as "shopping," then yes?

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I'm looking forward to this way more than I should. It sounds like my Inquisitor may get to put in the prayer chapel she wants!

 

Tehehehe I can't wait to customize my keep, do you think Cullen would be completely creeped out if I built a nursery onto his room (though I highly doubt that would be an option) 

[duckley]

Alistair indicated that he did not believe lyrium was needed for Templar abilities. If I recall Alistair thought that lyrium enhanced abilities. Alistair used his Templar skills without lyrium.
I think however there was some talk about the developers indicating that Alistairs assertions were wrong. Does anyone have the link?

I am not sure of the consequences of lyrium withdrawal, but obviously Cullen went without lyrium for days, weeks, or perhaps months when captured by Uldred. So I would thik that opens the door to the possibility that lyrium addiction can perhaps be beaten.

[BubbleDncr]

Oh man, I totally had forgotten about Cullen's lyrium addiction. I am now totally pumped about his storyline. 

 

Ugh, I have no idea who I'm gonna romance. 

[Panda]

Alistair indicated that he did not believe lyrium was needed for Templar abilities. If I recall Alistair thought that lyrium enhanced abilities. Alistair used his Templar skills without lyrium.
I think however there was some talk about the developers indicating that Alistairs assertions were wrong. Does anyone have the link?

I am not sure of the consequences of lyrium withdrawal, but obviously Cullen went without lyrium for days, weeks, or perhaps months when captured by Uldred. So I would thik that opens the door to the possibility that lyrium addiction can perhaps be beaten.

 

Gaider said in one interview that you are able to use templar abilities long time after giving up lyrium but you still have had to used it before. Also I think in the comics Alistair started to use lyrium again to regain his templar abilities

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Alistair indicated that he did not believe lyrium was needed for Templar abilities. If I recall Alistair thought that lyrium enhanced abilities. Alistair used his Templar skills without lyrium.
I think however there was some talk about the developers indicating that Alistairs assertions were wrong. Does anyone have the link?

I am not sure of the consequences of lyrium withdrawal, but obviously Cullen went without lyrium for days, weeks, or perhaps months when captured by Uldred. So I would thik that opens the door to the possibility that lyrium addiction can perhaps be beaten.

 

Cullen being captured in DAO is a good point, I had never thought of that before. It makes me wonder then, how long it takes for lyrium withdrawals to set in. Or maybe because he was quite young in DAO, he hadn't been taken lyrium long enough for him to be addicted to it. I'm not sure on the finer points of lyrium addiction, is it something that one becomes addicted to fairly quickly or over a period of time?

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Oh man, I totally had forgotten about Cullen's lyrium addiction. I am now totally pumped about his storyline. 

 

Ugh, I have no idea who I'm gonna romance. 

 

I've definitely got my sights on Cullen (of course  ), Sera and then Iron Bull if he is an LI. If IB isn't, then I'm not too sure who will be my Qunari Inquisitors LI. She may end up bro-romancing everyone instead 

[MamaThyia]

Hello Cullenites! I'm new to the forums and pretty new to DA, too. I've just played through Origins, Awakening and DA:2, and no matter what I play or watch I always end up totally intrigued by a minor character and end up obsessing. Hoping I'll fit in here, totally looking forward to DA:I and more Cullen.

Question... Is there a possibility that Cullen is no longer a Templar in Inquisition? His armour and outfits shown thus far aren't exactly Templar issue are they? Or maybe I just haven't seen enough pictures, or perhaps his look has simply been updated. We think he's the military advisor for the Inquisitor, correct? Anyhow, just something to ponder... Has it been discussed before maybe? Anyhow, happy to be here.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Hello Cullenites! I'm new to the forums and pretty new to DA, too. I've just played through Origins, Awakening and DA:2, and no matter what I play or watch I always end up totally intrigued by a minor character and end up obsessing. Hoping I'll fit in here, totally looking forward to DA:I and more Cullen.

Question... Is there a possibility that Cullen is no longer a Templar in Inquisition? His armour and outfits shown thus far aren't exactly Templar issue are they? Or maybe I just haven't seen enough pictures, or perhaps his look has simply been updated. We think he's the military advisor for the Inquisitor, correct? Anyhow, just something to ponder... Has it been discussed before maybe? Anyhow, happy to be here.

 

Welcome to the thread!

 

Yes, there is a distinct possibility he is no longer a templar, and his lack of insignia could point to that. (Although it also might just be because he's currently working primarily for the Inquisition.) We haven't had confirmation one way or the other, though.

[Panda]

Hello Cullenites! I'm new to the forums and pretty new to DA, too. I've just played through Origins, Awakening and DA:2, and no matter what I play or watch I always end up totally intrigued by a minor character and end up obsessing. Hoping I'll fit in here, totally looking forward to DA:I and more Cullen.

Question... Is there a possibility that Cullen is no longer a Templar in Inquisition? His armour and outfits shown thus far aren't exactly Templar issue are they? Or maybe I just haven't seen enough pictures, or perhaps his look has simply been updated. We think he's the military advisor for the Inquisitor, correct? Anyhow, just something to ponder... Has it been discussed before maybe? Anyhow, happy to be here.

 

My guess is that he's taking temporary leave from templars to work with Inquisitor. There is this DAI catchphrase: "Whatever we were before now we are the Inquisition" so that implies that Cullen isn't at the moment templar. Situation with templars is also quite complicate in the DAI, there is red templars, rebel templars and chantry-loyal ones. I'd imagine he'd want to rejoin templars after Inquisition has reached it goal

[Galagraphia]

1) Aww, somebody tell Mark two-handed weapons don't weight 30 pounds! They are at least 4-5 times lighter! And you don't fight slowly with them! Here's an example:

Spoiler

2) Addressing lyrium addiction may not mean what we think it means. Maybe they mean Red Templars, and how their lyrium addiction influenced the story, but not that our Cullen, Cassandra, and the templar!Inquisitor will have some kind of lyrium problem.

3) We decide who will rure Orlais? Cool, I love crowning the kings! Please tell me I can make Morrigan the general secretary and behead all the nobles.  This place needs a bloody revolution or two.

4) Mark Darrah is ten times better at talking than the guys who were interviewing him 

Overall I liked the interview, some new info here, yay! 

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Hello Cullenites! I'm new to the forums and pretty new to DA, too. I've just played through Origins, Awakening and DA:2, and no matter what I play or watch I always end up totally intrigued by a minor character and end up obsessing. Hoping I'll fit in here, totally looking forward to DA:I and more Cullen.

Question... Is there a possibility that Cullen is no longer a Templar in Inquisition? His armour and outfits shown thus far aren't exactly Templar issue are they? Or maybe I just haven't seen enough pictures, or perhaps his look has simply been updated. We think he's the military advisor for the Inquisitor, correct? Anyhow, just something to ponder... Has it been discussed before maybe? Anyhow, happy to be here.

 

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[CuriousArtemis]

Question... Is there a possibility that Cullen is no longer a Templar in Inquisition? 

 

My guess is that he's taking temporary leave from templars to work with Inquisitor. There is this DAI catchphrase: "Whatever we were before now we are the Inquisition" so that implies that Cullen isn't at the moment templar. 

 

Yes, this!! Just what I was going to say Do I think Cullen is still a templar? Honestly, I have no idea. I think the Order and what it stands for is very dear to him, but considering how splintered it has become, perhaps there is no longer a place for him there. But as Panda said, whatever any of the inquisition members were before -templar, apostate, thief, whatever- they are now part of the inquisition, and their current task is far more important than any petty political dispute.

[The Elder King]

Cullen being captured in DAO is a good point, I had never thought of that before. It makes me wonder then, how long it takes for lyrium withdrawals to set in. Or maybe because he was quite young in DAO, he hadn't been taken lyrium long enough for him to be addicted to it. I'm not sure on the finer points of lyrium addiction, is it something that one becomes addicted to fairly quickly or over a period of time?

According to Asunder, not much. A lyrium potion sustains you for around a week; afterwards, withdrawal starts kicking in.
Both Cullen's torture and Alistair apparently not use of lyrium are probably holes in the current lyrium addiction system. Though. It made Cullen even more impressive in DAO, since he theorically resisted demons during withdrawal (but it was something J was expecting).
As for Cullen being a templars, as R2Muse said it seems templars do t a be their insignia in the armour. Though I think Cullen remained loyal to the Chantry.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

It's also possible that the longer a templar takes lyrium, the more he/she needs to take it to experience the same effects. It might be that as a young templar who hadn't been taking lyrium for long, Cullen was better able to do without it. After many more years taking it, he may have become more dependent.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

According to Asunder, not much. A lyrium potion sustains you for around a week; afterwards, withdrawal starts kicking in.
Both Cullen's torture and Alistair apparently not use of lyrium are probably holes in the current lyrium addiction system. Though. It made Cullen even more impressive in DAO, since he theorically resisted demons during withdrawal (but it was something J was expecting).
As for Cullen being a templars, as R2Muse said it seems templars do t a be their insignia in the armour. Though I think Cullen remained loyal to the Chantry.

 

Yeah I was just thinking I see him as an even stronger character now, when I think about him going through lyrium withdrawals while being tortured and tempted by demons. The fact that he resisted shows a lot about his character, not that I didn't have a strong sense of respect for him previously.

 

And I agree, I think Cullen would be a Chantry loyal Templar who has teamed up with the Inquisition after what ever takes place at the beginning of the game, maybe has even be working along side the Divine since the bulk of the Templar's defected form the Chantry........ Is defected the right word????? 

[The Elder King]

It's also possible that the longer a templar takes lyrium, the more he/she needs to take it to experience the same effects. It might be that as a young templar who hadn't been taking lyrium for long, Cullen was better able to do without it. After many more years taking it, he may have become more dependent.

From Asunder, it is heavily hinted that it's the same for every templars.
@Boom: yes, defected would be the right word.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

It's also possible that the longer a templar takes lyrium, the more he/she needs to take it to experience the same effects. It might be that as a young templar who hadn't been taking lyrium for long, Cullen was better able to do without it. After many more years taking it, he may have become more dependent.

 

Yeah I could see that happening, the body becoming accustomed to a the lyrium so the user would have to take a stronger dosage. Now I can't get this image out of my head of an older Cullen ailed and suffering heavily form the effects of lyrium (like the templar outside the Denerim Chantry in DAO). That makes me feel a little sad    

[TreeHuggerHannah]

This post from Allan may be of interest to people wanting to romance Cullen with a mage character:

 

http://forum.bioware...8#entry16762150 (all the way at the bottom, after the race-related stuff)

 

It's a slightly mixed message when it comes to mages and it's not definitive, but overall it seems like a positive sign.

 

 

Class restriction is something that could be considered as well, though to my knowledge we don't.  If we did, it'd probably only apply to mages since mages are very, very different than anything we have in reality.  There's no comparison.

 

Emphasis mine.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

From Asunder, it is heavily hinted that it's the same for every templars.

 

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I thought the context was that Evangeline was telling Rhys why she couldn't go with him, so she was talking about her own lyrium needs specifically? Was there another passage too that was more general?