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[GiggleLam]

He was a templar. Aveline was a soilder at Dales End when the group heard of templars in trouble. She ran to help and met Ser Wesley. 

http://dragonage.wik...e_(short_story)

Ok, back to lurking. 

[GiggleLam]

You are right. I just looked it up as well. Guess its the fact Wesley and Aveline are the only 2 married that I can remember.

Yeah the whole Templars can or can't get married thing is confusing. @_@

[Galagraphia]

I hope they just don't address his romantic past. At all. Whether he's had experience or not. The fewer words of his finite romance budget he spends talking about previous relationships, the better, and the less he invites comparison to Alistair the better.

^ this! I think it would make everyone happy And let BioWare spend more money on making content related to Cullen romancing the Inquisitor, not Cullen romancing somebody else. 

 

 

Yup, I'm pretty sure they're just not supposed to have relationships as recruits, or with the mages they guard. It's a bit like the guard/prisoner taboo. Falling in love with someone who you are supposed to be ready to kill at a moments notice is a biiiig problem, but SO romantic

I think it's not forbidden, but also not encouraged. Templars are a religious order with strict rules and discipline, and I think they spend most of their time doing templary business, even when they are off-duty, which makes them more busy than average guardsmen. I think it would be really difficult for a templar to maintain a serious relationship with somebody. And Cullen doesn't seem like a one night stand type. And in addition to that it looks like he was loaded with work in Kirkwall, and barely had any time to sleep. So I don't think he had any significant relationships, worth mentioning to the Inquisitor

[Char]

He was a templar. Aveline was a soilder at Dales End when the group heard of templars in trouble. She ran to help and met Ser Wesley. 

http://dragonage.wik...e_(short_story)

Ok, back to lurking. 

Less lurking, more chatting! I think I need a grabby hook to pull people into the thread

 

[LolaLei]

^ this! I think it would make everyone happy And let BioWare spend more money on making content related to Cullen romancing the Inquisitor, not Cullen romancing somebody else.


I think it's not forbidden, but also not encouraged. Templars are a religious order with strict rules and discipline, and I think they spend most of their time doing templary business, even when they are off-duty, which makes them more busy than average guardsmen. I think it would be really difficult for a templar to maintain a serious relationship with somebody. And Cullen doesn't seem like a one night stand type. And in addition to that it looks like he was loaded with work in Kirkwall, and barely had any time to sleep. So I don't think he had any significant relationships, worth mentioning to the Inquisitor

I know they're definitely not supposed to get involved with the circle mages. I don't think they're supposed to get involved with any mages at all, since if they saw an apostate then they'd need to bring them in to the circle lol. Of course, he's not a Templar anymore and our Inquisitor is in charge, so if we play as a Mage then technically he's not breaking any rules by romancing her/him.

[Lord Llamacorn]

Yeah speaking of the whole templars and romance thing in general, I was always a bit confused about that. Sometimes it seems like it's something they can't do, especially for those raised in the chantry and stuff. 

 

So the whole Wilmod and Keran quest about them visiting the blooming rose, was that something that was allowed or against templar protocol? I always thought it was the latter since Cullen said the bloming rose was afraid of getting shut down for serving the recruits. So...maybe just recruits aren't allowed to do the do? Because then again Aveline and Wesley were together. 

 

/scratches head.

[Lorien19]

I don't think my quizies would care about his love life...Me on the other hand as the spectator/player,I want to "unveil" as many mysteries as possible about him and generally know every available info,so I'd ask.Besides I don't think that I'll be able to resist clicking every available option in his dialogue wheel anyway.

[Brian ofthe Dialogue Wheel]

Templars do not take a vow of chastity. And they *can* get married (I see Wesley was already mentioned), although it doesn't happen often. Whether or not Cullen had physical (and/or emotional) relationships with anyone would be apart from his faith in the Maker, and in the Order.

What about the templar in DAO who you can let run off with a desire demon because his vows forbade him from starting a family?

[Mrs_Stick]

Yeah speaking of the whole templars and romance thing in general, I was always a bit confused about that. Sometimes it seems like it's something they can't do, especially for those raised in the chantry and stuff. 
 
So the whole Wilmod and Keran quest about them visiting the blooming rose, was that something that was allowed or against templar protocol? I always thought it was the latter since Cullen said the bloming rose was afraid of getting shut down for serving the recruits. So...maybe just recruits aren't allowed to do the do? Because then again Aveline and Wesley were together. 
 
/scratches head.

I feel your confusion

[BFace]

From the wiki: 

 

Templars take vows upon knighthood, but these do not include a vow of chastity. Templars are nevertheless discouraged from marrying or raising children since it is impractical to live apart from ones' dependents. Such unions are occasionally permitted, provided that the templar's spouse has his or her own means of support, for example, owning land or a title.[4] A templar marrying another templar or a mage within the same Circle would be considered fraternization within the ranks and would seldom receive permission.

[Galagraphia]

Yeah the whole Templars can or can't get married thing is confusing. @_@

David Gaider said they can marry, if they want it very-very much, but it would be a difficult marriage, because the templar would always be away doing his job, and the wife would be alone. I guess it would make sense if, for example, the templar is the second son, and his older brother dies, and he suddenly becomes an heir to a land/title. Then he would have to marry, make his wife pregnant, and proceed with hunting the apostates. Honestly, I don't think it would be a very good marriage. It worked for Aveline and Wesley, because they both were focused on the career very much, and were 2 independent grown up people who just decided to marry because of reasons

[Char]

Yeah speaking of the whole templars and romance thing in general, I was always a bit confused about that. Sometimes it seems like it's something they can't do, especially for those raised in the chantry and stuff. 

 

So the whole Wilmod and Keran quest about them visiting the blooming rose, was that something that was allowed or against templar protocol? I always thought it was the latter since Cullen said the bloming rose was afraid of getting shut down for serving the recruits. So...maybe just recruits aren't allowed to do the do? Because then again Aveline and Wesley were together. 

 

/scratches head.

I assume that recruits were supposed to spend their time training and dedicating themselves to the order. Frequenting brothels doesn't look good for their dedication, nor for the image of the Order as a whole. It's probably much more acceptable for a templar to have a girlfriend/boyfriend than to be seen frequenting a place of ill-repute, particularly since they have become less respected over the years

[Brian ofthe Dialogue Wheel]

Maybe Templars stationed in the Tower or Gallows can't have relationships, because they'd have something an apostate, abomination, or blood mage could hold over them, maybe?

[BFace]

What about the templar in DAO who you can let run off with a desire demon because his vows forbade him from starting a family?

See my above post.  

 

I dont think they're exactly *forbidden*, but they *are* discouraged from starting a family.

[Brian ofthe Dialogue Wheel]

See my above post.

 

I dont think they're exactly *forbidden*, but they *are* discouraged from starting a family.

Then that guy is just pathetic, and shouldn't have been a templar in the first place.

[GiggleLam]

David Gaider said they can marry, if they want it very-very much, but it would be a difficult marriage, because the templar would always be away doing his job, and the wife would be alone. I guess it would make sense if, for example, the templar is the second son, and his older brother dies, and he suddenly becomes an heir to a land/title. Then he would have to marry, make his wife pregnant, and proceed with hunting the apostates. Honestly, I don't think it would be a very good marriage. It worked for Aveline and Wesley, because they both were focused on the career very much, and were 2 independent grown up people who just decided to marry because of reasons

Ah see that makes sense then. yay knowledge!

[Mrs_Stick]

Guess I never paid attention enough to the Templar order because I distrust them. Kinda want Cullen to have a view that will ease my mind....well that of the Mage Inquisitor.

[GiggleLam]

I left that Templar to his alternate reality in my last play through, to see what would happen. Nothing apparently lol If I remember correctly some of my party actually approved. Watch, that templar will come back to haunt me in DAI for letting him be happy

[LolaLei]

Yeah speaking of the whole templars and romance thing in general, I was always a bit confused about that. Sometimes it seems like it's something they can't do, especially for those raised in the chantry and stuff.

So the whole Wilmod and Keran quest about them visiting the blooming rose, was that something that was allowed or against templar protocol? I always thought it was the latter since Cullen said the bloming rose was afraid of getting shut down for serving the recruits. So...maybe just recruits aren't allowed to do the do? Because then again Aveline and Wesley were together.

/scratches head.

I got the impression that they probably weren't supposed to be visiting hookers, but that Cullen let it slide because he's good like that... and he doesn't like going in there to tell them not to serve his recruits... and probably isn't keen on bringing up the subject with his recruits themselves, LOL!

[Phate Phoenix]

I got the impression that they probably weren't supposed to be visiting hookers, but that Cullen let it slide because he's good like that... and he doesn't like going in there to tell them not to serve his recruits... and probably isn't keen on bringing up the subject with his recruits themselves, LOL!

 

I've always wondered if perhaps they let it slide, because otherwise the recruits will either go for one another (problematic) or with a mage (even worse). At least with a brothel, you know it can't get personal.

[LolaLei]

What about the templar in DAO who you can let run off with a desire demon because his vows forbade him from starting a family?

Does he/the desire demon say that his vows won't let him directly? I can't recall. Tbh, I think they were supposed to originally be celibate and then they retconned it.

[LolaLei]

I've always wondered if perhaps they let it slide, because otherwise the recruits will either go for one another (problematic) or with a mage (even worse). At least with a brothel, you know it can't get personal.

I bet that played a part in it too. Maker knows he himself can fall for a Mage so he probably thought it best to let them get their jollies elsewhere.

[Char]

I'm really hoping the romances don't require you to be nice to them from the start. My Inquisitor is going to be a mage with a self-insert personality and depending on what they tell us about our mage's background and whether they tell us right away that Cullen is/was a templar, when he shows up my most likely process is going to be

1. look at the TV and say "CULLEN! There you are!!!! Aoife Trevelyan almost definitely loves you but this is metagame knowledge and therefore inadmissible"

2. choose something really snide about the Circle to say to him on the dialogue wheel

I'm just hoping my inquisitor can be a shameless tease about anything and everything, and can make him so off guard he'll take half the game to work out whether or not she's joking about anything or all of it  I'd like it if there were different angles possible for the romance, I liked the friendship/rivalry in DA2 in that regard

[LolaLei]

I'm really hoping the romances don't require you to be nice to them from the start. My Inquisitor is going to be a mage with a self-insert personality and depending on what they tell us about our mage's background and whether they tell us right away that Cullen is/was a templar, when he shows up my most likely process is going to be
1. look at the TV and say "CULLEN! There you are!!!! Aoife Trevelyan almost definitely loves you but this is metagame knowledge and therefore inadmissible"
2. choose something really snide about the Circle to say to him on the dialogue wheel

Which is going to be hard. I'm probably going to have to save, reload the previous save, say the nicest thing they have, and then go back to the first save.

From what they were saying the relationships are also based on the actions you take in general. So, while they may not agree with an action your Inquisitor took, they can still like you as a person and visa versa... unless you do something really awful or are just rude to the constantly, lol!

[Reaverwind]

Maybe Templars stationed in the Tower or Gallows can't have relationships, because they'd have something an apostate, abomination, or blood mage could hold over them, maybe?

 

I rather suspect locale, the usual prohibition against fraternization in the ranks, as well as the prohibition against fraternization with the inmates had more to do with it.