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[Panda]

I think this is a great part of it. Which is funny, because I think a lot of us are pro-mage, or at least neutral.

 

I'm still baffled over what I am. Cause some people make it seems like you have to side with every mage and kill every templar to be promage. And that bombing buildings with people in them is good idea. Oh well, I guess I'm more in the neutral side. I don't think tranquility and keeping mages as prisoner in big building is good and I hope that will change in DA some point.. but I still like majority of templars and side with them from time to time.

[Hellion Rex]

It's still not accurate.

Oh, it isn't? I saw Ashe's tweet and thought it was completely fixed. I hadn't had a chance to re look at it yet. Good grief, they never do anything right.

[Phate Phoenix]

Lola, I believe she updated late last night that the Examiner has since published a new updated version.

 

 Naw, they've got the original article up there, but it's got two paragraphs marked "UPDATED" at the top and bottom. Same words, just disclaimered, basically.

[Hellion Rex]

The way you guys talk cracks me up sometimes! You're like "we've seen so many battles and walked so many battlefields. Nothing harms us anymore. We have risen above in our love of Cullen!"

 

Though with how much flak Cullen fans get, I'm not surprised that you've grown some thick skin!

We are warriors, rogues, and mages of the highest caliber. Nothing but the best is fit for our Lord and Savior, Cullen.

[renfrees]

Sometimes i think that the option to play mage should've been taken out of DAII, when they made TMW the central plot. For balance reasons.

[LolaLei]

Oh, it isn't? I saw Ashe's tweet and thought it was completely fixed. I hadn't had a chance to re look at it yet. Good grief, they never do anything right.

 

If you listen to that part of the video from PAX East what they're saying is definitely not what's in that Examiner article.

[Hellion Rex]

Sometimes i think that the option to play mage should've been taken out of DAII, when they made TMW the central plot. For balance reasons.

I think that wouldn't be good. There are a good portion of players (myself included) who started playing DA games BECAUSE of the mage option. There are no balance issues whatsoever.

[Phate Phoenix]

I'm still baffled over what I am. Cause some people make it seems like you have to side with every mage and kill every templar to be promage. And that bombing buildings with people in them is good idea. Oh well, I guess I'm more in the neutral side. I don't think tranquility and keeping mages as prisoner in big building is good and I hope that will change in DA some point.. but I still like majority of templars and side with them from time to time.

 

Exactly! My thoughts are that mages and mundanes need to be protected from each other, and thus templars have a very real and necessary job to do. Just get rid of the Chantry doctrine and you could probably make something work.

 

But, because I am a Cullen fan, I have to believe everything he says is true and good, and I am not allowed to disagree with him. Which makes it very hard to also be an Anders fan, and believe everything he says is a true and good, and never disagree with him either.

[RynJ]

I think that wouldn't be good. There are a good portion of players (myself included) who started playing DA games BECAUSE of the mage option. There are no balance issues whatsoever.

 

Also, can you imagine if they'd taken away MORE choice? After all of the rage when race choice disappeared?

[MacyNell]

I think this is a great part of it. Which is funny, because I think a lot of us are pro-mage, or at least neutral.

 

I'm pretty much "hard core" pro-mage and loving defender of Anders.  And a proud and happy Cullenite.  And I don't even feel the least bit conflicted.  Go figure. 

[renfrees]

I think that wouldn't be good. There are a good portion of players (myself included) who started playing DA games BECAUSE of the mage option. There are no balance issues whatsoever.

Balance plot-wise, if they wanted to display both sides equally.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

Sometimes i think that the option to play mage should've been taken out of DAII, when they made TMW the central plot. For balance reasons.

*gasps* playing a non-mage?

 

heresy

[RynJ]

Balance plot-wise, if they wanted to display both sides equally.

 

Eh I think DA2 was very much trying to throw that balance at us. Thus nearly every mage we ran into was terrible and our mage companion blew up a building. I thought it was too heavy-handed, honestly.

[xxKitRosalin]

I think it takes a special kind of person to find good qualities and appreciation for a minor character. Not saying that those who don't are bad in any way, but it's just a different type of person that searches for those minor, arguably insignificant, characters and enjoys them simply for how they are presented. Most people who are fans of these characters tend to have thick skins as they are already aware of the fact that these characters may not have a wide positive reception with the rest of the fanbase. Therefore, the reception that these fans give is that of a generous, humbled love, as opposed to a hardcore love.

 

That's just my opinion, anyways, from what I have seen in this forum as opposed to other forums. :3 

[RynJ]

I think it takes a special kind of person to find good qualities and appreciation for a minor character. Not saying that those who don't are bad in any way, but it's just a different type of person that searches for those minor, arguably insignificant, characters and enjoys them simply for how they are presented. Most people who are fans of these characters tend to have thick skins as they are already aware of the fact that these characters may not have a wide positive reception with the rest of the fanbase. Therefore, the reception that these fans give is that of a generous, humbled love, as opposed to a hardcore love.

 

That's just my opinion, anyways, from what I have seen in this forum as opposed to other forums. :3 

 

In my opinion, Cullen's interest comes not in what we already know but in his potential as a character. So to me, he's different than other minor characters. I've liked minor characters for being entertaining or compelling but I like Cullen because I know he has quite a bit of character growth possibilities. AND I know that we'll get to see those come to fruition at least to some extent, since he's in DAI.

[HurricaneGinger]

Exactly! My thoughts are that mages and mundanes need to be protected from each other, and thus templars have a very real and necessary job to do. Just get rid of the Chantry doctrine and you could probably make something work.

But, because I am a Cullen fan, I have to believe everything he says is true and good, and I am not allowed to disagree with him. Which makes it very hard to also be an Anders fan, and believe everything he says is a true and good, and never disagree with him either.

NEVER QUESTION CULLY!

Ugh...I think I threw up a little just typing that. D:

Anyway. I agree with your reasoning: the Templars are very necessary, but mages can't continue to be treated as they are.

[Sifr]

I was just questioning this on that other thread but I wanted to ask your opinions.

 

Why do you think people get so legitimately angry over the large amount of Cullen love? I was saying that I get not understanding a huge fanbase for a minor character but I've seen people get truly mad about it. Like, "how dare you appreciate a minor character!" That kind of mindset just makes me scratch my head so much.

 

I don't understand the hate at all, since some of Dragon Age's most memorable characters tend to be those with only a minor role, limited dialogue and nearly no impact on the story.

 

Wade and Herren, Denerim and Vigil's Keep's resident blacksmiths / bickering gay couple.

Dagna, the adorable Dwarven bookworm interested in magic.

Bodahn and Sandal, the Warden's merchant and Hawke's beleagured butler.

 

And even for a companion, who would have imagined Varric being so popular despite not being a love interest? Especially when you consider that aside from getting Hawke on the Deep Roads Expedition and indirectly being one of those responsible for everything that happens, Varric has actually very little impact on rest of the plot after Act 1? He's basically a minor major character, yet is probably one of the most popular characters in the series, much like Tali and Garrus became the breakout characters in Mass Effect, yet were basically extras in the first game.

 

It's a tad hypocritical of people to throw vitriol at Cullen for being no different than some of the other popular minor characters.

[xxKitRosalin]

In my opinion, Cullen's interest comes not in what we already know but in his potential as a character. So to me, he's different than other minor characters. I've liked minor characters for being entertaining or compelling but I like Cullen because I know he has quite a bit of character growth possibilities. AND I know that we'll get to see those come to fruition at least to some extent, since he's in DAI.

 

Yeah, sorry, I meant to add in how minor characters are capable of growing, but me being sick, I am having a very hard time expressing my sentences correctly. 

[RynJ]

Yeah, sorry, I meant to add in how minor characters are capable of growing, but me being sick, I am having a very hard time expressing my sentences correctly. 

 

Oh no you're not wrong! We all appreciate characters for different reasons. I'm just saying that's why Cullen interests me 

[renfrees]

The thing i remember the most from my interactions with Cullen - 

 

Cullen (to mage!Hawke): they are not people like me and you!

 

I cackled.

[Panda]

 

Wade and Herren, Denerim and Vigil's Keep's resident blacksmiths / bickering gay couple.

 

I was just while ago thinking how it'd be nice to have these two back. They are hilarious And I want dragonskin armor! XD

[xxKitRosalin]

Oh no you're not wrong! We all appreciate characters for different reasons. I'm just saying that's why Cullen interests me 

 

I know, but you brought up something I was attempting to put into words, but, I feel so sick right now that I didn't express that correctly. :3

 

EDIT: Aka brain farts and the like. Brain=nonfunctioning xD

[MacyNell]

I was just while ago thinking how it'd be nice to have these two back. They are hilarious And I want dragonskin armor! XD

 

From the way they describe the dragons in this game, I think we're gonna need it.  Wade was the first person I thought of while the devs were talking about that.  

[Potato Cat]

I was just while ago thinking how it'd be nice to have these two back. They are hilarious And I want dragonskin armor! XD

Sadly, I think it was confirmed a while back they are not returning. Which certainly explains why in Inquisition, your armour can and will get damaged.

[RynJ]

I know, but you brought up something I was attempting to put into words, but, I feel so sick right now that I didn't express that correctly. :3

 

Haha then I'm glad I could put it into words for you! Being sick is no picnic, feel better!