I would toss them all into a dragon pit, for him. At least on my Cullen romanced play through.
I used to be so determined to romance Varric, but I'm getting more and more convinced that Varric in fact will NOT be romanceable. Part of me even thinks, Varric will pull a Judas.
Now it's Cullen who seems to be my main squeeze.
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I would toss them all into a dragon pit, for him. At least on my Cullen romanced play through.
I used to be so determined to romance Varric, but I'm getting more and more convinced that Varric in fact will NOT be romanceable. Part of me even thinks, Varric will pull a Judas.
Now it's Cullen who seems to be my main squeeze.
We can't even think that!!! It's......it's........it's unthinkable!! Varric will never betray me! Never! At least.....not for 30 pieces of silver. Now, 30 sovereigns maybe, but.........
Hypothetical Plot Twist:
Cullen is actually a follower and you have to choose between him and one of the Mages, probably Vivienne.
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Oh my god, it's like Sophie's choice!
So...the Inquisitor would send Viv to the gas chamber, and then at the end of the game the Inquisitor and their LI take cyanide together? 
LOL That would be the easiest DA tradeoff I've ever made!
My thoughts exactly 
I don't even really know these other folks.
Andraste loves Cullen, and she's like, "Win!" And POOF - Cullen winsWhat if he always win? Not because he did cheat ... just because he has a lot of luck. It would be funny to see Varric upset about it.
I thought Leliana was a Seeker. She had a Seeker's amulet in DAO, after all. But maybe it was just a gift from Dorothea/Cassandra. After all, DotS states that Seekers are elite templars, and Leliana is obviously not a templar.I had no idea Leliana wasn't a Seeker. What she meant to have been when she was off being the 'left hand of the Divine'? Was it just a sort of thing where Justinia was basically keeping herself not linked to whatever she ordered her to do because she's not actually working for her in the traditiomal sense?
P. S. Stormcloaks forever! Empire stinks!
Man I've put like 100 hours into that game, got married, own like five houses... and still haven't picked a side and have barely begun the main quest Oh, Skyrim... why you so silly.
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Man I've put like 100 hours into that game, got married, own like five houses... and still haven't picked a side and have barely begun the main quest
That's how I feel about every single GTA game ever. "Main quest? What main quest? I'm too busy running red lights and hitting little old ladies with my car." In Skyrim, I played the main quest and only the main quest.
That's how I feel about every single GTA game ever. "Main quest? What main quest? I'm too busy running red lights and hitting little old ladies with my car." In Skyrim, I played the main quest and only the main quest.
I think I just got a little nuts about leveling up my character. I kept thinking, oh I need to get to this level in sneak or whatever, THEN I'll be ready to do these obviously important quests. Then school started back up, and I could only play sporadically. Every time I sat back down to play I had no idea where I'd left off, so I'd just pick one of the 20 or 30 quests in my queue and go for it lol Or I'd get bored and travel to a city I hadn't visited... do all those mini-quests... get made knight or whatever... buy my new house and so on.
I actually didn't even realize there was a main quest until a couple months ago... o.o
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Some peeps are hanging out in the chat, if anyone wants to jump in. 
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Re: Cullen post-Meredith.
I suspect if Hawke was pro-mage, then Cullen had to leave. I have this mental image of him picking Samson from the dirt, saying, hey, let's be illegal blood-mage-hunting-buddies? And Samson was like, sure, let's just steal all the lyrium first! And so they stole all the lyrium, and left. A year later they met Ser Michel, and he joined the team, and they became the blood-mage-and-demon-hunting buddies. And Michel taught Cullen to be 10 times more badass than Cullen already was.
Meanwhile Meredith's statue influenced the minds of the templars in the Gallows, and they all went crazy eventually. They stopped going into the city, and boats with food and goods merchants would send stopped coming back. People assumed the Gallows is now cursed and haunted by the ghosts of innocent little mages. When Cassandra arrived to investigate, the Gallows was empty, and the lyrium statue of Meredith was gone as well. Some fishermen whispered about red boats leaving Kirkwall at night a couple of weeks ago... But Cassandra failed to find more.
I was just saying last night how stupid it is that people get so worked up over a political issue in a video game. How about you put aside whether you think mages should go free or not (considering they are not actual people and Thedas is not a real bloody place) and focus on the characters, their complexity and possible hidden secrets, the future relationships, the richness of the narrative, the various choices we may be presented with?
But nooo people gotta get on that soapbox and talk about utter nonsense.
I'm not saying the mage/templar thing isn't important; sure it's important; it's what creates narrative conflict and invites us to create many different characters with differing beliefs. But arguing passionately about whether mages should go free or not is like arguing which side to choose in Skyrim. Which... actually I'm sure people probably do argue passionately about
), but there are plently of people who discuss it in a normal way, and I don't see why they should 'get a life', more then the people who discuss characters.I'm not sure how Cullen is recruited in the Inquisition, but I don't think he's recruited afterwards. Expecially since the Inquisition was already formed in some ways, I don't see it likely that it won't have a general/army leader already, and that Cassandra/Inquisitor would recruit the general later (and it doesn't make sense to me that you put someone external to the Inquisition in that position. Yes, we are put at the head, but there's a sort of a reason).After absorbing the "fledgling Inquisition" idea a bit more, I still just can't see how Cullen can already be a part of their organization before they talk to Varric. Of course, they don't go talk to Varric to find out they are wrong about Meredith, etc; they think they know what happened. But, you'd think a thing like "my boss turned into an abomination, flew, and then turned into stone" would be something you'd mention to the Divine and her secret agents worried about Kirkwall. I stand by my lengthy and annoying arguments over the years that there's just no way they talked to him already, or they talked to him and didn't believe him/didn't ask the right questions. None of that suggests Cullen is bosom companions with Cass and Lel at that point. Hmmm....
For the moment, voting for "recruit Cullen and his faction afterwards."
I COULDN'T FIND THE THREAD FOR A SECOND AND I PANICKED
We talked about the Darkspawn Chronicles in the chat, and here are the screenshot of Cullen and his codex entry I promised.
Darkspawn Chronicles is an AU where you are a darkspawn, and you kill everyone you love 
Funny, it looks like Uldred didn't rebel in this AU? Or maybe it was just irrelevant to the Archdemon?
Aw, poor baby. He's not mentally unstable, he's just had a tough life.
Again, I don't mean to be rude. I'm not sure how Cullen is recruited in the Inquisition, but I don't think he's recruited afterwards. Expecially since the Inquisition was already formed in some ways, I don't see it likely that it won't have a general/army leader already, and that Cassandra/Inquisitor would recruit the general later (and it doesn't make sense to me that you put someone external to the Inquisition in that position. Yes, we are put at the head, but there's a sort of a reason).
Plus, I don't see in which group he'll be in if he was outside of the Inquisition.
I Agree that the situation is strange, but I think it is because we miss some info on the event between DA2 (Meredith's end) and Varric's interrogation.
He could be in the actual Inquisition at the point that the Inquisitor joins. But my point is that I'm skeptical he's a part of the 'fledgling' Inquisition at the point that Varric is being interrogated. I don't know that a fledgling organization necessarily needs its full military branch in place if what it's it doing is sneaky information collecting. For all we know, the interview with Varric is what suggested to them to seek out Cullen.
He could be in the actual Inquisition at the point that the Inquisitor joins. But my point is that I'm skeptical he's a part of the 'fledgling' Inquisition at the point that Varric is being interrogated. I don't know that a fledgling organization necessarily needs its full military branch in place if what it's it doing is sneaky information collecting. For all we know, the interview with Varric is what suggested to them to seek out Cullen.
I agree with this.
I think he'll definitely be a part of the Inquisition by the time the Inquisitor arrives on the scene, but I'm not sure he'd be part of the Inquisition during their "lets interrogate everyone's favourite storytelling dwarf" stage. Although, there were a lot of events that Cullen wouldn't have been able to tell them about, such as Hawke's beginnings, and the whole Deep Roads, and the full consequences that led to the final battle with Meredith, which would mean they'd probably want to track Varric down anyway.
He could be in the actual Inquisition at the point that the Inquisitor joins. But my point is that I'm skeptical he's a part of the 'fledgling' Inquisition at the point that Varric is being interrogated. I don't know that a fledgling organization necessarily needs its full military branch in place if what it's it doing is sneaky information collecting. For all we know, the interview with Varric is what suggested to them to seek out Cullen.
The thing that doesn't make sense is that they keep describing how the Inquisition was formed differently. In the articles they say that the Inquisition was a Plan B the Divine was looking into and when she dies Cassandra does more research into it and uses a loop hole to reform it. But now they're saying that Cass and Leliana at the end of DA2 were the fledgling Inquisition sent there because the Divine wanted answers, but that point she's still alive. Sooooo, why would Cassandra be looking into reforming the Inquisition when it was already a newly formed thing? Lol.
The thing that doesn't make sense is that they keep describing how the Inquisition was formed differently. In the articles they say that the Inquisition was a Plan B the Divine was looking into and when she dies Cassandra does more research into it and uses a loop hole to reform it. But now they're saying that Cass and Leliana at the end of DA2 were the fledgling Inquisition sent there because the Divine wanted answers, but that point she's still alive. Sooooo, why would Cassandra be looking into reforming the Inquisition when it was already a newly formed thing? Lol.
You'd think they'd have sent round a memo, at least
Perhaps the Divine put into place the reformation of the Inquisition on the down low, and Cassandra looked into it further and made it a real thing after she died.
Alternatively, the Divine could already be dead by the time Cassandra interrogates Varric :/
Oh, understood. Yes, I think you're theory is likely.He could be in the actual Inquisition at the point that the Inquisitor joins. But my point is that I'm skeptical he's a part of the 'fledgling' Inquisition at the point that Varric is being interrogated. I don't know that a fledgling organization necessarily needs its full military branch in place if what it's it doing is sneaky information collecting. For all we know, the interview with Varric is what suggested to them to seek out Cullen.
The thing that doesn't make sense is that they keep describing how the Inquisition was formed differently. In the articles they say that the Inquisition was a Plan B the Divine was looking into and when she dies Cassandra does more research into it and uses a loop hole to reform it. But now they're saying that Cass and Leliana at the end of DA2 were the fledgling Inquisition sent there because the Divine wanted answers, but that point she's still alive. Sooooo, why would Cassandra be looking into reforming the Inquisition when it was already a newly formed thing? Lol.
It might be an unofficial formation. Meaning that they were formally the Seekers forces (or, if not Seekers, a force not officially known), but the official formation happens after the Breach.
I guess it all depends on whether or not the Divine had made them aware that they were the fledgling Inquisition, lol. The theory that she had already started to reform it turned out to be correct, so who knows. Bards are sneaky like that!
The thing that doesn't make sense is that they keep describing how the Inquisition was formed differently. In the articles they say that the Inquisition was a Plan B the Divine was looking into and when she dies Cassandra does more research into it and uses a loop hole to reform it. But now they're saying that Cass and Leliana at the end of DA2 were the fledgling Inquisition sent there because the Divine wanted answers, but that point she's still alive. Sooooo, why would Cassandra be looking into reforming the Inquisition when it was already a newly formed thing? Lol.
He didn't necessarily say that Cass does more research for the first time after the explosion, tho. It says she uses a loophole that they'd already planned upon. Perhaps by "fledgling Inquisition," that just means "Justinia's secret stuff club" and part of their club shenanigans has been making a plan for a real Inquisition? I could see Justinia already being concerned about stuff, since she seems to have plans within plans, but maybe it's her death that triggers the "real" Inquisition.
I guess so. In truth, I always wondered how the Chantry can have that army in DA2. Asunder and Varric's words seem to imply tha the vast majority of templars and Seekers (and Cassandra's interview kind of confirm it) left the Chantry.I guess it all depends on whether or not the Divine had made them aware that they were the fledgling Inquisition, lol. The theory that she had alright started to reform it turned out to be correct, so who knows. Bards are sneaky like that!
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