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[HurricaneGinger]

 

On that note: What are the first world-states y'all are going to create in the Keep? Are you going to recreate your existing saves? Or make a whole new world all together?

 

I'm going to recreate/fix the majority of my playthroughs, as well as create the ones I never started. Fixing PTs is due to not wanting to do another run of the game because despite my adoration for it, I have run it dry. XD Plus, I made choices for a character they would never make now that I know them better, so I will be fixing that.

 

Although, I may redo my City Elf PT. That's probably my second favorite origin story. 

 

I'll probably write up all the bios for my Wardens on Tumblr to introduce people to them. I have an...ahem...Excel spreadsheet of all my PTs for DA. *blush*

[SmilesJA]

So this is my first post on the Bioware forum. Some of you may know me as Cullenite1 on the chat, of all of my time lurking in the Bioware forums you guys were the friendliest bunch I've seen. I love the Dragon Age series, I love it's lore, it's wit and more importantly I love the characters. To be honest, I haven't played a series where I loved characters more than the gameplay. The gameplay is good don't get me wrong, but the companions were believable and well written that I felt drawn to them. I spent a lot of my time running  around hoping to listen to the companions bicker at each other. They felt like real people and I enjoyed taking them on random places slaying darkspawn or whoever came in our way. Dragon Age to me is more than just a game, it's an adventure starring your character and his friends jumping in, kicking butt and conversing with each other, very few games had that affect on me.

 

So my thoughts on Cullen.....

 

I'd admit I played Dragon Age 2 first (and loved it) so I didn't know much about Cullen's character. All I know was that he was the templar who took Bethany away. I disliked with a passion and spent the rest of the game actively opposing the Templars. It wasn't until Act 3 when he stood up to Meridith, was when I thought "this man has some stones." I still disliked him though, but he quickly gained some of my respect. A few months later, I bought Origins and after going through the Circle I found a mentally tormented Cullen. I felt pity for him as he looked like he wanted to kill himself after all of the abuse he through. It was then I understood why he was so hostile to mages. After Origins I played Dragon Age 2 again and connected Cullen's development. I saw a man who felt that he wanted to do the Maker's duty and protect mages from themselves. He believes in Templar's mission and will do whatever it takes to achieve it. He may be extreme at times, but it was with good reason at least to him. It was only in Act 3 was that he started to doubt the methods that the Templars were doing to the mages. He questioned his own morality, should he be harsh on mages? Should they deserve death? it came to a boiling point when Merideth was acting crazy was that Cullen decided that's enough. He would have his morals compromised anymore and stood up against authority.

 

Cullen is an interesting character, because as someone on this forum said he develops on his own rather than rely on the player to influence them. He makes his own choices, rather than let the player do it for them. He overcomes moral dilemma by himself rather than the player giving him advice. He stood up to Merideth on his own without any nudge by the player. Cullen is interesting because he's a character who becomes a man on his own terms. I'm curious to see what more is in store for Cullen. Will he hold his hatred for mages or will he more understanding? Why did he join the Inquisition? Does he have family? Is he capable of leading an army? Is he straight or is Bi? 

 

So many questions..... But yeah this is my first post!

 

 

[Galagraphia]

I asked for Cullen, character creator and crafting system. I'm dying to see all 3. I don't think we're going to get long hair in the game but if they have the hairstyles they showed in the original models of elves, humans, female dwarf with the braids and stuff, I think that would satisfy me. What worries me is they don't even have that anymore because NONE of the companions have elaborate hairstyles like that.

 

 

Dear god I hope these are still in the game. The female hairstyles especially are pretty.

I hope I can give a human a round/square face, lol

I wish dwarves could do magic...

[SmilesJA]

Those models look awesome.

[CuriousArtemis]

So many questions..... But yeah this is my first post!

 

Wow, what an awesome first post!!! I, too, played DA2 first, but I never really disliked Cullen for taking Bethany away because I saw him as a cop who was just obeying the law and doing his duty. (I did not really understand what templars and mages were at the time), and as I understood, Bethany WAS breaking the law. Plus he was so civil about it that the whole procedure didn't leave much of a mark on me.

 

Through multiple playthroughs of DA2 (still hadn't played DAO), the character began to stand out as a fairly reasonable individual, almost to the point of being bland. He really seemed to want to tread the line. More than anything he seemed to have the most development and personality than any of the other NPCs in the game. The fact that he took Wilmod out and confronted him ALONE said a lot about his character, I thought. I began to piece together various little details, such as: he's an introvert, his duty is important to him, he's brave, he's at times indecisive, he's loyal, and so on. Not "Is this character good or bad" but "Oh gosh this is a really well-written and nuanced character!"

 

When I did play DAO, I confess I did not realize he was the same character lol I had to come to this thread first and hear the others talk about him in DAO to realize it. Now, knowing all that, it just adds even extra layers to his character.

[CuriousArtemis]

Is he straight or is Bi? 

 

Also-- definitely the most crucial question

[Lorien19]

A bit late but congratulations to everyone who got in the keep!!  
 

[SmilesJA]

Wow, what an awesome first post!!! I, too, played DA2 first, but I never really disliked Cullen for taking Bethany away because I saw him as a cop who was just obeying the law and doing his duty. (I did not really understand what templars and mages were at the time), and as I understood, Bethany WAS breaking the law. Plus he was so civil about it that the whole procedure didn't leave much of a mark on me.

 

Through multiple playthroughs of DA2 (still hadn't played DAO), the character began to stand out as a fairly reasonable individual, almost to the point of being bland. He really seemed to want to tread the line. More than anything he seemed to have the most development and personality than any of the other NPCs in the game. The fact that he took Wilmod out and confronted him ALONE said a lot about his character, I thought. I began to piece together various little details, such as: he's an introvert, his duty is important to him, he's brave, he's at times indecisive, he's loyal, and so on. Not "Is this character good or bad" but "Oh gosh this is a really well-written and nuanced character!"

 

When I did play DAO, I confess I did not realize he was the same character lol I had to come to this thread first and hear the others talk about him in DAO to realize it. Now, knowing all that, it just adds even extra layers to his character.

I'd argue he's just as developed as the main characters in the games.

[LolaLei]

I'd argue he's just as developed as the main characters in the games.

To an extent, although we don't get to see that development play out as much as we do with the companions. For the most part he's still very much a mystery beyond what we've seen of his plight.

[MacyNell]

So this is my first post on the Bioware forum. Some of you may know me as Cullenite1 on the chat, of all of my time lurking in the Bioware forums you guys were the friendliest bunch I've seen. I love the Dragon Age series, I love it's lore, it's wit and more importantly I love the characters. To be honest, I haven't played a series where I loved characters more than the gameplay. The gameplay is good don't get me wrong, but the companions were believable and well written that I felt drawn to them. I spent a lot of my time running  around hoping to listen to the companions bicker at each other. They felt like real people and I enjoyed taking them on random places slaying darkspawn or whoever came in our way. Dragon Age to me is more than just a game, it's an adventure starring your character and his friends jumping in, kicking butt and conversing with each other, very few games had that affect on me.

 

So my thoughts on Cullen.....

 

I'd admit I played Dragon Age 2 first (and loved it) so I didn't know much about Cullen's character. All I know was that he was the templar who took Bethany away. I disliked with a passion and spent the rest of the game actively opposing the Templars. It wasn't until Act 3 when he stood up to Meridith, was when I thought "this man has some stones." I still disliked him though, but he quickly gained some of my respect. A few months later, I bought Origins and after going through the Circle I found a mentally tormented Cullen. I felt pity for him as he looked like he wanted to kill himself after all of the abuse he through. It was then I understood why he was so hostile to mages. After Origins I played Dragon Age 2 again and connected Cullen's development. I saw a man who felt that he wanted to do the Maker's duty and protect mages from themselves. He believes in Templar's mission and will do whatever it takes to achieve it. He may be extreme at times, but it was with good reason at least to him. It was only in Act 3 was that he started to doubt the methods that the Templars were doing to the mages. He questioned his own morality, should he be harsh on mages? Should they deserve death? it came to a boiling point when Merideth was acting crazy was that Cullen decided that's enough. He would have his morals compromised anymore and stood up against authority.

 

Cullen is an interesting character, because as someone on this forum said he develops on his own rather than rely on the player to influence them. He makes his own choices, rather than let the player do it for them. He overcomes moral dilemma by himself rather than the player giving him advice. He stood up to Merideth on his own without any nudge by the player. Cullen is interesting because he's a character who becomes a man on his own terms. I'm curious to see what more is in store for Cullen. Will he hold his hatred for mages or will he more understanding? Why did he join the Inquisition? Does he have family? Is he capable of leading an army? Is he straight or is Bi? 

 

So many questions..... But yeah this is my first post!

 

I'm late on this, but WELCOME to the forum!  Great insight in your post.  I completely agree with your assessment of his character. I cannot wait to find out what turn of events leads him to becoming part of the Inquisition, and what his thoughts are about...well, everything! 

[MacyNell]

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE CULLENITES THAT MADE IT INTO THE KEEP!!  

 

At least we're represented, yo!   My disappointment at my empty inbox was deep and painful, but then I realized how freakin' close we are to having the actual game in our hands...well, it made me feel better.  And meanwhile, we still have tons of fun speculation and squeeing over reveals and whatnot coming our way, so yeah, it's all good!

 

This place.  What would I do while waiting for this game without this place?    

[R2s Muse]

So this is my first post on the Bioware forum. 

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Cullen is an interesting character, because as someone on this forum said he develops on his own rather than rely on the player to influence them. He makes his own choices, rather than let the player do it for them. He overcomes moral dilemma by himself rather than the player giving him advice. He stood up to Merideth on his own without any nudge by the player. Cullen is interesting because he's a character who becomes a man on his own terms. 

 

Welcome, welcome!  I do think it's impressive how he has evolved over the games, and his larger arc certainly doesn't change based upon the player's choices. But, I don't think I 'd say that he isn't influenced by the player.

 

Many of his actions and responses depend upon the player's choices, and actually most of the choices he can make are left to Hawke (sparing Keran, sparing the three mages, sparing Samson, etc). How moderate or harsh his comments are about mages usually depend upon if the player is moderate or extreme. In fact, he responds best to the moderate comments, and negatively to the extremes on either end ("this is no scholarly debate!"), which I think is also an interesting window into his character (and explains why many fans don't see his moderate side). I just think he's not important enough of a character for them to track these smaller behavior flags over time. YET!!

[R2s Muse]

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE CULLENITES THAT MADE IT INTO THE KEEP!!  

 

At least we're represented, yo!   My disappointment at my empty inbox was deep and painful, but then I realized how freakin' close we are to having the actual game in our hands...well, it made me feel better.  And meanwhile, we still have tons of fun speculation and squeeing over reveals and whatnot coming our way, so yeah, it's all good!

 

This place.  What would I do while waiting for this game without this place?    

LOL Yes, congrats to all. 

[Mellora]

I think it's due to the "mages are not people like you and me" dialog that some fans keep considering Cullen as an extremist.

[LolaLei]

I think it's due to the "mages are not people like you and me" dialog that some fans keep considering Cullen as an extremist.

 

Yeah, whether he meant it to come off the way it did or not people tend to over look the fact that it was literally only a year since his torture so of course he's gonna be "rawr" about it. Clearly his opinion can be changed, or he's realised a few things by the time DA:I comes around since it seems like he'll romance a mage protagonist, which I suspect to be the case since it doesn't look like the romances are class-gated.

[The Elder King]

I do think that at the start of DA2 is view are quite harsh/extreme, though he avoidable abusing mages as other extremist templars did.
His view might have changed a bit during the game, and I'll expect then to be different after Meredith's actions.

[LolaLei]

I do think that at the start of DA2 is view are quite harsh/extreme, though he avoidable abusing mages as other extremist templars did.
His view might have changed a bit during the game, and I'll expect then to be different after Meredith's actions.

 

Absolutely, but it's understandable. I didn't expect his views to change about mages at all, let only have him defy his boss and aid us in slaying her. I actually thought we'd have to kill him when Meredith turned on us and ordered her troops to kill Hawke 'n' co. I'm incredibly glad it didn't come to that!

[wiccame]

Absolutely, but it's understandable. I didn't expect his views to change about mages at all, let only have him defy his boss and aid us in slaying her. I actually thought we'd have to kill him when Meredith turned on us and ordered her troops to kill Hawke 'n' co. I'm incredibly glad it didn't come to that!

Really? I never thought that, I mean I didn't think he would fight along side us at the end, but I expected him to question Meredith's motives at some point. But after the times we could convince him to go easy on mages, and when he says he even doubted he was serving the templar orders ideals, and the 'She's not there yet'. I highly expected him to turn on her at some point.

[Fialka]

So this is my first post on the Bioware forum.

 

*snip*

 

 

So many questions..... But yeah this is my first post!

Hello, and welcome!  I'm new-ish to forums myself - joined around the time all that E3 madness was going around.  This is definitely my favorite thread.  Even when I don't really have anything to add or am posting elsewhere on the forums, I come here and read and absorb all the good vibes!

 

And yes, as someone who always goes the pro-mage route, I found Cullen's views in Act 1, even 2 to an extent, when he doesn't condemn the tranquil solution outright, pretty extreme and distasteful, but still think he's a great character and look forward to where the future takes him.  

 

Heh... the first time I played the mage Origins and got the 'stammer and run away' dialogue, I didn't realize he was that crazy dude in the pink bubble from my previous play-throughs at all... Made it that much more heartbreaking to find him in there.  And then I encountered him in DA2 and he was a total BAMF and I was like   but then he took my sister away and was like 'mages BAD YARGH' and I was like   and then at the end when he stood up to Meredith and fought by my side I was all   all over again... *Sigh...*

 

  

[LolaLei]

Really? I never thought that, I mean I didn't think he would fight along side us at the end, but I expected him to question Meredith's motives at some point. But after the times we could convince him to go easy on mages, and when he says he even doubted he was serving the templar orders ideals, and the 'She's not there yet'. I highly expected him to turn on her at some point.

 

Well, during my first play-through I didn't think to keep going back to talk to him because I was so overwhelmed trying to find my way around Kirkwall without getting lost and stuff (I have terrible geographical and map reading skills) that it just never occurred to me. So while I was aware that he was questioning Meredith's motivations by Act 3 I hadn't heard all his ambient dialogue etc to fill in the gaps. I just didn't think he'd actually turn against Meredith, especially since during the first go you're not aware that she's loopy on red lyrium until she shows you the sword, like you are on all subsequent play-throughs. 

[meanieweenie]

Well, during my first play-through I didn't think to keep going back to talk to him because I was so overwhelmed trying to find my way around Kirkwall without getting lost and stuff (I have terrible geographical and map reading skills) that it just never occurred to me. So while I was aware that he was questioning Meredith's motivations by Act 3 I hadn't heard all his ambient dialogue etc to fill in the gaps. I just didn't think he'd actually turn against Meredith, especially since during the first go you're not aware that she's loopy on red lyrium until she shows you the sword, like you are on all subsequent play-throughs. 

Me too. Initially, I figured he'd just somehow convince Meredith to go easy on us. Maybe just jail time. Once I realized lady done lost her mind all bets were off, of course. I did not expect BOTH sides to go off the wall and come at you regardless of your choices.

[LolaLei]

Me too. Initially, I figured he'd just somehow convince Meredith to go easy on us. Maybe just jail time. Once I realized lady done lost her mind all bets were off, of course. I did not expect BOTH sides to go off the wall and come at you regardless of your choices.

 

Yeah, I was like wtf when Orsino went all monsterlicious on us... I don't entirely know why he even turned into a harvester? Most blood mages just chuck sh!t around and stab themselves a lot.

[wiccame]

Well, during my first play-through I didn't think to keep going back to talk to him because I was so overwhelmed trying to find my way around Kirkwall without getting lost and stuff (I have terrible geographical and map reading skills) that it just never occurred to me. So while I was aware that he was questioning Meredith's motivations by Act 3 I hadn't heard all his ambient dialogue etc to fill in the gaps. I just didn't think he'd actually turn against Meredith, especially since during the first go you're not aware that she's loopy on red lyrium until she shows you the sword, like you are on all subsequent play-throughs. 

Ahhh I can see that then....lol I have a habit of poking people to see if they talk (cause in DAO, I missed a lot of people this way, including Cullen) and I ended up poking Cullen a lot very quickly.