Ahhh I can see that then....lol I have a habit of poking people to see if they talk (cause in DAO, I missed a lot of people this way, including Cullen) and I ended up poking Cullen a lot very quickly.
I wanted to, but I could never find the bugger, LOL! I'm gonna suck so bad at DAI... I'll literally be lost 90% of the time.
Yeah, I was like wtf when Orsino went all monsterlicious on us... I don't entirely no why he even turned into a harvester? Most blood mages just chuck sh!t around and stab themselves a lot.
ikr, I mean we were vastly outnumbered, Orsino even said we probably didnt stand much of a chance. So yeah Orsino, throw us a harvester to fight among all the templars we have to contend with, very clever!
Yeah, I was like wtf when Orsino went all monsterlicious on us... I don't entirely no why he even turned into a harvester? Most blood mages just chuck sh!t around and stab themselves a lot.
Right? First play through, I sided with the mages and I was like "WTF? Why are you attacking me? I just helped you!". So the next I sided with the Templars and Meredith went and did the same thing! 
Should've just went out for beers and let those two work it out on their own.
ikr, I mean we were vastly outnumbered, Orsino even said we probably didnt stand much of a chance. So yeah Orsino, throw us a harvester to fight among all the templars we have to contend with, very clever!
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ikr, I mean we were vastly outnumbered, Orsino even said we probably didnt stand much of a chance. So yeah Orsino, throw us a harvester to fight among all the templars we have to contend with, very clever!
Couldn't he have just summoned one up? There was a whole pile of dead bodies he could have used instead of turning into one himself, LOL!
I think it's due to the "mages are not people like you and me" dialog that some fans keep considering Cullen as an extremist.
That, too, but there are lots of additional dialogue options that flesh out his opinion. And they depend a lot on what your Hawke says to him. So I'm certainly not saying that's the only reason people hate him... there are countless. But folks often overlook a lot his dialogue because it's either ambient or hidden behind certain choices.
To be fair though, once I discovered that Orsino aided thingy in killing Hawke's mother (intentional or not) he was a dead man walking anyway! Plus, he creeped me out when he made a pervy comment at my female Hawke during the first play-through, lol.
Oh, I agree. I expected him to have those views. I understand his reasons.Absolutely, but it's understandable. I didn't expect his views to change about mages at all, let only have him defy his boss and aid us in slaying her. I actually thought we'd have to kill him when Meredith turned on us and ordered her troops to kill Hawke 'n' co. I'm incredibly glad it didn't come to that!
To be fair though, once I discovered that Orsino aided thingy in killing Hawke's mother (intentional or not) he was a dead man walking anyway! Plus, he creeped me out when he made a pervy comment at my female Hawke during the first play-through, lol.
To be fair though, once I discovered that Orsino aided thingy in killing Hawke's mother (intentional or not) he was a dead man walking anyway! Plus, he creeped me out when he made a pervy comment at my female Hawke during the first play-through, lol.
What!??
Couldn't he have just summoned one up? There was a whole pile of dead bodies he could have used instead of turning into one himself, LOL!
lol exactly, or you know, maybe do it when we are surrounded by templars...there were a few there but behind a barrier so he should have known he would be attacking us..
Oh, I agree. I expected him to have those views. I understand his reasons.
During the course of the game (expecially act 3) I had the feeling he wouldn't fight Hakwe though.
I'm interested to see what he has to say about Hawke, especially if (like mine) he/she was pro-mage and supported Anders in blowing up the Chantry/let him live. In my game Cullen let not only my mage Hawke go, but Anders too so I'd like to hear his reasoning for it.
What did he say?
Lemme see if I can find it on YT. One sec.
Got it!:
*Edit* If you bring Anders along he'll chime in with "I'd pay to see that", which is pretty funny.
I fear what will happen to my Hawke's views. He wasn't pro-mage, but neutral. He picked mages in the end because the Circle wasn't involved with Anders. I hope that the few choices when you can pick a neutral approach will count in building Hakwe's views.I'm interested to see what he has to say about Hawke, especially if (like mine) he/she was pro-mage and supported Anders in blowing up the Chantry/let him live. In my game Cullen let not only my mage Hawke go, but Anders too so I'd like to hear his reasoning for it.
Got it!:
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*Edit* If you bring Anders along he'll chime in with "I'd pay to see that", which is pretty funny.
lol now I have to try that line....Orsino, showing he truly is frustrated!
Well...that's certainly interestingGot it!:
*Edit* If you bring Anders along he'll chime in with "I'd pay to see that", which is pretty funny.
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So this is my first post on the Bioware forum. Some of you may know me as Cullenite1 on the chat, of all of my time lurking in the Bioware forums you guys were the friendliest bunch I've seen. I love the Dragon Age series, I love it's lore, it's wit and more importantly I love the characters. To be honest, I haven't played a series where I loved characters more than the gameplay. The gameplay is good don't get me wrong, but the companions were believable and well written that I felt drawn to them. I spent a lot of my time running around hoping to listen to the companions bicker at each other. They felt like real people and I enjoyed taking them on random places slaying darkspawn or whoever came in our way. Dragon Age to me is more than just a game, it's an adventure starring your character and his friends jumping in, kicking butt and conversing with each other, very few games had that affect on me.
So my thoughts on Cullen.....
I'd admit I played Dragon Age 2 first (and loved it) so I didn't know much about Cullen's character. All I know was that he was the templar who took Bethany away. I disliked with a passion and spent the rest of the game actively opposing the Templars. It wasn't until Act 3 when he stood up to Meridith, was when I thought "this man has some stones." I still disliked him though, but he quickly gained some of my respect. A few months later, I bought Origins and after going through the Circle I found a mentally tormented Cullen. I felt pity for him as he looked like he wanted to kill himself after all of the abuse he through. It was then I understood why he was so hostile to mages. After Origins I played Dragon Age 2 again and connected Cullen's development. I saw a man who felt that he wanted to do the Maker's duty and protect mages from themselves. He believes in Templar's mission and will do whatever it takes to achieve it. He may be extreme at times, but it was with good reason at least to him. It was only in Act 3 was that he started to doubt the methods that the Templars were doing to the mages. He questioned his own morality, should he be harsh on mages? Should they deserve death? it came to a boiling point when Merideth was acting crazy was that Cullen decided that's enough. He would have his morals compromised anymore and stood up against authority.
Cullen is an interesting character, because as someone on this forum said he develops on his own rather than rely on the player to influence them. He makes his own choices, rather than let the player do it for them. He overcomes moral dilemma by himself rather than the player giving him advice. He stood up to Merideth on his own without any nudge by the player. Cullen is interesting because he's a character who becomes a man on his own terms. I'm curious to see what more is in store for Cullen. Will he hold his hatred for mages or will he more understanding? Why did he join the Inquisition? Does he have family? Is he capable of leading an army? Is he straight or is Bi?
So many questions..... But yeah this is my first post!
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I fear what will happen to my Hawke's views. He wasn't pro-mage, but neutral. He picked mages in the end because the Circle wasn't involved with Anders. I hope that the few choices when you can pick a neutral approach will count in building Hakwe's views.
Yeah, while my Hawke was pro-mage he tried to keep in neutral when dealing with both Orsino and Meredith in the hope of preventing the fight from breaking out knowing that if it did then a lot of innocents would get hurt. Of course, it breaks out anyway so he naturally sided with the mages.
Got it!:
*Edit* If you bring Anders along he'll chime in with "I'd pay to see that", which is pretty funny.
Haha! Too funny! I never play Snarky Hawke so i never saw that. But yeah, when he went all 'monsterlicious' (my favorite word of the day, now) I was like, um, dude... we're on the same side...? I guess he just figures we're all going to die anyway so at least this way he could take down a whole bunch of Templars along with us. Or, BIoware really needed us to have two boss fights, and Harvester-Orsino was cool.
To be fair though, once I discovered that Orsino aided thingy in killing Hawke's mother (intentional or not) he was a dead man walking anyway! Plus, he creeped me out when he made a pervy comment at my female Hawke during the first play-through, lol.
He never did, even unintentionally. All their correspondence was from before Quentin went nuts.
I'll laugh if it turns out Cullen isn't shortbread at all.
I'll just have to make him start serving meatballs or something then lol.
He never did, even unintentionally. All their correspondence was from before Quentin went nuts.
He did. You can find a letter with the inital "O" signed at the bottom during that weird quest with that Orlesian blood mage dude. You can confront him about it at the end and he'll admit to it. Gimme a sec and I'll find it.
He did. You can find a letter with the inital "O" signed at the bottom. You can confront him about it at the end and he'll admit to it. Gimme a sec and I'll find it.
I know. I remember it. That came from before Quentin's wife's death.
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