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EDIT: :ph34r: 'd


Hehe I think that's the first time I've ninja'd somebody! :D

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Hehe I think that's the first time I've ninja'd somebody! :D

 

You're quick on the draw, partner.  :bandit:


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Ha ha! I did not remember that at all, that is too funny. Glad it was retconned. Maybe part of me did remember, and that's where I got the idea that he was psychotically anti-mage.


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Hello! Just wondering if anyone has seen this yet? 

 

It's a 12 second video which from the "Discover The Dragon Age" panel which captures the love interest announcement by Mr Laidlaw. We get to hear part of ""Oh, yeah, there's gonna be some Cullen in ya life. We figured, 'hey, man, three games, let's give him a shot. You go for it, buddy, and if you act a little awkward, well, that's okay.' "

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=eJk37s3gjdg

 

*excited*


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Hello! Just wondering if anyone has seen this yet? 

 

It's a 12 second video which from the "Discover The Dragon Age" panel which captures the love interest announcement by Mr Laidlaw. We get to hear part of ""Oh, yeah, there's gonna be some Cullen in ya life. We figured, 'hey, man, three games, let's give him a shot. You go for it, buddy, and if you act a little awkward, well, that's okay.' "

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=eJk37s3gjdg

 

*excited*

 

I saw that~

 

I want to see the whole thing so badly.



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The slides at the end of DAO (not DAI  :P). One of them references Cullen going mad and killing several apprentices before scampering off into the woods.

 

Considering DA2, that was unlikely. It has since been noted that the DAO slides are only rumor and myth, and the Devs will not stay bound to what they wrote there.

 

EDIT:  :ph34r: 'd

 

I love what Cullen says of Templar recruits in DA2, that they're worse at spreading rumours than old women in a knitting circle. It makes total sense to imagine that the Origins slide about him going crazy was something the Ferelden Templars and Circle Mages came up with after he mysteriously transferred to Kirkwall.


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I saw that~

 

I want to see the whole thing so badly.

 

Hopefully someone will upload something soon. There had to be more than one person filming the panel? *hopeful*



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You're quick on the draw, partner. :bandit:


*blows smoke off phone* Do you feel lucky, punk? ;)
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I love what Cullen says of Templar recruits in DA2, that they're worse at spreading rumours than old women in a knitting circle. It makes total sense to imagine that the Origins slide about him going crazy was something the Ferelden Templars and Circle Mages came up with after he mysteriously transferred to Kirkwall.


And we KNOW that mages love to gab as well! :D After the retcon, I kind if took that idea as the explanation for it myself.

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As do people in Kirkwall, like the rumour about how Hawke uses the Arishok's skull as a gravy-boat.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we hear "Meredith Lives!" conspiracy theories in DAI from various people.


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The slides at the end of DAO (not DAI  :P). One of them references Cullen going mad and killing several apprentices before scampering off into the woods.
 
Considering DA2, that was unlikely. It has since been noted that the DAO slides are only rumor and myth, and the Devs will not stay bound to what they wrote there.
 
EDIT:  :ph34r: 'd


I'm really glad I never got that epilogue slide, for whatever reason! It would have made me all sad panda.

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Running into a half naked deranged barbarian Cullen would have been funny too.  :rolleyes:


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The slides at the end of DAO (not DAI  :P). One of them references Cullen going mad and killing several apprentices before scampering off into the woods.
 
Considering DA2, that was unlikely. It has since been noted that the DAO slides are only rumor and myth, and the Devs will not stay bound to what they wrote there.
 
EDIT:  :ph34r: 'd


I just imagined Cullen skipping into the woods full armor and everything, he was also whistling :P

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I'm really glad I never got that epilogue slide, for whatever reason! It would have made me all sad panda.


It made me very sad panda. Because I don't agree with the Circle system the way it is and thought people like Cullen as he is in the beginning were just what the Order needed. So his ravings in Broken Circle made me all disappoint but I thought he'd come around. Then that awful DAO epilogue... :( I wasn't terribly invested in Cullen as a character at that time but I was curious as to whether he could be a part and catalyst of great change. Then to have him go bonkers thanks to Uldred was just... :( So having that retconned restored some of my... Hope I guess? That he would be a reasonable moderate person (among others) to help find the compromise that Anders believes doesn't exist.
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*crosses fingers* two more days....
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It made me very sad panda. Because I don't agree with the Circle system the way it is and thought people like Cullen as he is in the beginning were just what the Order needed. So his ravings in Broken Circle made me all disappoint but I thought he'd come around. Then that awful DAO epilogue... :( I wasn't terribly invested in Cullen as a character at that time but I was curious as to whether he could be a part and catalyst of great change. Then to have him go bonkers thanks to Uldred was just... :( So having that retconned restored some of my... Hope I guess? That he would be a reasonable moderate person (among others) to help find the compromise that Anders believes doesn't exist.

 

See, this is why it makes me wonder how Cullen was ever a minor character in the first place? The guy is practically perfect for the role of helping to bridge the gaps between the Mages and the Templars, since despite his occasional claim to the contrary, he's definitely a Mage sympathiser at heart!


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See, this is why it makes me wonder how Cullen was ever a minor character in the first place? The guy is practically perfect for the role of helping to bridge the gaps between the Mages and the Templars, since despite his occasional claim to the contrary, he's definitely a Mage sympathiser at heart!


I would soooo totally agree to this, only, the game is stated to not be centered around the mage-templar war. So idk how much of that bridging we will actually see. OxO

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Since we've gotten the viewpoints of many different mage companions by now, it'd be nice to finally have an actual templar's view on the system.


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It made me very sad panda. Because I don't agree with the Circle system the way it is and thought people like Cullen as he is in the beginning were just what the Order needed. So his ravings in Broken Circle made me all disappoint but I thought he'd come around. Then that awful DAO epilogue... :( I wasn't terribly invested in Cullen as a character at that time but I was curious as to whether he could be a part and catalyst of great change. Then to have him go bonkers thanks to Uldred was just... :( So having that retconned restored some of my... Hope I guess? That he would be a reasonable moderate person (among others) to help find the compromise that Anders believes doesn't exist.


This is one of the reasons I love this thread! I love how we have different opinions and It's so fascinating to me that you would phrase it as ravings because I wouldn't call his comments ravings at all! I always saw him as a young man who was tortured by a group of people who are very dangerous. He mentions how he can hear noises that are horrible upstairs-from what he has seen, experienced and heard why would he assume any of the mages WEREN'T possessed? He was the last standing Tempar in that section and mages are naturally tempted by demons so their chances of fighting off the evil are probably less good. I always thought he had a really good point. And let's face it-the warden got lucky! They very well could have been possessed and hid it. Cullen's comments were the reflection of years of training and weeks of torture and weren't necessarily wrong. :)
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See, this is why it makes me wonder how Cullen was ever a minor character in the first place? The guy is practically perfect for the role of helping to bridge the gaps between the Mages and the Templars, since despite his occasional claim to the contrary, he's definitely a Mage sympathiser at heart!


I have always wondered if by the time the second game was being made they didn't plan on having him as a major character for the third. He is perfect for gap bridging and is a really interesting (and attractive lol) character.

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This was one of the things I really loved in SWTOR, where a Light Sided Sith Inquisitor and Ashara often discuss and attempt to reconcile Jedi and Sith teachings, leading them to reach out to Grey Jedi to find similarly minded individuals. Sadly, most of it happens offscreen and they fail more times than not, but it was still an interesting subplot.

 

With the talk of sending scouts or Inquisition forces out to do tasks, it would be nice to send Cullen to reach out to former Templars or the few Templars that defected to the the Mage's side. I could definitely see that being part of his companion personal quest, if they return in this game.


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I agree.  Cullen really has experience with what happens when the shite hits the fan magically.  I found it very difficult as a player to dismiss his advice and his statement about 'everyone being damned by our mercy' in the broken circle quest.   I think that if Thedas and magic were real then I as an everyday Mum would have been appalled that the Warden was so arrogant in their beliefs that they were prepared to ignore the advice of a first hand witness to the atrocity.  Even as a player (and mage) I always hedged my bets by handing the decision about the fate of the Mages straight over to Greagoir, who I felt was the person most capable of making an informed assessment of the situation and had the appropriate training to know what the likely consequences would be.

 

Edit - I really wonder what our actions would be if we were not 'the player character' and therefore certain that we would be able to handle the threat or reload and respec until we can?


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This is one of the reasons I love this thread! I love how we have different opinions and It's so fascinating to me that you would phrase it as ravings because I wouldn't call his comments ravings at all! I always saw him as a young man who was tortured by a group of people who are very dangerous. He mentions how he can hear noises that are horrible upstairs-from what he has seen, experienced and heard why would he assume any of the mages WEREN'T possessed? He was the last standing Tempar in that section and mages are naturally tempted by demons so their chances of fighting off the evil are probably less good. I always thought he had a really good point. And let's face it-the warden got lucky! They very well could have been possessed and hid it. Cullen's comments were the reflection of years of training and weeks of torture and weren't necessarily wrong. :)


I guess I was thinking of what he says after the Warden saves the day as raving. But you raise a good point. They could have been dangerous. I guess I just don't see a person who would demand the slaughter of possible innocents, on the chance they MAY be possessed, as particularly sane. ;) That's why I love his "I believe that's what being a Templar is about" line at the end of DA2.
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I agree.  Cullen really has experience with what happens when the shite hits the fan magically.  I found it very difficult as a player to dismiss his advice and his statement about 'everyone being damned by our mercy' in the broken circle quest.   I think that if Thedas and magic were real then I as an everyday Mum would have been appalled that the Warden was so arrogant in their beliefs that they were prepared to ignore the advice of a first hand witness to the atrocity.  Even as a player (and mage) I always hedged my bets by handing the decision about the fate of the Mages straight over to Greagoir, who I felt was the most person most capable of making an informed assessment of the situation.


Lol! I always felt bad for Cullen in that scene! He comes out and is like "Don't trust them they could be possessed" and Greagoir basically hand waves him and says "Shut up you don't know! I'm in charge!" You can tell Cullen has been trained because I'd have been all, "Oh yeah? And where were you when all the cr@p went down? That's right -sending the warden in to do it for you weeks later!"
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I guess I was thinking of what he says after the Warden saves the day as raving. But you raise a good point. They could have been dangerous. I guess I just don't see a person who would demand the slaughter of possible innocents, on the chance they MAY be possessed, as particularly sane. ;) That's why I love his "I believe that's what being a Templar is about" line at the end of DA2.

 

If playing as a Mage Warden, it adds extra meaning to his fears. In addition to the Demons tormenting him with his crush on a female Mage, at the back of his mind he had to wonder how much they were complicit in Jowan's actions, who was after all, outed as a Blood Mage. And then to see them again in the Tower, having swept through the Demons and Abominations that so easily killed the other Mages and trained Templars, wouldn't you be suspicious of the Mage Warden just a little bit and wonder if they were in league with the enemy?

 

Irrational yes, but after what he'd been through, you could understand his paranoia about the Mages in the tower, as well as them.


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