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Since I was curious myself...
 
DA main site post by MDarrah (32 days ago):
http://www.dragonage...eleases-october
"You emerge as the lone survivor of the magical explosion that creates the Breach, the massive hole in the sky at the heart of the trouble. At first, the people of Thedas won’t be sure what to make of you. Are you responsible for the explosion? Are you a chosen one sent to right this wrong? Are you simply lucky?"
 
Cam in Ausgamer article:
"So [Cass] sets things in motion via this loophole, picking up the Inquisition, but then as a player you need to go through a process of 'well do people believe me? Do they know I didn't cause the explosion? Do they trust me enough? How do I start leading? How do I build it up slowly to the point where it's the Inquisition I want it to be as a player?' And that starts to develop through the plot and the side content."
 
Aaryn Flynn, EA Press Conference June 2014:
On you the Inquisitor: "Your past and motivations are shrouded in mystery."

Hmmm this could mean that we'll probably get more ambiguous backgrounds this time...Which is pretty cool since we can define our characters through our choices and our headcanons.
Still I wouldn't like it if they were a complete mystery a la elder scrolls where you're just a random prisoner.it kind of detached from the rest of the world.Although they did say something about our Inquisitor's surname having some importance to the lore.


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I don't know about amnesia. How would a dalish PC know he's dalish? The tattoo isn't a confirmation one is still dalish. How a qunari will know he's a Vashoth?

:shrug: From my *extensive* knowledge about amnesia from the movies and popular culture *cough*, it doesn't necessarily have to mean you don't know anything. I could be something like your long term memory is there, but it's the recent stuff you've lost. Like alzheimer patients. Because, you know, a wizard did it! :wizard:

 

Honestly, I hope it's something like that, that you're not quite sure you had a role in it. But I suspect, based on those quotes (e.g. Cam: Do they know I didn't cause the explosion?), that you know you didn't do it, and it's more a situation of you having to convince everyone else. :shrug: Makes for some interesting story telling!


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I was wondering about the Amnesia thing....if we were Dalish, maybe Solas could recognise us, 'Hey, aren't you from clan X?' 'Oh, really?'

Actually that works for a lot of the origins....Iron Bull for Quns...Cullen/Cassandra for Mages/Templars...Varric for dwarves. (Ok not being stereotypical, just meaning carta stuff).



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Yeah, we've been speculating that we could be headed for an amnesia scenario. ^_^

 

I guess it's possible that we can forget big chunks of our past but not our name. I knocked myself out once and I can't remember what I done that day at all, even now.  :lol:

 

Unless maybe he means that our past and motivations are shrouded in mystery because we voice those ourself as we go through the game? Or maybe that's a way to make our character unique? Like, we end up with amnesia and gradually bits and pieces of our memory comes back which we pick from throughout conversations over the course of the game? To use a p!ss poor example:

 

Cassandra: "Can you remember anything about your past?"

 

Inquisitor: "... I... I can recall servants, fine clothing... yes, I came from nobility! / dirt, the gutter, living on my wits... yes, I came from the streets! / Fire, screaming, intense heat... yes, I was orphaned as a child and the Chantry took me in!

 

Cassandra: Can you recall anything else? Why was you at the peace gathering? How did you end up in the Fade??

 

Inquisitor: "I... can't...." *holds head*

 

Varric: "Easy, Seeker. Let him/her rest. You'll have plenty of time for 20 questions later..."


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:shrug: From my *extensive* knowledge about amnesia from the movies and popular culture *cough*, it doesn't necessarily have to mean you don't know anything. I could be something like your long term memory is there, but it's the recent stuff you've lost. Like alzheimer patients. Because, you know, a wizard did it! :wizard:

 

Honestly, I hope it's something like that, that you're not quite sure you had a role in it. But I suspect, based on those quotes (e.g. Cam: Do they know I didn't cause the explosion?), that you know you didn't do it, and it's more a situation of you having to convince everyone else. :shrug: Makes for some interesting story telling!

 

Injuries like concussion can be disorienting and cause people to lose their memory of the events immediately preceding the injury. That would work. There's all kinds of fascinating memory conditions. 

One of my favourite is prosopagnosia which is the inability to recognise faces without the help of other cues. I played a game once where the killer was prosopagnosic, really interesting, made me squeal because my degree was relevant :lol:


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:shrug: From my *extensive* knowledge about amnesia from the movies and popular culture *cough*, it doesn't necessarily have to mean you don't know anything. I could be something like your long term memory is there, but it's the recent stuff you've lost. Like alzheimer patients. Because, you know, a wizard did it! :wizard:

 

Honestly, I hope it's something like that, that you're not quite sure you had a role in it. But I suspect, based on those quotes (e.g. Cam: Do they know I didn't cause the explosion?), that you know you didn't do it, and it's more a situation of you having to convince everyone else. :shrug: Makes for some interesting story telling!

I pretty much agree...It may be the case that you know who you are and what your past and motivations were/are before the explosion,but the others don't.We'll probably have to convince them about out intentions etc...But I also like the theory of the Inquisitor can't remember what happened during the explosion and his/her time in the fade,but still has memories of his/her past.



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Yeah, I think it's safe to say that he will be attracted to women. Whether or not he's only attracted to females remains to be seen, I'd say the biggest concern for those planning to play a female protagonist who romances Cullen will be the race of that character. A human is likely your safest bet!

He was quite fond of my elf mage too...I don't see him as a racist or judgemental in anything but the obvious mage issue, but he hasn't let that stop him before, I don't think he will this time round.

I do worry for the people hoping to romance him as Bi, if it is 2/2/2 I'm guessing Solas is the 3rd female LI, being the only other elf I think his chances of being BI is really high. So unless Cullen is an extra romance, it might mean he is the straight option.



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Injuries like concussion can be disorienting and cause people to lose their memory of the events immediately preceding the injury. That would work. There's all kinds of fascinating memory conditions. 

One of my favourite is prosopagnosia which is the inability to recognise faces without the help of other cues. I played a game once where the killer was prosopagnosic, really interesting, made me squeal because my degree was relevant :lol:

Yeah, good point. I heard a story on NPR once about someone who had a head injury and woke up speaking in a different accent. I mean, whoa! Who would think that something like an accent would be an intrinsic characteristic of your brain? 


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Yeah, we've been speculating that we could be headed for an amnesia scenario. ^_^

I was so hoping the elf was an ancient....being confirmed as Dalish blew that idea out the window :crying:


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Injuries like concussion can be disorienting and cause people to lose their memory of the events immediately preceding the injury. That would work. There's all kinds of fascinating memory conditions. 

One of my favourite is prosopagnosia which is the inability to recognise faces without the help of other cues. I played a game once where the killer was prosopagnosic, really interesting, made me squeal because my degree was relevant :lol:

 

That sounds really interesting! What was the game??



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Yeah, good point. I heard a story on NPR once about someone who had a head injury and woke up speaking in a different accent. I mean, whoa! Who would think that something like an accent would be an intrinsic characteristic of your brain? 

 

I read about a woman who choked on something and when they dislodged it she was speaking with an Australian accent, lol.


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He was quite fond of my elf mage too...I don't see him as a racist or judgemental in anything but the obvious mage issue, but he hasn't let that stop him before, I don't think he will this time round.

Well, he has said bigoted things about dwarves and qunari in the past, so I think the jury is still out on that with the five data points we have to extrapolate from. I think that's why Lola said human remains your safest bet.



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Well, he has said bigoted things about dwarves and qunari in the past, so I think the jury is still out on that with the five data points we have to extrapolate from. I think that's why Lola said human remains your safest bet.

Oh yeah forgot about his Qunari conversation, but dwarves? I never knew that.



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Oh yeah forgot about his Qunari conversation, but dwarves? I never knew that.

Just one thing he said to Oghren in DA:O, calling him a heathen. But, again, who knows. I might call Oghren a heathen, too :D


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I pretty much agree...It may be the case that you know who you are and what your past and motivations were/are before the explosion,but the others don't.We'll probably have to convince them about out intentions etc...But I also like the theory of the Inquisitor can't remember what happened during the explosion and his/her time in the fade,but still has memories of his/her past.

 

Yeah, like if we are directly involved in that Fade breach by something we purposely or unintentionally done then perhaps we pop out of the Fade with no recollection of the week/few days leading up to the event. So we'd know who we are but not what we'd been doing all week, lol.

 

Mind you, why would our past be a mystery? Unless our protagonist vehemently refuses to talk about his/her past for whatever reason?


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Just one thing he said to Oghren in DA:O, calling him a heathen. But, again, who knows. I might call Oghren a heathen, too :D

Ahhh ok, I have never taken Oghren to the tower, so I never got that from him 



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Yeah, good point. I heard a story on NPR once about someone who had a head injury and woke up speaking in a different accent. I mean, whoa! Who would think that something like an accent would be an intrinsic characteristic of your brain? 

 

Don't get me started :lol: I can reel out fascinating neuroscience cases and facts for days. For people with severe epilepsy, they sometimes sever the corpus callosum, which joins the two halves of the brain. This limits seizures, but it also has a really interesting side effect. Sperry did some incredible studies where he found that the communication between the two halves was totally limited. If you flashed an image to the left side of the brain, they could tell you what it was, but not draw it. The other way around, they could draw it but not say anything. For one experiment he flashed an image of a naked lady to the right brain. The participants in the study all started laughing, but couldn't tell him why :lol: ohhh the brain is incredible :D


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Yeah, like if we are directly involved in that Fade breach by something we purposely or unintentionally done then perhaps we pop out of the Fade with no recollection of the week/few days leading up to the event. So we'd know who we are but not what we'd been doing all week, lol.

 

Mind you, why would our past be a mystery? Unless our protagonist vehemently refuses to talk about his/her past for whatever reason?

yeah, it's a really curious point for Aaryn to make, so that why I've been puzzling it. Unless he just means means it's shrouded in mystery *for everyone else*. But I rather like the idea that we're not quite sure about it all, because the Fade rattles us. 

 

I would love it if we could pick some of the details of our background based on the few things we remember. Then, we could run into people from our past who tell us about ourselves. Unfortunately, this could potentially disrupt some of our RPing up to that point. On the other hand, maybe that could be cool? You start acting like one person, and you find out that you used to be different. Like, I've said before, I LOVE this premise in the first Resident Evil movie (which suck, but which I love!). 


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That sounds really interesting! What was the game??

 

It's a little mobile game called Cause of Death by EA. It's actually surprisingly good, each chapter has you following the story, making choices in the hope of catching your psychopath(s). It's very quick and pretty easy, but I really liked the characters and the cases presented :)

 

EDIT: It's split into 8-episode seasons, and each season has a different antagonist :)


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Don't get me started :lol: I can reel out fascinating neuroscience cases and facts for days. For people with severe epilepsy, they sometimes sever the corpus callosum, which joins the two halves of the brain. This limits seizures, but it also has a really interesting side effect. Sperry did some incredible studies where he found that the communication between the two halves was totally limited. If you flashed an image to the left side of the brain, they could tell you what it was, but not draw it. The other way around, they could draw it but not say anything. For one experiment he flashed an image of a naked lady to the right brain. The participants in the study all started laughing, but couldn't tell him why :lol: ohhh the brain is incredible :D

Soooooo awesome! That would be such a cool field to be in. Then again... I don't envy all those additional variables in science on actual humans. 

 

Luckily, in Dragon Age, they can just handwave it with magic, I suppose. :D


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Well, he has said bigoted things about dwarves and qunari in the past, so I think the jury is still out on that with the five data points we have to extrapolate from. I think that's why Lola said human remains your safest bet.

 

Yeah, human because he fancied a human mage in the past. Plus, that's the same race as him so it would stand to reason that if he fancied a human in the past and is also a human then he'd find one attractive again. And female because, again, we know that he found women attractive in the past.

 

Of course, that's not a sure fired guarantee that he'll even want to romance a human and/or a female, but out of all the gender/race options available a human female is the safest bet (based on past actions) if you want to stand the highest chance of being able to romance him without a definite risk of failure. Obviously, he fancied an elven female too but we don't yet know how much he's changed in DAI, he could be more open minded... or (heaven forbid) more closed minded. 


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:shrug: From my *extensive* knowledge about amnesia from the movies and popular culture *cough*, it doesn't necessarily have to mean you don't know anything. I could be something like your long term memory is there, but it's the recent stuff you've lost. Like alzheimer patients. Because, you know, a wizard did it! :wizard:

Honestly, I hope it's something like that, that you're not quite sure you had a role in it. But I suspect, based on those quotes (e.g. Cam: Do they know I didn't cause the explosion?), that you know you didn't do it, and it's more a situation of you having to convince everyone else. :shrug: Makes for some interesting story telling!

Oh, if we're talking about the Breach event, I'd like this as well. I just want tha the background is known by the Inquisitor and that it has a relevance in the story.
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Just one thing he said to Oghren in DA:O, calling him a heathen. But, again, who knows. I might call Oghren a heathen, too :D

Heathen sounds better than "drunken jack@ss"! Cullen was being polite.

 

Also, I still have a wild secret pet theory that we find out at the end of the game we were part of the Big Bad all along but couldn't remember. This theory has no basis in logic or facts.  =]


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If he's using proper grammar, then he means Cullen WAS a templar! Meaning, he no longer is.


Not not necessarily. One can say that "was" in that context referring to how someone said something and it not indicate that the thing they "were" is no longer what they are.

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It makes me wonder what Cullen will think of the Inquisitor initially.

 

Will he think it's a bit suspect that we just happened to be at the peace gathering when it blew up and conveniently got sucked into the Fade leaving us as the sole survior? Will he think we're the "chosen one"? (Like I suspect Leliana will), or will he have no concerns either way and is more interested in closing the breach by any means necessary? I'd hope he'd at least be curious enough to ask us a few questions.


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