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I have been wondering something. What do you think Cullen will do after the Inquisition's job is done or if he got kicked out of the Inquisition for some reason? 

I would say he could work on rebuilding the templars and emphasizing their codes on how to treat mages.

Mr. Inquisitor.  :D


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Mr. Inquisitor.  :D

I see what you did there ;)


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We're ostensibly the leader, but initially, I could see us being at least intended to be more of a figurehead. I mean, it's not like we're democratically elected or we earned the position, you know?  We're probably being used for our special Fade hand. Heck, maybe that's why we have pillars to help us "run" the Inquisition. I  mean, it's a pretty big jump to go from Cassandra considering you the only threat she sees to letting you lead the whole organization. So anyway, it's a conundrum I've been considering.

  

I would LOVE to see this. 
 
But you know... I always sorta figured Cass for being the practical sort. That she believes in the Chantry and Maker, but when it comes down to it, she's about getting sh!t done. I was sort of intrigued by her being called 'the Believer' in those twitter reveals.

I think that we might be put at the head after we somehow demonstrate the ability to close the tears. I don't think Cassandra would have much problem with handing the power. She cares more about stopping threats then who is in charge, in my opinion.
As for the PC, I think we'll have full power on doing whatever we want (though Cass and the advisors will help in leading the Inquisition). I don't really care one way or another, but It'd be a huge marketing mistake to say all the times that we have full control, we lead the Inquisition (from the start, as they always said), etc. and then people Discover we're just a figurehead at first.
On the Cullen's label, I'd love the Fallen, for personal reason (I have for years years a story with a protagonist that he's a 'Fallen' that I should probably write Someday).

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I have been wondering something. What do you think Cullen will do after the Inquisition's job is done or if he got kicked out of the Inquisition for some reason? 

I would say he could work on rebuilding the templars and emphasizing their codes on how to treat mages.

More seriously, I think we know too little about the state of the Templar Order and of Cullen's affiliations to know what might need doing after the Inquisition does its thing. But, I could see something like him trying to be part of a solution for mages, in whatever form that might take. I always figure he's not terribly keen on the notion of mages running about completely free and unmanaged, but who knows where that situation will be during or after the game.


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I have been wondering something. What do you think Cullen will do after the Inquisition's job is done or if he got kicked out of the Inquisition for some reason? 

I would say he could work on rebuilding the templars and emphasizing their codes on how to treat mages.

He's going to disappear with the inquisitor and never be seen again  -_-


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   I think that we might be put at the head after we somehow demonstrate the ability to close the tears. I don't think Cassandra would have much problem with handing the power. She cares more about stopping threats then who is in charge, in my opinion.
As for the PC, I think we'll have full power on doing whatever we want (though Cass and the advisors will help in leading the Inquisition). I don't really care one way or another, but It'd be a huge marketing mistake to say all the times that we have full control, we lead the Inquisition (from the start, as they always said), etc. and then people Discover we're just a figurehead at first.
On the Cullen's label, I'd love the Fallen, for personal reason (I have for years years a story with a protagonist that he's a 'Fallen' that I should probably write Someday).

Yeah, that's why I call it a conundrum, because obviously we'll actually be the one running the organization. But why?? I mean why hand power over to us, "the only threat [Cass] sees"?  I'm sure there will be a good reason. I just don't think it's been explained yet. 



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More seriously, I think we know too little about the state of the Templar Order and of Cullen's affiliations to know what might need doing after the Inquisition does its thing. But, I could see something like him trying to be part of a solution for mages, in whatever form that might take. I always figure he's not terribly keen on the notion of mages running about completely free and unmanaged, but who knows where that situation will be during or after the game.

 

I think it also depends on how he feels about fighting in general these days. If he's battle weary he may have completely had enough of the Templar Order and the mage/templar fighting. Obviously he's still our military advisor, but as the leader he doesn't have to be in the thick of it constantly.


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More seriously, I think we know too little about the state of the Templar Order and of Cullen's affiliations to know what might need doing after the Inquisition does its thing. But, I could see something like him trying to be part of a solution for mages, in whatever form that might take. I always figure he's not terribly keen on the notion of mages running about completely free and unmanaged, but who knows where that situation will be during or after the game.

Yea, it would be very stange if they pulled a Thrask on him. I do not see him as the type to completely let go of what happened in the Broken Circle event. It would be irrational if he gave mages that much freedom after seeing what they are capable of.


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I think it also depends on how he feels about fighting in general these days. If he's battle weary he may have completely had enough of the Templar Order and the mage/templar fighting. Obviously he's still our military advisor, but as the leader he doesn't have to be in the thick of it constantly.

"F*ck this, I'm going to Thedosian Disneyland!"  :lol:


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It also makes me wonder if he'd still be inclined to want to rejoin the Templars or put all the mages back in the circle if he romances a mage himself? I'm not saying that all the magical sex cures him of his head mess surrounding the issue, but if he's willing to get into a relationship with a mage (since it doesn't seem class-gated) then there has to have been some sort of progress surrounding his attitude towards them?


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Yeah, that's why I call it a conundrum, because obviously we'll actually be the one running the organization. But why?? I mean why hand power over to us, "the only thread [Cass] sees"? I'm sure there will be a good reason. I just don't think it's been explained yet.

I guess it'a the fact that Cass can't afford to lose the Inquisitor. She can threaten him to do what she says, but the Inquisitor can easily say 'Yeah, what we you going to do? Lock me up? Kill me? Good luck in closing the Breach then :whistle: '.
The Inquisitor is literally the only one who can resolve this threat. Cassandra isn't in a good position. Beside, as I said, I think she's more interesting i stopping the Breach then anything else, so I can see her accepting the leadership of the PC for the greater good.
That doesn't mean there might not be problems between the two.

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It also makes me wonder if he'd still be inclined to want to rejoin the Templars or put all the mages back in the circle if he romances a mage himself? I'm not saying that all the magical sex cures him of his head mess surrounding the issue, but if he's willing to get into a relationship with a mage (since it doesn't seem class-gated) then there has to have been some sort of progress surrounding his attitude towards them?


I think It'd depend on the Circle system. I think he might not support the former one.

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Aw, I liked my "The Adrift" title.


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I think It'd depend on the Circle system. I think he might not support the former one.

I think I remember if your mage warden gives the Circle some liberties with the boon from the King/Queen he goes crazy and kills a bunch of mages? (Not sure if this is retconned) That being said, when I think of that I believe he would support former Circle as well.



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Aw, I liked my "The Adrift" title.


I like it as well. I just prefer the Fallen more, for personal reasons ;).

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I mean, this was the guy who has a history of having feelings for a mage (if you played one) and he stayed strong enough to not go there, even if you offer it to him on a plate. Granted, he has his reasons for not shagging/getting into a relationship with her (be it due to the rules or whatever), but he also got tortured by blood mages and was relatively hard-lined for the most part of DA2. 

 

What is it that pushes him to the point where he thinks: "f*ck it, I want to be with her/him. Who cares if she/he is a mage!" He must have gone through some sort of eureka moment either before or during DAI, even if it's just surrounding a mage Inquisitor. Perhaps the battle wearyness plays a part in that?


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It also makes me wonder if he'd still be inclined to want to rejoin the Templars or put all the mages back in the circle if he romances a mage himself? I'm not saying that all the magical sex cures him of his head mess surrounding the issue, but if he's willing to get into a relationship with a mage (since it doesn't seem class-gated) then there has to have been some sort of progress surrounding his attitude towards them?

 

I would hope he'd still support the Circles and the idea of what the Templars should be, but in a way that... Hmm...

 

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I mean, this was the guy who has a history of having feelings for a mage (if you played one) and he stayed strong enough to not go there, even if you offer it to him on a plate. Granted, he has his reasons for not shagging/getting into a relationship with her (be it due to the rules or whatever), but he also got tortured by blood mages and was relatively hard-lined for the most part of DA2. 

 

What is it that pushes him to the point where he thinks: "f*ck it, I want to be with her/him. Who cares if she/he is a mage!" He must have gone through some sort of eureka moment either before or during DAI, even if it's just surrounding a mage Inquisitor. Perhaps the battle wearyness plays a part in that?

It could just be because he's no longer a templar and duty no longer gets in the way.


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I think I remember if your mage warden gives the Circle some liberties with the boon from the King/Queen he goes crazy and kills a bunch of mages? (Not sure if this is retconned) That being said, when I think of that I believe he would support former Circle as well.

It'a retconnetted, yes.
I think he might've changed his view becuase of what happened in Kirkwall. His views after TBC/DA2 were a direct result of what happens in Origins. What happened in Kirkwall might lead to another character development.

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I think I remember if your mage warden gives the Circle some liberties with the boon from the King/Queen he goes crazy and kills a bunch of mages? (Not sure if this is retconned) That being said, when I think of that I believe he would support former Circle as well.

 

Yeah, they retconned it.



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It could just be because he's no longer a templar and duty no longer gets in the way.

 

I would've presumed that too, if he hadn't been tortured and subsequently been so "rawr" about them in DA2. Personally, I'd find that a bit of a cop-out if he was like "well, I'm not a Templar anymore so get your kit off!" 



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It'a retconnetted, yes.
I think he might've changed his view becuase of what happened in Kirkwall. His views after TBC/DA2 were a direct result of what happens in Origins. What happened in Kirkwall might lead to another character development.

 

 

Yeah, they retconned it.

Okay! I thought as much.

 

I also think he would change his views after Kirkwall fiasco. Clearly, he wasn't willing to let Meredith slaughter people he thought were innocent and didn't support her incredibly crazy all mages are evil, die policy.


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It also makes me wonder if he'd still be inclined to want to rejoin the Templars or put all the mages back in the circle if he romances a mage himself? I'm not saying that all the magical sex cures him of his head mess surrounding the issue, but if he's willing to get into a relationship with a mage (since it doesn't seem class-gated) then there has to have been some sort of progress surrounding his attitude towards them?

When you talked about magical sex all I could think of was Anders and Isabela where she talks about that shock thing he does. I would love it if mages got that kind of dialogue when you romance him and loosen him up :lol:

 

Though it would be kind of unique if mages got certain dialogue from Cullen romance or not.


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I think I remember if your mage warden gives the Circle some liberties with the boon from the King/Queen he goes crazy and kills a bunch of mages? (Not sure if this is retconned) That being said, when I think of that I believe he would support former Circle as well.

This one is definitely retconned same the other one where the warden sides with the templars,in which he becomes knight commander of the Fereldan circle after Gregoir,he wouldn't be knight-captain in DA2 otherwise.
I think Cullen has evolved a lot since DAO and the incident in Kirkwall he will evolve even further as a character,so his views in DAI about the circle might be different.



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I guess it'a the fact that Cass can't afford to lose the Inquisitor. She can threaten him to do what she says, but the Inquisitor can easily say 'Yeah, what we you going to do? Lock me up? Kill me? Good luck in closing the Breach then :whistle: '.
The Inquisitor is literally the only one who can resolve this threat. Cassandra isn't in a good position. Beside, as I said, I think she's more interesting i stopping the Breach then anything else, so I can see her accepting the leadership of the PC for the greater good.
That doesn't mean there might not be problems between the two.

Right. But the situation you're describing sounds to me exactly like the Inquisitor being a figurehead, and not a leader in truth. See my point? Putting someone at the head of your organization just to keep on an eye on them, or because they blackmailed you into it, is not exactly placing a lot of faith in someone to make decisions on your behalf. 

 

Maybe we'll eventually have to earn that trust and that's what the devs have been talking about in us building up the Inquisition? Perhaps we're even building trust with our closest allies?