I would've presumed that too, if he hadn't been tortured and subsequently been so "rawr" about them in DA2. Personally, I'd find that a bit of a cop-out if he was like "well, I'm not a Templar anymore so get your kit off!"
Maybe he's come to believe that, since the templars have clearly come to nothing, anything might be worth trying at least once, if there's a chance of it leading somewhere good?
It also makes me wonder if he'd still be inclined to want to rejoin the Templars or put all the mages back in the circle if he romances a mage himself? I'm not saying that all the magical sex cures him of his head mess surrounding the issue, but if he's willing to get into a relationship with a mage (since it doesn't seem class-gated) then there has to have been some sort of progress surrounding his attitude towards them?
Hmm, I dunno. I'd think that, independent of his PTSD or his personal feelings toward an individual mage, he seems to acknowledge that mages have powers that can cause problems. I could definitely see his opinions evolving, but I'd be surprised if he suddenly decided to ignore the dangers of magic. But time will tell.
Well, I don't think Cass will completely trust our leading skills, Indeed. If we're talking about Cassandra trusting your leadership for the start, then I don't see this happening.Right. But the situation you're describing sounds to me exactly like the Inquisitor being a figurehead, and not a leader in truth. See my point? Putting someone at the head of your organization just to keep on an eye on them, or because they blackmailed you into it, is not exactly placing a lot of faith in someone to make decisions on your behalf.
Maybe we'll eventually have to earn that trust and that's what the devs have been talking about in us building up the Inquisition? Perhaps we're even building trust with our closest allies?
I would've presumed that too, if he hadn't been tortured and subsequently been so "rawr" about them in DA2. Personally, I'd find that a bit of a cop-out if he was like "well, I'm not a Templar anymore so get your kit off!"
I can't help but think that a lot of the issue was the power differential and all the reasons why fraternization is bad within the Circle. But if you don't have power over that individual and you can trust that person to control him/herself, then why not trust and engage with them romantically?
I just question whether he'd then extend that trust to every mage ever born everywhere. Would he ever come to a point where he thinks mages should never be interfered with by anyone? Discuss. 
Maybe he's come to believe that, since the templars have clearly come to nothing, anything might be worth trying at least once, if there's a chance of it leading somewhere good?
That's more tolerable... He could certainly stand to loosen up a bit.
Well, I don't think Cass will completely trust our leading skills, Indeed. If we're talking about Cassandra trusting your leadership for the start, then I don't see this happening.
What I was talking about is more about the PC having full decisional power. Meaning that he's the one Calling the shots, regardless of what Cassandra could say For 'figurehead' I mean someone who doesn't have decisional power.
Yes. Technically the player will be calling the shots... which is why I don't think it make sense yet. 
I can't help but think that a lot of the issue was the power differential and all the reasons why fraternization is bad within the Circle. But if you don't have power over that individual and you can trust that person to control him/herself, then why not trust and engage with them romantically?
I just question whether he'd then extend that trust to every mage ever born everywhere. Would he ever come to a point where he thinks mages should never be interfered with by anyone? DIscuss.
I suppose it would also depending on how brainwashed he was by the Chantry/Templar propaganda. Clearly not as much as I thought if he'll actually romance a mage.
Yes. Technically the player will be calling the shots... which is why I don't think it make sense yet.
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I suppose it would also depending on how brainwashed he was by the Chantry/Templar propaganda. Clearly not as much as I thought if he'll actually romance a mage.
True. And his own propaganda: "mages cannot be our friends!" 
I suppose it would also depending on how brainwashed he was by the Chantry/Templar propaganda. Clearly not as much as I thought if he'll actually romance a mage.
But anyway, that's another reason why I want to play as a mage because I want to see how he reasons out his decision to romance one. Will he struggle with his feelings initially? Will it add an extra layer/dialogue to the situation? Will he be totally cool with it? Is he gonna expect my Inquisitor to side with the Templars or help him rebuild something similar? Does he expect me to join a circle when the Fade breach is fixed? Will he be happy staying within the Inquisition under the lead of a mage? Etc.
True. And his own propaganda: "mages cannot be our friends!"
That too! What leads him to go from: "mages cannot be our friends, they're not like you and me" (or whatever his exact words were) to "omg, I'm falling for this mage. I can't handle the thought of not being with her/him so f*ck the Templars, f*ck my beliefs/past beliefs I'm all in!"
... It just seems like something that would be quite a big deal. Even if you don't romance him as a mage/at all, he's still working along side mages in our team so I'm intrigued to see how and why things have changed for him to be/eventually be more relaxed about the situation.
Writing some banter between Cullen, Varric, and maybe another companion. Anyone got any ideas for a nickname? I seriously have no idea what Varric would call him. Could use some suggestions for inspiration.
Also, I kinda want Dorian to perv on him and tell me I have excellent physical taste, Templar issues aside!
Please let this happen. It would be delicious. 
Writing some banter between Cullen, Varric, and maybe another companion. Anyone got any ideas for a nickname? I seriously have no idea what Varric would call him. Could use some suggestions for inspiration.
Seeing Varric calls Cass 'Seeker', I'm kind of expecting him to just call Cullen 'Templar' or something. *rubs chin*
Writing some banter between Cullen, Varric, and maybe another companion. Anyone got any ideas for a nickname? I seriously have no idea what Varric would call him. Could use some suggestions for inspiration.
I usually use "templar" particularly if Cullen isn't one anymore. Otherwise maybe a physical characteristic? Blondie. Curls. Shoulders. Frowny. Something about his faith. Flames. Andraste boy. Chantry boy.
I usually use "templar" particularly if Cullen isn't one anymore. Otherwise maybe a physical characteristic? Blondie. Curls. Shoulders. Frowny. Something about his faith. Flames. Andraste boy. Chantry boy.
What about "Enforcer"? Military Advisor has to be the type to make sure people are following orders.
Speaking of banter, I wonder if Morrigan will have anything to say about Cullen since they can be seen out with our Inquisitor at the same time? Especially if your Warden was a female mage and your Inquisitor is a mage courting/flirting with Cullen. My Amell romanced Alistair as well, so I could imagine comments like:
Morrigan: "What is it with mages and templars? You oppose each other and yet you're quick enough to lay with one another the minute the Chantry's back is turned."
Morrigan: "Ugh, not another mage going googly-eyed over a half-witted Templar."
Morrigan: "It seems you have quite the magic fetish, Ser Cullen"
Cullen: "W-what?!"
Morrigan: "You were once infatuated with a certain mage of the circle in your younger years, were you not?"
Cullen: "I, uh... that's ancient history! I was young, it was a foolish crush..."
Morrigan: "I bet it just killed you to learn of her involvement with another Templar"
Inquisitor: *SMACK DOWN!*
But anyway, that's another reason why I want to play as a mage because I want to see how he reasons out his decision to romance one. Will he struggle with his feelings initially? Will it add an extra layer/dialogue to the situation? Will he be totally cool with it? Is he gonna expect my Inquisitor to side with the Templars or help him rebuild something similar? Does he expect me to join a circle when the Fade breach is fixed? Will he be happy staying within the Inquisition under the lead of a mage? Etc.
I really hope these issues are addressed. Hell, the reason I so WANT to romance him as a mage (one who believes the circle needs some major pro-mage reform, at that) is because I hope to have that conversation. Actually i hope to have that conversation regardless of whether I'm a mage or romancing him, because the fact is we do work with three presumably very powerful mages with what I assume will be very different viewpoints (and, optionally, a Fade creature as well). I want his dealings with them to be significant.
I would be disappointed if a romance like this were easy, and if those things were glossed over. I want it to be a challenge, both for my character and for Cullen. Because that way it'll be so much more rewarding when/if we can make it work.
Speaking of banter, I wonder if Morrigan will have anything to say about Cullen since they can be seen out with our Inquisitor at the same time? Especially if your Warden was a female mage and your Inquisitor is a mage courting/flirting with Cullen. My Amell romanced Alistair as well, so I could imagine comments like:
Morrigan: "What is it with mages and templars? You oppose each other and yet you're quick enough to lay with one another the minute the Chantry's back is turned."
Morrigan: "Ugh, not another mage going googly-eyed over a half-witted Templar."
Morrigan: "It seems you have quite the magic fetish, Ser Cullen"
Cullen: "W-what?!"
Morrigan: "You were once infatuated with a certain mage of the circle in your younger years, were you not?"
Cullen: "I, uh... that's ancient history! I was young, it was a foolish crush..."
Morrigan: "I bet it just killed you to learn of her involvement with another Templar"
Inquisitor: *SMACK DOWN!*
I'm not sure Cullen would even be on Morrigan's radar to remember, though she might make a comment about mages and half-witted Templars if a mage romanced Alistair. She might just remember Cullen as 'the Templar in the pink cage'. 
I'm not sure Cullen would even be on Morrigan's radar to remember, though she might make a comment about mages and half-witted Templars if a mage romanced Alistair. She might just remember Cullen as 'the Templar in the pink cage'.
On the one hand, I want her to make some sort of snarky comment. But on the other hand I don't want the Amell/SuranaxCullen thing to be made a big deal of now that my Inquisitor can romance him.
I'm still trying to process the idea that what we saw at the end of DA2 with Cassandra and Leliana was actually the fledgling Inquisition!
Their armor was actually had Inquisition in it's name if I remember correctly from the mods.
Their armor was actually had Inquisition in it's name if I remember correctly from the mods.
That's intriguing. It's definitely the Seeker symbol on it though, but at that point when the game first came out we still knew next to nothing about Seekers in general.
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