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[Galagraphia]

Sleep.   Of course. That is exactly what I  was thinking, too...

I thought about bathing. Or the horse washing thing

[MacyNell]

I thought about bathing. Or the horse washing thing

 

Well.  Yes.  Excellent reasons to discard the armor.  I would support both quite enthusiastically.  

[TreeHuggerHannah]

I just question whether he'd then extend that trust to every mage ever born everywhere. Would he ever come to a point where he thinks mages should never be interfered with by anyone? Discuss.

 

I'm going to say no on that one - nor should he, in my opinion. Some mages are dangerous, whether by malicious intent or by weak will. Mages face temptations other people don't face and wield powers other people couldn't possibly wield. I don't think Cullen would ever forget that or decide it doesn't matter, especially since he's seen how wrong things can go.

 

I definitely think Cullen could come around to supporting a reformed circle system that is more protective than punitive; he's already made clear that's how he views the role of a templar anyway.

 

I just don't think letting all mages run completely free with no oversight or protection is something Cullen will ever endorse, even if his views on mages become more moderate. (Which I think they clearly already have, based on his DA2 ending dialog.) I just don't think taking a complete 180 into blind trust of mages would be a logical result of his experiences up to this point.

[BFace]

I'm curious about how Hawke's end choice (Templar vs. Mage) will affect how Cullen feels about it when we first meet him.  Only because his actions after the fight are very different. (Standing down vs. Kneeling to Hawke) 

 

Maybe not, because either way he makes it clear that he respects Hawke enough to let them leave.

 

I know this stuff has been talked to death, but until we have something else to obsess about...*sheepish smile*

[BioFan (Official)]

I don't really understand the rationale behind trying to control mages. Sure, some of them become maleficarum and commit acts of evil, but deprativty in Dragon Age does not fall soley within the purview of magic users.

 

OH MY GAWD. Morrigan stopped by our thread! *fans self*

[Twilight_Princess]

OH MY GAWD. Morrigan stopped by our thread! *fans self*

 

You mean swooped by our thread ^_0

[Phate Phoenix]

I'm going to say no on that one - nor should he, in my opinion. Some mages are dangerous, whether by malicious intent or by weak will. Mages face temptations other people don't face and wield powers other people couldn't possibly wield. I don't think Cullen would ever forget that or decide it doesn't matter, especially since he's seen how wrong things can go.

 

I definitely think Cullen could come around to supporting a reformed circle system that is more protective than punitive; he's already made clear that's how he views the role of a templar anyway.

 

I just don't think letting all mages run completely free with no oversight or protection is something Cullen will ever endorse, even if his views on mages become more moderate. (Which I think they clearly already have, based on his DA2 ending dialog.) I just don't think taking a complete 180 into blind trust of mages would be a logical result of his experiences up to this point.

 

Agreed. I do not think Cullen would ever truly support a system where mages are free from all supervision. I think that he could eventually come around to reformed Circle, where mages have more freedom than before, and perhaps even supports such a reform now, but never one without some level of oversight. A protection-and-teaching based system vs a jail-esque system.

 

 

I'm curious about how Hawke's end choice (Templar vs. Mage) will affect how Cullen feels about it when we first meet him.  Only because his actions after the fight are very different. (Standing down vs. Kneeling to Hawke) 

 

Maybe not, because either way he makes it clear that he respects Hawke enough to let them leave.

 

I know this stuff has been talked to death, but until we have something else to obsess about...*sheepish smile*

 

I've wondered if how Cullen responds to a mage Inquisitor, or to mage discussions, will depend on how Hawke resolved the Kirkwall's mage issue. Like, if Hawke was pro-Templar and killed the possible blood mages, Cullen might actually be more lenient towards mages. But if Hawke was pro-mage, then Cullen would be more strict. It couldn't be a major difference, but, perhaps the Inquisitor would have an easier time convincing Cullen of things.

[Mellora]

*sneak in*

 

 

Bonus and warning : FLUFF !!

 

Spoiler

 

 

Rainy days are veeeery inspiring.

 

*sneak out*

[MacyNell]

I'm curious about how Hawke's end choice (Templar vs. Mage) will affect how Cullen feels about it when we first meet him.  Only because his actions after the fight are very different. (Standing down vs. Kneeling to Hawke) 

 

Maybe not, because either way he makes it clear that he respects Hawke enough to let them leave.

 

I know this stuff has been talked to death, but until we have something else to obsess about...*sheepish smile*

 

I never made it all the way through a pro-templar play-through, so I never had the pleasure of his kneeling to me.  If I had, I probably would've told my party to go on without me while I hung out in Kirkwall a bit longer, damn the consequences!  ​ Seriously, it's going to be interesting, for sure, to see how those decisions I made so rashly in DA2 effect my circumstances in DA:I, especially in regards to Cullen.  Hopefully I won't end up regretting anything...but that's probably overly optimistic. 

[BFace]

I never made it all the way through a pro-templar play-through, so I never had the pleasure of his kneeling to me.  If I had, I probably would've told my party to go on without me while I hung out in Kirkwall a bit long, damn the consequences!  ​ Seriously, it's going to be interesting, for sure, to see how those decisions I made so rashly in DA2 effect my circumstances in DA:I, especially in regards to Cullen.  Hopefully I won't end up regretting anything...but that's probably overly optimistic. 

Well, if you had finished protemplar, and gotten the kneel-you would have stayed in Kirkwall. Protemplar Hawke becomes Viscount.

[MacyNell]

*sneak in*

 

 

Bonus and warning : FLUFF !!

 

Spoiler

 

 

Rainy days are veeeery inspiring.

 

*sneak out*

 

 *prays for more rain* 

[VampOrchid]

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Bonus and warning : FLUFF !!

Spoiler

Rainy days are veeeery inspiring.

*sneak out*

Oooh Cullen protecting injured Inq...ohh n bonus fluff. You know these are both super gorgeous!!!!

[MacyNell]

Well, if you had finished protemplar, and gotten the kneel-you would have stayed in Kirkwall. Protemplar Hawke becomes Viscount.

 

Well, there you go. *sigh* I truly had emotional difficulty NOT supporting the mages.  It just went against my nature so much, and I guess I'm one of those players who can't step completely outside herself when playing these types of games.  Idk.  While hanging out here and learning of other peoples' varied experiences, I've often regretted my inability to play through all the variables.  It might be easier if I try it now, so maybe I will give it a go this summer. 

[BFace]

Well, there you go. *sigh* I truly had emotional difficulty NOT supporting the mages.  It just went against my nature so much, and I guess I'm one of those players who can't step completely outside herself when playing these types of games.  Idk.  While hanging out here and learning of other peoples' varied experiences, I've often regretted my inability to play through all the variables.  It might be easier if I try it now, so maybe I will give it a go this summer. 

Or just watch it on Youtube. That's the only way I've seen many things to do with these games. (Like who gives Fenris back!?! Who does that?!)

[Lorien19]

Or just watch it on Youtube. That's the only way I've seen many things to do with these games. (Like who gives Fenris back!?! Who does that?!)

I never give Fneris back!Like never!

[badatnames]

I totally agree. I was quite dissapointed that Morrigan wasn't in DA2 at all. To see her storyline resolved (hopefully) is one of the reasons why I am so much looking forward to DAI - well, and to romance Cullen, of course .

 

It would be funny if Morrigan's ritual was responsible for the veil tearing. Upsetting the old gods or whatnot. But then again I'm not sure if it's Bioware canon to do the ritual and how they would solve it for those who didn't do it, so I just hope we'll learn as much as possible about her time after the Blight. 

Funny. Or awkward.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

True. And his own propaganda: "mages cannot be our friends!" 

 

To me, this seems like a necessary attitude for an active templar, actually.

 

Giving a real life personal example here: My residents can never be my friends. 

 

They're fantastic kids. We have a lot of fun. I care deeply about them. I invest a tremendous amount of my time and physical and mental energy into doing what's best for them. I'd take a bullet for any of them, without hesitation.

 

We're not friends, though. I'm here to provide counseling and keep them safe, not to act like a peer. It would be a major violation of boundaries and I would not be able to serve them the way it's my job to serve them. Saying we aren't friends isn't at all an indictment of the appropriate relationship we do have.

 

Likewise, a templar would have to preserve boundaries, too. Be friendly with the mages, absolutely, but that's a bit different than being friends.

 

The situation would of course be different if the mage was not directly under the templar's charge, but that wouldn't have been the case for Cullen in Kirkwall.

 

Not to say Cullen doesn't have any issues in that department. He does. I just don't think the statement itself is that bad.

[Rhea]

I never give Fneris back!Like never!

 

Me neither. Poor Fenris. 

 

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Or just watch it on Youtube. That's the only way I've seen many things to do with these games. (Like who gives Fenris back!?! Who does that?!)

 

My cousin gave Fenris back by accident because he thought "Take him, he's yours!" meant giving Fenris permission to kill Danarius.

[Lorien19]

Me neither. Poor Fenris. 

 

Even the video breaks my heart! 

[MacyNell]

Or just watch it on Youtube. That's the only way I've seen many things to do with these games. (Like who gives Fenris back!?! Who does that?!)

 

Yeah, I've done that with a lot of things I never had in my play-throughs, so I know what the dialogue is and whatnot, but it seems like it might be more significant if it's my character progressing through the events.   It would be a challenge for the ol' psyche to embrace a character who is committed to the pro-templar side.

 

OTOH, the giving Fenris back thing?  No way I'd want my Hawke to be that person, so you're totally spot on there! 

[Potato Cat]

Me neither. Poor Fenris. 
 

See now why would you post that? You know Curry Art's going to cut you now!

[Liadan]

*sneak in*

 

 

Bonus and warning : FLUFF !!

 

Spoiler

 

 

Rainy days are veeeery inspiring.

 

*sneak out*

Defensor Cullen looks so sexy ! And the bonus  !