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[ChachiBobinks]

Exactly, every one is entitled the their opinions, their likes and dislikes.  But so many of these threads end up being a defend your reasons for liking/hating such and such. When really there is no need, its no body elses business but yours and whether you like someone or not has no effect on how their game is going to be played out.

The devs put in who they like and who THEY feel will add to the game and all this, they are just put in for fan service, is a load of Griffon droppings.

What it really boils down to is I don't like this person and I don't want him in my team, so he has no right to be in the game.

 

Couldn't have said it better m'self.

 

Not gonna lie - I expected sparkly text and rampant fangirling when I came here. Having participated in the Twitter hashtagging, where we are, perhaps, slightly rabid, I didn't expect such an engaging conversation. You all are seriously awesome and I love how we discuss theory and game history in addition to all of the Cullen love. I've learned so much about my favorite series since I've started lurking.

 

So, basically, these jerkfaces have no clue what they're missing out on.

[ChachiBobinks]

I'll be honest I don't pay much attention to those threads and it's fine if some of you guys do, but the only line I remember reading that really set me off was
"Why do people like Cullen?" And someone's response was "Eh because they're women, they like anything." That is such a chauvinistic, back handed, dismissive and disgusting way to look at it. Even if he was joking that poster said so much about his personal character. It really irritated me and sort of struck me to the core about how unfair some men are when it comes to things like YOU women expressing personal opinions and preferences! GASP! And that because you are women those opinions are inherently wrong and that you aren't intelligent enough to realize you are wasting energy on liking something stupid!

People man. Sometimes. I am kinda ashamed to admit this but I do hope he is a companion not only because I really hope for it....but also so everyone saying he is nothing but a fan service NPC who has no chance of getting in is proven wrong.....

But on a WAY more positive note I really hope tomorrow we get a follower Friday. I'd imagine you all already know who I hope it is, but really I'm excited to see any one

 

Uhhh, what?!

 

Lemme at 'em. I'll put them in their place. Shortly after, what, putting on my shoes and getting out of the freaking kitchen?!

[Lorien19]

So big thanks to Chachi vas BoBinks who edited this letter.
I am sorry!
Don't read if you can't stand Cullen shipped with non PC.

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Serah,

Thank you for your letter. I have meant to write you for a long time. As you know, the work at the library has taken up all my time ever since my two tranquil helpers were killed in that extraordinary magical accident. We have come to the conclusion it must have been an old artifact - one with a magical ward - and it reacted to the red lyrium we have studied. The residue was very interesting; I've never seen the likes of it before. It must have been a very old magic, indeed. I have had visitors come all the way from Tevinter to study the artifact. It’s all very exciting, really.

As for your inquiry about a certain Knight-Captain Cullen, I can indeed tell you what you need to know. He must have been with us for at least 7 years, having originally came from Kinloch Hold and the Circle of Ferelden. Apparently he was one of few surviving Templars after the Circle “incident." They say he was reallocated because he was showing signs of too much distrust and aggression towards the Mages. The Ferelden circle was always seen as more lenient, and so that was frowned upon.

I remember Knight-Commander Meredith taking an immediate interest in the young man. They spent a lot of time discussing the events in Ferelden. Cullen and Meredith seemed to have similar views on what the Order was all about.

He was considered skillful and had the correct attitude that was sought after here in Kirkwall. All junior Templars looked up to him and he was well respected. As a result, he was quickly promoted several times in succession.

There were rumors, of course.

I will now tell you the truth: these are not rumors at all. The Knight-Commander and the Knight-Captain started a liaison that turned into one of romantic nature. Meredith was fascinated by the young man in question and Cullen seemed to adore her as a role model and a woman.

I understand that at some point, the other Templars in leading command started to keep him out of the loop about ongoing issues at the Circle. They stopped reporting anything except mundane daily chores. The Mages were treated extremely harshly and a lot of systematic abuse was never reported to the Knight-Captain or the Commander. Meredith and Cullen also seemed to isolate themselves, and thus never found out about the disturbing situation at the Circle. Cullen was trying to protect Meredith and the Templars in command were trying to keep their cruelty a secret. Had he been aware, I have no doubt Cullen would have put a stop to it immediately.

To make matters worse, First Enchanter Orsino was one of the few who were aware of the nature of their relationship. He became increasingly jealous. Meredith and Orsino had been an item before Cullen arrived in Kirkwall. To spite her, the First Enchanter argued with the Knight-Commander at every opportunity he got. They even had several clashes in public. The tension between the zealous Templars and the Mages grew because of that.

I can’t really fault the Knight-Captain completely for the end result. Remembering the events of my youth, I know young love can turn into a blind passion. I believe that he was either unable to recognize the signs of her growing insanity, or he did not want to see and believe. Love is blind. As her second-in-command, he was the one closest to her and he went out of his way to hide it from others. He was in doubt, though. I once overheard him tell someone that he was unsure if Meredith and the Order were any longer one and the same.

After the Kirkwall “incident,” he spent some time here at the Gallows, helping to rebuild. So much destruction and distrust still remained. I think the poor man was going through a lot of soul-searching and he showed signs of depression. Many of us did as well. But remember, this man had been in the thick of it on two catastrophic occasions. He truly believes in the Order and is a devote Andrastian. He has also seen the worst of both Mages and Templars.

After the Seekers came to visit us, the Knight-Captain was reassigned. I can assure you he is a good man - a good man who has been unfortunate enough to be part of extreme situations. But he has pulled through and in the end, shown strength, duty, and honor.

Regards,
André

Ooooh,Scandalous!

[meanieweenie]

 Folks start waxing eloquent about why someone else (namely the predominantly female, probably mindless, folk they imagine are his fans) might like a character, and it goes down hill from there pretty quick. 

This always makes me giggle... knowing how many in this thread are actually highly intelligent, educated professionals. We're talking bona fide scientists, teachers, mental health professionals, etc. Probably the same people who they'll be looking at to save them when the zombie apocalypse comes. 

[LolaLei]

Or in other words, Cullen being a love interest is a gift. Unfortunately, some people will use that as an excuse into indulge in the G.I.F.T.

 

I guess so. I'd definitely say we've been fortunate that they decided to make him an LI for those people who want to romance him.

 

Of course, if he turns out to be a romanceable NPC I'll still be a little disappointed because (for me personally) romancing him is only a small part of what interests me. The biggest thing was that I wanted to take him out into the world and experience the different thoughts/reactions he has to things since he's served in the Order for so long that it's likely narrowed his mind, lol.

[LolaLei]

This always makes me giggle... knowing how many in this thread are actually highly intelligent, educated professionals. We're talking bona fide scientists, teachers, mental health professionals, etc. Probably the same people who they'll be looking at to save them when the zombie apocalypse comes. 

 

Balls to that, they can shamble on with their bad selfs.         

[Phate Phoenix]

I guess so. I'd definitely say we've been fortunate that they decided to make him an LI for those people who want to romance him.

 

Of course, if he turns out to be a romanceable NPC I'll still be a little disappointed because (for me personally) romancing him is only a small part of what interests me. The biggest thing was that I wanted to take him out into the world and experience the different thoughts/reactions he has to things since he's served in the Order for so long that it's likely narrowed his mind, lol.

 

Yes, this is how I feel. As a romance, we get to experience Cullen emotionally. We get to learn about how he feels, how his personality is, how he takes flirting, how he reacts to being in love. And these are all fascinating parts of his character and I am overjoyed that we get to do that. But, I also want to know how he reacts under pressure of combat. Is he pragmatic, leave some to die so others might live? Or is he idealistic, still, after everything? Does conflict with blood mages bring out the worst in him? Do Red Templars? Does he associate red templars with Meredith? Does he warn them of the dangers?

 

As I said, getting even half of that is... honestly, more than I expected. How did Wrex put it? Better than I feared, worse than I hoped. I am content with this. But I am human, and thus, I want more. 

[R2s Muse]

Balls to that, they can shamble on with their bad selfs.         

LOL Somehow this needs to be a thing. "Shamble on!"   

[Lorien19]

Yes, this is how I feel. As a romance, we get to experience Cullen emotionally. We get to learn about how he feels, how his personality is, how he takes flirting, how he reacts to being in love. And these are all fascinating parts of his character and I am overjoyed that we get to do that. But, I also want to know how he reacts under pressure of combat. Is he pragmatic, leave some to die so others might live? Or is he idealistic, still, after everything? Does conflict with blood mages bring out the worst in him? Do Red Templars? Does he associate red templars with Meredith? Does he warn them of the dangers?

 

As I said, getting even half of that is... honestly, more than I expected. How did Wrex put it? Better than I feared, worse than I hoped. I am content with this. But I am human, and thus, I want more. 

I agree,romance is nice and all but I believe that you truly get the opportunity to know a character when he/she's a companion...Still as far as I'm concerned,I find no room for negativeness in the current situation,Cullen's in,he probably has a big part and he's a LI,this is much more than I expected!

[xxKitRosalin]

Uhhh, what?!
 
Lemme at 'em. I'll put them in their place. Shortly after, what, putting on my shoes and getting out of the freaking kitchen?!

I figured it was because this guy is pissed that Cullen is getting all of the attention from ladies and he isn't. Henceforth, jealousy ensues.... Seems the most logical answer... Still, it is unwarranted to make such a nonchalant remark... *shrugs*

[Reaverwind]

So big thanks to Chachi vas BoBinks who edited this letter.
I am sorry!
Don't read if you can't stand Cullen shipped with non PC.

Spoiler

Serah,

Thank you for your letter. I have meant to write you for a long time. As you know, the work at the library has taken up all my time ever since my two tranquil helpers were killed in that extraordinary magical accident. We have come to the conclusion it must have been an old artifact - one with a magical ward - and it reacted to the red lyrium we have studied. The residue was very interesting; I've never seen the likes of it before. It must have been a very old magic, indeed. I have had visitors come all the way from Tevinter to study the artifact. It’s all very exciting, really.

As for your inquiry about a certain Knight-Captain Cullen, I can indeed tell you what you need to know. He must have been with us for at least 7 years, having originally came from Kinloch Hold and the Circle of Ferelden. Apparently he was one of few surviving Templars after the Circle “incident." They say he was reallocated because he was showing signs of too much distrust and aggression towards the Mages. The Ferelden circle was always seen as more lenient, and so that was frowned upon.

I remember Knight-Commander Meredith taking an immediate interest in the young man. They spent a lot of time discussing the events in Ferelden. Cullen and Meredith seemed to have similar views on what the Order was all about.

He was considered skillful and had the correct attitude that was sought after here in Kirkwall. All junior Templars looked up to him and he was well respected. As a result, he was quickly promoted several times in succession.

There were rumors, of course.

I will now tell you the truth: these are not rumors at all. The Knight-Commander and the Knight-Captain started a liaison that turned into one of romantic nature. Meredith was fascinated by the young man in question and Cullen seemed to adore her as a role model and a woman.

I understand that at some point, the other Templars in leading command started to keep him out of the loop about ongoing issues at the Circle. They stopped reporting anything except mundane daily chores. The Mages were treated extremely harshly and a lot of systematic abuse was never reported to the Knight-Captain or the Commander. Meredith and Cullen also seemed to isolate themselves, and thus never found out about the disturbing situation at the Circle. Cullen was trying to protect Meredith and the Templars in command were trying to keep their cruelty a secret. Had he been aware, I have no doubt Cullen would have put a stop to it immediately.

To make matters worse, First Enchanter Orsino was one of the few who were aware of the nature of their relationship. He became increasingly jealous. Meredith and Orsino had been an item before Cullen arrived in Kirkwall. To spite her, the First Enchanter argued with the Knight-Commander at every opportunity he got. They even had several clashes in public. The tension between the zealous Templars and the Mages grew because of that.

I can’t really fault the Knight-Captain completely for the end result. Remembering the events of my youth, I know young love can turn into a blind passion. I believe that he was either unable to recognize the signs of her growing insanity, or he did not want to see and believe. Love is blind. As her second-in-command, he was the one closest to her and he went out of his way to hide it from others. He was in doubt, though. I once overheard him tell someone that he was unsure if Meredith and the Order were any longer one and the same.

After the Kirkwall “incident,” he spent some time here at the Gallows, helping to rebuild. So much destruction and distrust still remained. I think the poor man was going through a lot of soul-searching and he showed signs of depression. Many of us did as well. But remember, this man had been in the thick of it on two catastrophic occasions. He truly believes in the Order and is a devote Andrastian. He has also seen the worst of both Mages and Templars.

After the Seekers came to visit us, the Knight-Captain was reassigned. I can assure you he is a good man - a good man who has been unfortunate enough to be part of extreme situations. But he has pulled through and in the end, shown strength, duty, and honor.

Regards,
André

 

Wait, what, so the whole mess happened because

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of a love triangle? Sheesh - it's time the Order reviewed its policy on romantic entanglements.   

 

[Phate Phoenix]

Oh man, I just realized that whoever is the object of Follower Friday gets an in-game screenshot.

 

[INCOHERENT WHIMPERING]

[LolaLei]

Yes, this is how I feel. As a romance, we get to experience Cullen emotionally. We get to learn about how he feels, how his personality is, how he takes flirting, how he reacts to being in love. And these are all fascinating parts of his character and I am overjoyed that we get to do that. But, I also want to know how he reacts under pressure of combat. Is he pragmatic, leave some to die so others might live? Or is he idealistic, still, after everything? Does conflict with blood mages bring out the worst in him? Do Red Templars? Does he associate red templars with Meredith? Does he warn them of the dangers?

 

As I said, getting even half of that is... honestly, more than I expected. How did Wrex put it? Better than I feared, worse than I hoped. I am content with this. But I am human, and thus, I want more. 

 

I guess at least we'll likely get one quest with him, even if it is just a recruitment/encounter quest of sorts.

[R2s Muse]

Shouldn't GE's next VO session be today or tomorrow? I am excite!

[Phate Phoenix]

I guess at least we'll likely get one quest with him, even if it is just a recruitment/encounter quest of sorts.

 

I have this feeling I'll be making a hard save there, and just replaying it over and over.

 

CULLEN: It feels like we've... done this before.

INQUISITOR: No, no, no... Now say that one line again. You know. In that way. [SQUEE]

[LolaLei]

Shouldn't GE's next VO session be today or tomorrow? I am excite!

 

I'd forgotten all about that in the excitement! 

[Phate Phoenix]

Shouldn't GE's next VO session be today or tomorrow? I am excite!

 

[GASP] AH. SOON. LAST NAME. MAYBE! 

 

[FLAILING] [FALLS OFF CHAIR]

 

EDIT: Does that mean I have to stay up until 2am again? 

Modifié par Phate Phoenix, 17 avril 2014 - 02:12 .

[LolaLei]

[GASP] AH. SOON. LAST NAME. MAYBE! 

 

[FLAILING] [FALLS OFF CHAIR]

 

We definitely need to ask that one first!

[Jynxed_]

So I'm guessing that if Cullen is apparently a "fanservice", every cameo ever has been a fanservice, returning companions in ME were fanservice, upcoming characters from books that appear in-game will be fanservice, and every LI is a fanservice. So I guess bioware should just remove all of those....sooo no game then?

 

A huge part of what makes bioware games different is that they do care about the fans. They put those little tidbits in to make fans giggle and smile, but at the same time the bigger cameos or dialogue are clearly important. If bioware put Cullen in the game..THREE TIMES..they clearly think he's important to the story, just like they think morrigan is important to the story for DAI, which is why she would be appearing again. Not because they wanted to do a "fanservice" to morrigan fans. All these trolls are basically insulting the bioware writers more than anything, which IMO is pretty shallow. Everyone is entitled to hate a character, but that doesn't mean you need to post a new thread simply to rage at the fans and writers. 

 

Sorry, just wanted to share my opinion :3

[meanieweenie]

Shouldn't GE's next VO session be today or tomorrow? I am excite!

I believe so. That would be a great way to end the work week.... with a nice little tweet pic to his fans. *hint hint*

[Owlfruit Potion]

So, last night I was working on memorizing a long list of chemical reactions and their mechanisms, and checking in on the Cullen thread every 5 reactions or so as a study break. When I eventually got to bed I dreamt that I had a brilliant mnemonic for remembering how all the electrons were moving, using Cullen's shifting opinions about the Circle / the Order as an analogy (in the dream I drew a little schematic in my notes of electron-pushing arrows bouncing down his nose). The kind of thing that makes PERFECT sense at the time and you wake up to realize is total nonsense. This is the only dream I have had about Dragon Age to date, which is kind of garbage.

 

And I am so looking forward to hearing about the VO session today or tomorrow! Even if it turns out he can't tell us anything.

[R2s Muse]

[GASP] AH. SOON. LAST NAME. MAYBE! 

 

[FLAILING] [FALLS OFF CHAIR]

 

EDIT: Does that mean I have to stay up until 2am again? 

I'm hopeful that a VO session would be during business hours. So... once 10am Edmonton time hits, I think we should start watching the GE twitter feed. I'm sure he'll tweet us from the booth, like he did last time. 

[Phate Phoenix]

I'm hopeful that a VO session would be during business hours. So... once 10am Edmonton time hits, I think we should start watching the GE twitter feed. I'm sure he'll tweet us from the booth, like he did last time. 

 

He said he'd take a picture, too!

[LolaLei]

So I'm guessing that if Cullen is apparently a "fanservice", every cameo ever has been a fanservice, returning companions in ME were fanservice, upcoming characters from books that appear in-game will be fanservice, and every LI is a fanservice. So I guess bioware should just remove all of those....sooo no game then?

 

A huge part of what makes bioware games different is that they do care about the fans. They put those little tidbits in to make fans giggle and smile, but at the same time the bigger cameos or dialogue are clearly important. If bioware put Cullen in the game..THREE TIMES..they clearly think he's important to the story, just like they think morrigan is important to the story for DAI, which is why she would be appearing again. Not because they wanted to do a "fanservice" to morrigan fans. All these trolls are basically insulting the bioware writers more than anything, which IMO is pretty shallow. Everyone is entitled to hate a character, but that doesn't mean you need to post a new thread simply to rage at the fans and writers. 

 

Sorry, just wanted to share my opinion :3

 

Y'know, I don't think I've seen a single person complain that Morrigan's return is just fan service. 

 

It does make me chuckle when you see certain individuals hate on Cullen and scream fan-service, only to find them moments later in a Morrigan thread squeeing and cooing over her, going on about how they can't wait to learn about how his and Morrigan's son is getting on etc!

[R2s Muse]

So, last night I was working on memorizing a long list of chemical reactions and their mechanisms, and checking in on the Cullen thread every 5 reactions or so as a study break. When I eventually got to bed I dreamt that I had a brilliant mnemonic for remembering how all the electrons were moving, using Cullen's shifting opinions about the Circle / the Order as an analogy (in the dream I drew a little schematic in my notes of electron-pushing arrows bouncing down his nose). The kind of thing that makes PERFECT sense at the time and you wake up to realize is total nonsense. This is the only dream I have had about Dragon Age to date, which is kind of garbage.

 

And I am so looking forward to hearing about the VO session today or tomorrow! Even if it turns out he can't tell us anything.

LOL That may be the most awesome DA dream I've ever heard (sorry Lola! ). Too bad it didn't actually help you with the memorization. A Culleny mnemonic for chemistry would be rather memorable, I imagine, like for the rest of your life instead of just for the test!