Most definitely. Hell, my opinion could entirely change on how much he is to blame once talking to him in DAI, but until then I think a lot of us have given him the benefit of the doubt until we know exactly what he did/didn't do and why... I for one am hoping we can talk to him about it because there's no denying he has a lot to answer and a lot of holes to fill in. *Stops self making a crude pun*
Also this!
@Lola ....I seriously hate this new forum set up. It wont let me quote. It wont let me post links.... *Sigh*
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I have this feeling I'll be making a hard save there, and just replaying it over and over.
CULLEN: It feels like we've... done this before.
INQUISITOR: No, no, no... Now say that one line again. You know. In that way. [SQUEE]
Lol groundhogs day the poor boy!
OMG This must be a thing. Groundhog Day: Cullen Edition.
"I am a maker. Not THE Maker. But certainly A Maker...."
Hmmm. An interesting set of responses.
I think that, perhaps, some of us have different beliefs on how much blame one should assign subordinates for participating in atrocities.
That's probably where a lot of the issues come from. As a subordinate, especially in the military, you have to assume your superiors have a good reason to do what they do. They have more intel, they have orders from even higher up, something. If you start to second-guess every order your superior makes, then you no longer have a functioning force. The templars are already held hostage to the Chantry by their addiction to lyrium, and I wouldn't be surprised if superior officers were the ones to give out that lyrium, to help build up a level of trust and dependence. They're probably indoctrinated.
I'm not trying to excuse Cullen's inaction, but, I grew up an Air Force brat, so I have some... sympathy for him? I want to know why he stood up when he did. Did he know about everything happening in Kirkwall? How accountable is he for what happened? I want to know how he felt about it then, how he feels about it now, and if he can make up for it.
That could change how I view his character.
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THANK YOU! lol
Here's the link to the panel videos for those who wanted to see: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=nUmmVptQU2o
Hopefully that works! I still need to watch them..
I keep hoping somebody will have a link to a video of a complete first panel, but no such luck.
Here's the link to the panel videos for those who wanted to see: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=nUmmVptQU2o
Hopefully that works! I still need to watch them..
Here you are dear! : https://www.youtube....h?v=nUmmVptQU2o
But, that's the Sunday panel, no? Not the Friday panel where they announced Cullen as LI.
But, that's the Sunday panel, no? Not the Friday panel where they announced Cullen as LI.
Right. Alas!
But, that's the Sunday panel, no? Not the Friday panel where they announced Cullen as LI.
Ohhh, damn, you're right. I somehow mixed up the two days thinking it was the first one. Sorry about that!
But, that's the Sunday panel, no? Not the Friday panel where they announced Cullen as LI.
Ah, yeah. Sadly have not seen a completed Friday panel yet. I do however know where to find a clip of the video where they announce Cullen as a LI.
Honestly, Xil, I don't think there's enough information here to develop an opinion. A templar being involved in an Annulment is very different from a templar for some unknown reason purging elves from their homes. Why would it be his job? Why is he there? What is his role? What happened to catalyze the 'purge'? I think you're drawing an implicit equivalence between an Annulment and what Howe did in DA:O, when they're very different.
Ah, yeah. Sadly have not seen a completed Friday panel yet. I do however know where to find a clip of the video where they announce Cullen as a LI.
Right but that one's only partial as well.
If we learned that Cullen was culpable for some murky dealings during/after the events at the Gallows and tries to use the "Just Following Orders" excuse, I do hope we get to call him on it and allow him to reflect on his actions. But his standing up to Meredith I think means that he didn't cross too many lines.
Yeah, I've only seen partials and clips (and most are just them announcing him as a LI as well as Cassandra) but so far, have not seen any full vids except Sunday's panel.
How many Dragon Age panels were there? The ones relating directly to the game, I mean. Not the "how to get a job" ones.
How many Dragon Age panels were there? The ones relating directly to the game, I mean. Not the "how to get a job" ones.
I thought there were just two (about DA:I). Fri and Sun.
On the Cullen hate...I don't care that there's a hate thread. Or several. I don't care that they don't like Cullen. You know what bothers the most? Why I always jump in when it comes up? The whole Bioware is fan servicing. Pandering to fans. Or getting mad at Bioware for doing something they dislike (I.E. making Cullen a LI/putting him in the game) I HATE that.
If Bioware was a fan service company, they'da made Varric a LI, cause err' body wanna feel his chest hair 
I'm still praying for Varric LI though...
Oh, gawd!:
Cameron Harris: "Aaaand back to editing stuff that makes me cry quietly at my desk. Damn writers. #emotionalhooligans #DAI"
Oh, gawd!:
Cameron Harris: "Aaaand back to editing stuff that makes me cry quietly at my desk. Damn writers. #emotionalhooligans #DAI"
HAPPY TEARS. HAPPY TEARS RIGHT?
Oh, gawd!:
Cameron Harris: "Aaaand back to editing stuff that makes me cry quietly at my desk. Damn writers. #emotionalhooligans #DAI"
Writers, no.
Actually, I totally want this story to make me damn emotional.
If we learned that Cullen was culpable for some murky dealings during/after the events at the Gallows and tries to use the "Just Following Orders" excuse, I do hope we get to call him on it and allow him to reflect on his actions. But his standing up to Meredith I think means that he didn't cross too many lines.
Well in my opinion is that Cullen has just been trying to do what he thinks is right. Ferelden's circle's incident and trauma that followed it just clouds his judgement. His morality was against annulment of the circle but he still chose to follow orders. When talking him before the battle it really seemed like he was really indecisive, like he wasn't sure what was right thing to do and that's why he went against Meredith so late.
Cullen has some views I don't support but I think he's overall good guy and I hope that Meredith case opened his eyes on templars vs mages issue too.
Writers, no.
Actually, I totally want this story to make me damn emotional.
I'm all for the game making me cry, so long as it doesn't force me to kill off my protagonist without having the option to save her/him or separate him/her from their LI for no good reason other than "lol, fan tears and dramaz!" I'd prefer my Warden and Hawke to remain alive and well and with their significant others.
Everything else I'm cool with.
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