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#50201
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Oh, totally. As usual, I don't think anyone needs to follow the theme. There's so much fodder... we may not need a theme at all, which I think is also fine. 

 

Okay, cool. I've always followed the theme, but I've been wanting to do this part three for awhile now.

 

I think it's good to have several themes out there; it gives people inspiration. I know the various themes inspired me to write all mine.



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I think Cullen is still a templar in the sense he drinks lyrium and possesses the templars abilities. Lyrium addiction is something that can't be cured, and I'd prefer if they leave it like this.

I agree,I'm almost certain that he still uses his templar talents when he has to.Still I like that he's willing to "move on" from the templar order(no matter how difficult it was for him) since it doesn't full fill his ideals at this point,for the greater good.


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#50203
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We have in the pic below. But having a special title of his own could also be cool. They would then just have to explain why there's a general and then also him. keep-choose.png(whoops, edit for wrong link)

Alrighty! General it must be. That's cool! XD

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So, now that's he's not Knight-Captain and not even a templar, what are everyone's thoughts on his new title? Do you think he could be "the General" we've seen talk of? 

 

It's possible? I just wonder where this "angst" DG 'n' co mentioned fits in. I mean, in the interview his writer says that he's still "processing" the whole Templar Order failing their duty and his decision to leave and join the Inquisition, so that sounds like something he's still coming to terms with... but what else?

 

That's not to say I want him all "woe is me!" But I don't want him to be such a BAMF now that his past isn't at least still a small issue, or if not his past then the whole red templar thing, he saw what it done to Meredith so he must have some feelings on the subject. I just hope he's not so c0ck-sure of himself these days that they've lost touch of his fundamental personality traits. I'm a little worried that he's not gonna feel like Cullen... which is silly because we don't even really know the guy beyond his professional exterior. 


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We have in the pic below. But having a special title of his own could also be cool. They would then just have to explain why there's a general and then also him. keep-choose.png(whoops, edit for wrong link)


Did they hover over the other cards? Just out of interest.

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We have in the pic below. But having a special title of his own could also be cool. They would then just have to explain why there's a general and then also him.
 
*snip*
(whoops, edit for wrong link)

I wonder whether these cards represent the agents,or whether they are supposed to be non-spoilery place-holders fro the three advisers,as someone pointed out a while back.



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This is an idea I've also been playing around with. What is Cullen without being a templar? What part of him is always a templar? I love  your notion of resenting magic because of the lyrium dependence. That's an interesting twist I hadn't considered! (have I mentioned how much I miss having you around?? <3)

 

It's a very intriguing notion, I think. :D I've got countless notes about it swimming around my hard drive. ;) I didn't consider the resentment until now, though. But it seems logical to me that if he suddenly has to start scrounging for it when it was always just part of the provided uniform before, it might make him realize a few unpleasant truths and resentment is a possible consequence of that.

 

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LOL Yeah, and I don't mean to say I don't like the other one. I do!  But this one... Gah. This one makes my pulse skip a beat. So, I'm tempted, but... 

 

If you don't do it, I will. :whistle:



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They trolled hard with those portraits :lol:. I guess they didn't want to show their true faces (even as concepts), since people would've recognized Leliana and Cullen (and Scribbles from the survey).
On an unrelated topic, I'm so glad the 'Red fists/gold keys/purple crows' theory was wrong/scrapped.
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#50210
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They trolled hard with those portraits :lol:. I guess they didn't want to show their true faces (even as concepts), since people would've recognized Leliana and Cullen (and Scribbles from the survey).
On an unrelated topic, I'm so glad the 'Red fists/gold keys/purple crows' theory was wrong/scrapped.

 

Funny how it was so spot on but so wrong at the same time!


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It's possible? I just wonder where this "angst" DG 'n' co mentioned fits in. I mean, in the interview his writer says that he's still "processing" the whole Templar Order failing their duty and his decision to leave and join the Inquisition, so that sounds like something he's still coming to terms with... but what else?

 

That's not to say I want him all "woe is me!" But I don't want him to be such a BAMF now that his past isn't at least still a small issue, or if not his past then the whole red templar thing, he saw what it done to Meredith so he must have some feelings on the subject. I just hope he's not so ****-sure of himself these days that they've lost touch of his fundamental personality traits. I'm a little worried that he's not gonna feel like Cullen... which is silly because we don't even really know the guy beyond his professional exterior. 

 

I wonder if it's kind of a retrospective angst, with the lyrium issues on the side. Like, according to both his initial blurb and his writer's interview, Cullen spent more than half his life in the Templar Order. And now he realizes that could have just been a wasted effort. All that time, he was serving something that only existed in his mind, but was never actually real. How do you come to terms with that? Can he trust the Inquisition will do the right thing? What is the right thing? Is there a right thing?

 

On top of that, he's addicted to a substance that will, one day, take his mind. Either because he stops taking it or he continues to, it will happen to him. And it's because of an Order that never really existed. 


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Funny how it was so spot on but so wrong at the same time!

What bothers me is that the 'Red fists' was wrong. There wasn't any Fist in the keep: there was already a Lion (which due to the crappy quality of the video looked like a fist). There was a first 'statue' in a agent mission, but it was about restoring said statue, not the military branch.
Even if it was true, it was VERY outdated, due to certain plots not being presents (the Ferelden-Orlais tension, which is now the OCW) and certain characters (the leader of the army being Celene's brother).

#50213
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They trolled hard with those portraits :lol:. I guess they didn't want to show their true faces (even as concepts), since people would've recognized Leliana and Cullen (and Scribbles from the survey).
On an unrelated topic, I'm so glad the 'Red fists/gold keys/purple crows' theory was wrong/scrapped.

I like how the hair colour of each person in these random portraits,actually matches that of the 3 advisers.



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Yes!!!!!  :wub:

 

The all sound so nice...I can't choose!  :D

Although I'll be possibly moving out to Scotland,by the time we reach 3000,but I'll try to make at least one small contribution.

 

I present to you the image Eric gave to me when he found out I was Scottish: 

 

Spoiler

 


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Given how much material we have to work with this time around... I wonder if we should just have a series of possible prompts for people looking for inspiration. 

 

Like:

 

BAMF

Lions

Cullen's childhood

Cullen's hobbies 

 

Something like that...? 

My preference goes to the man behind the soldier.

 

It can be his hobbies but also his friendships (would be an excuse for me to draw him with Blackwall again...)


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I like how the hair colour each person in these random portraits,actually matches that of the 3 advisers.


Yup. They are distorted version (very much in Scribbles' case) of the three advisors.

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I wonder if it's kind of a retrospective angst, with the lyrium issues on the side. Like, according to both his initial blurb and his writer's interview, Cullen spent more than half his life in the Templar Order. And now he realizes that could have just been a wasted effort. All that time, he was serving something that only existed in his mind, but was never actually real. How do you come to terms with that? Can he trust the Inquisition will do the right thing? What is the right thing? Is there a right thing?

 

On top of that, he's addicted to a substance that will, one day, take his mind. Either because he stops taking it or he continues to, it will happen to him. And it's because of an Order that never really existed. 

 

Perhaps that's why he's taking his role within the Inquisition so seriously? It says in the interview that "he expects a lot of the Inquisition, and of himself", it also says he's "looking to move forward and fight for something he can believe in". Sounds like he's looking to prove himself and make up for his past failings, I think maybe he needs to find something he can believe in, who knows what one more crisis of faith could do to the man. 

 

It'll be interesting to see what he's like when he does relax, it's gonna be quite the experience!


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What I noticed is that both Leliana and Cullen are very job-focused, and they don't seem that they want to relax often in DAI, at least at first.

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What I noticed is that both Leliana and Cullen are very job-focused, and they don't seem that they want to relax often in DAI, at least at first.

 

Could be quite a laugh trying to get the pair of them to chill out!



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It's possible? I just wonder where this "angst" DG 'n' co mentioned fits in. I mean, in the interview his writer says that he's still "processing" the whole Templar Order failing their duty and his decision to leave and join the Inquisition, so that sounds like something he's still coming to terms with... but what else?

 

That's not to say I want him all "woe is me!" But I don't want him to be such a BAMF now that his past isn't at least still a small issue, or if not his past then the whole red templar thing, he saw what it done to Meredith so he must have some feelings on the subject. I just hope he's not so c0ck-sure of himself these days that they've lost touch of his fundamental personality traits. I'm a little worried that he's not gonna feel like Cullen... which is silly because we don't even really know the guy beyond his professional exterior. 

My guess with the whole  "angst" thing might be  between a romance with a mage? Since we don't know for sure if his "fully recovered" from his past experiences  .. even if sht got to hell in DA2 with the templars....



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My guess with the whole  "angst" thing might be  between a romance with a mage? Since we don't know for sure if his "fully recovered" from his past experiences  .. even if sht got to hell in DA2 with the templars....

 

Maybe, but then the people who play as non-mage protagonists would miss out on it. I don't think too much stock will be played into a MagexCullen relationship... I mean, I dare say it'll come up in conversation, maybe mention a couple of hesitations or "lol, how ironic" comments but beyond that I don't think it would be like a huge plot point within the romance arc.


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What I noticed is that both Leliana and Cullen are very job-focused, and they don't seem that they want to relax often in DAI, at least at first.

 

Could be quite a laugh trying to get the pair of them to chill out!

 

CULLEN: [AWKWARD SILENCE]

LELIANA: [AWKWARD SILENCE]

CULLEN: [AWKWARDLY CLUTCHES GLASS BUT DOES NOT DRINK]

LELIANA: [AWKWARDLY TRIES TO NOT STARE AT THE DOOR]

VARRIC: [ASIDE] Boy, isn't this fun! I sure am glad we invited the two party poopers to this shindig!

INQUISITOR: [ASIDE] Shut up and be entertaining.

VARRIC: Shall I juggle for you, Inquisitor?

INQUISITOR: [GRUMPY GRUMBLING]


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#50223
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Maybe, but then the people who play as non-mage protagonists would miss out on it. I don't think too much stock will be played into a MagexCullen relationship... I mean, I dare say it'll come up in conversation, maybe mention a couple of hesitations or "lol, how ironic" comments but beyond that I don't think it would be like a huge plot point within the romance arc.

LIKE and also true.. not many ppl like to play as mages like for example I always play as a rogue :P but I would love to try a female mage just to see what he says/thinks about a relationship like that since at 1st he was so shy/scared? To go for one due to his job, but now that he is a "free man of the order" I wonder if he would still be hesitant about it...



#50224
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I wonder if it's kind of a retrospective angst, with the lyrium issues on the side. Like, according to both his initial blurb and his writer's interview, Cullen spent more than half his life in the Templar Order. And now he realizes that could have just been a wasted effort. All that time, he was serving something that only existed in his mind, but was never actually real. How do you come to terms with that? Can he trust the Inquisition will do the right thing? What is the right thing? Is there a right thing?

 

On top of that, he's addicted to a substance that will, one day, take his mind. Either because he stops taking it or he continues to, it will happen to him. And it's because of an Order that never really existed. 

This is a pretty good analysis,I think that the growing realization that he fought for an idea,that possibly doesn't even exist is also one of the factors that helped him discover his inner strength,disappointment tends to do that to people at times.
It appears that he's also starting to see the greyness of the situation,which is not always pleasant,especially for someone who was continuously brainwashed like Cullen and pretty much every Templar in Thedas.

He's also done waiting for others to act,so he decides to take matters into his own hands and while this sounds like a really "BAMF" thing to do,I believe it's the act of someone who is tired of seeing his ideals constantly crushed by other people's actions.

We still have to wait and see how he's evolves though,but I would expect any sort of retrospective angst,will get worse if the Inquisition doesn't fulfill his expectations.
Which also kind of gives me the impression,that in case the Inquisitor turns out to be an immoral murdering psycho or something,we may even have to confront him.


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#50225
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LIKE and also true.. not many ppl like to play as mages like for example I always play as a rogue :P but I would love to try a female mage just to see what he says/thinks about a relationship like that since at 1st he was so shy/scared? To go for one due to his job, but now that he is a "free man of the order" I wonder if he would still be hesitant about it...

 

Knight Enchanter will probably be good for that... from what I can tell you're like a warrior but with a magic sword instead? Which works better for me because I hate having to stay back whilst everyone else gets to storm into the heat of the battle and kick arse.


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