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Maybe we could ask?

LOL couldn't hurt! So many small factual questions... maybe we could get some answers.

 

1. How many Circles are there?

2. Was Cullen Knight-Commander in Kirkwall after Meredith died? If so, for how long?

3. Was Kirkwall represented at Lambert's Accord meeting? 

4. When did Cullen join the Inquisition? Was he part of the fledgling Inquisition of Cassandra and Leliana?


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LOL couldn't hurt! So many small factual questions... maybe we could get some answers.

 

1. How many Circles are there?

2. Was Cullen Knight-Commander in Kirkwall after Meredith died? If so, for how long?

3. Was Kirkwall represented at Lambert's Accord meeting? 

4. When did Cullen join the Inquisition? Was he part of the fledgling Inquisition of Cassandra and Leliana?

 

Number 4 and number 1 would be the two obscure enough to ask and get answers to, I reckon.



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Interesting notion. Could be that he was there doing stuff and someone else was the actual figure head. Wouldn't surprise me that he would remain the 'getting sh!t done' guy. Altho, the only mention of being knight-captain in the interview that I see is that he's a "former knight-captain."

I mean another possibility is that the Chantry really did leave the Kirkwall Circle without a Knight-Commander because there wasn't a Circle left right? I mean it's a really thin theory, but it could be that all of the corresponding events like the Orlesian Civil War, the Annulment of Dairsmud (sp?) and their own problems in the White Spire made appointing a new Knight-Commander just not a priority?

 

OR MAYBE HE'S A TEMPLAR PLANT!!!!!!

 



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Who can we ask that?

I think DG disabled the asks on tumblr. Maybe he's busy right now, or drowned in spam, so I don't want to bother him. Who else do you think we could ask?



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I'm so relieved to see how accepting people are in here. 

 

First of all, I don't post a lot in here so maybe a bit on me, I'm a female and I'm a game development student. I also have 2 years of computer programming. I've become used to being the only female, or one of the only females in my classes (in the industry in general tbh). It's hard, we are laughed at, poked fun of, etc by some male students and sometimes even by the professors. It's something that irritates me, but I'm used to it and I'm determined to finish and become a game developer.

 

Having said that, I always play females. I LOVE being able to be a female, to the point where I rarely play games that don't allow me to be one. I occasionally will play a male for an LI that is unavailable for a female (STEVE =3, definitely Dorian). One of the reasons I backed out of the Anders fandom was because I was told how it "disgusted" someone when I posted a picture of a fem!hawke with Anders. I hate drama, so I just backed away. Some corners of the Kaidan fandom were the same way, so I mostly stayed out. But I really enjoyed being part of the Alistair fandom, and I miss that. 

 

As far as I go, I don't care who romances who with what gender. I just enjoy squeeing with people, talking about the characters, and not having to worry about offending someone just because I don't play my game the same as them. m/m, f/f, m/f, whatever, I have squeed over LIs with many who prefer both.

 

You guys rock.

 

Welcome! Welcome!  It's so excellent that you're studying game development. I just wish there were more of you. Reading through your post, I think you have found the right place to hang.  I have no doubt you are going to love it here.   B)

 

Dang, I forgot a Cullen.  She's kissing his scar in this one....

 

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I think he was the KC of Kirkwall. But I don't understand something in Asunder. 15 mages arrived to White Spire to represent the Circles, and then the book says that 4 couldn't come. Which means there were 19 Circles?

Then Lambert mentions 15 KC who represented the Circles. Does that mean that 4 didn't come as well?

I don't remember where was it stated that there are only 14 Circles in Thedas. If it was in DAO, then could it be that Chantry opened more over 7 years?

 

I don't recall that part about the first enchanters, so I'll have to re-read it. My initial guess that those First Enchanters that couldn't attend probably sent representatives, so there were still a total of 14 or 15 or whatever. 

 

The "official" 14 mention was one of the DA:O load screen factoids. There are 13 listed in the wiki.



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I mean another possibility is that the Chantry really did leave the Kirkwall Circle without a Knight-Commander because there wasn't a Circle left right? I mean it's a really thin theory, but it could be that all of the corresponding events like the Orlesian Civil War, the Annulment of Dairsmud (sp?) and their own problems in the White Spire made appointing a new Knight-Commander just not a priority?

 

OR MAYBE HE'S A TEMPLAR PLANT!!!!!!

But... for three  years??  All that other stuff didn't happen for three years later. I can't see the Chantry just letting go of a center of power. Like with Starkhaven, I'm sure they'll just repopulate the Gallows with more mages. There are always new mages coming into their power every day. Varric also mentions more templars coming after the battle. 



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Who can we ask that?

I think DG disabled the asks on tumblr. Maybe he's busy right now, or drowned in spam, so I don't want to bother him. Who else do you think we could ask?

bengelinas. the really factoidy ones he might answer. like the number of Andrastian circles.



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bengelinas. the really factoidy ones he might answer. like the number of Andrastian circles.

 

I'd ask ML about when Cullen was recruited, he responds a lot.



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But... for three  years??  All that other stuff didn't happen for three years later. I can't see the Chantry just letting go of a center of power. Like with Starkhaven, I'm sure they'll just repopulate the Gallows with more mages. There are always new mages coming into their power every day. Varric also mentions more templars coming after the battle. 

 

*GASPY FACE* Maybe one of the reinforcements took over? Like the Starkhaven Knight-Commander or...maybe Lambert? Maybe a Seeker took over instead? Sorry my spit balling is getting a little out of hand lol


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LOL couldn't hurt! So many small factual questions... maybe we could get some answers.

 

1. How many Circles are there?

2. Was Cullen Knight-Commander in Kirkwall after Meredith died? If so, for how long?

3. Was Kirkwall represented at Lambert's Accord meeting? 

4. When did Cullen join the Inquisition? Was he part of the fledgling Inquisition of Cassandra and Leliana?

 

I think #1 is an interesting lore question I wouldn't mind seeing answered. #3 is another. The others are Cullen-story questions, and I'd rather wait for the game to come out to have them answered.  :lol:


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#50562
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Dannyboy: It's been a while since you were around! How are you feeling about the Cassandra LI reveal?



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I don't recall that part about the first enchanters, so I'll have to re-read it. My initial guess that those First Enchanters that couldn't attend probably sent representatives, so there were still a total of 14 or 15 or whatever. 

 

The "official" 14 mention was one of the DA:O load screen factoids. There are 13 listed in the wiki.

Page 337:

"This conclave, if it could really be called such, was nothing like that.

The White Spire's great hall dwarfed those present: fifteen firsrt enchanters, short four who couldn't make it in time, plus the Grand Enchanter. Other than that there was simply himself [Rhys], Adrian, and Wynne."

Page 411:

"Fifteen Knight-Commanders in one room, and not a single one had raised a voice in protest. They all knew what needed to be done. Those few that held private reservations would either remain silent or be replaced."



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bengelinas. the really factoidy ones he might answer. like the number of Andrastian circles.

I'll ask him that if nobody haven't done that yet? Since I have it bookmarked in Asunder. Asunder makes it look like there are 20, DAO says there were 14, right?


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My canon Hawke's were neutral, too. They weren't massive mage supporters or anything. But man does the game force you to choose, and that ending, wow! I'd have to go seriously OOC to choose pro-templar. Shame cause that's the best Cullen scene!

 Good morning!

 

It took me a while to it to finally sink in regarding which of your siblings makes it through the prologue -- and why. DA2's writers wanted to make sure your Hawke has a vested interest in the Mage/Templar war.If your Hawke is a mage, there would be no counterbalance to the conflict if Bethany survives. Likewise, if your Hawke is a rogue or warrior and Carver lives there wouldn't be a compelling reason to support the mages.

 

My canon Hawke playthrough had him as a rogue who supported the mages. He was very protective of Bethany after the events that started DA2. Given a choice of sending her to the Circle or making her a Grey Warden, I chose the Circle. Hawke wouldn't have known that being a Grey Warden tends to shorten your life span but I felt that with the Kirkwall Circle destroyed Hawke's sister has the chance of freedom and the prospect of a long life.

 

Since it appears that there's not a clear-cut reason who to support in DAI, I'm wondering if your companions will be the ones who will try to influence you. I was hoping the advisers might have a say-so as well, since Cullen looks to have had the most experience in the conflict.


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Dannyboy: It's been a while since you were around! How are you feeling about the Cassandra LI reveal?

Hey :D I'm ecstatic, though I've always felt that if she was a companion she'd kind of have to be just because every Dragon Age game has been scant on female characters. Three has been the usual number and often at least two of them have been romances. That said I'm happy she's in the party and interested in how her romance will augment her regular story as a whole?

 

I'm also interested to see a side of her when she's not all fire and brimstone know what I mean? I mean she actually comforts Varric and while I've always know she wasn't always book stabber McGee it's interesting to see how compassionate she can really be.

 

How about you Lola, any companion reveals/LI reveals that your particularly fond of that you didn't expect? Same question to everyone of course.

 

 



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Hey :D I'm ecstatic, though I've always felt that if she was a companion she'd kind of have to be just because every Dragon Age game has been scant on female characters. Three has been the usual number and often at least two of them have been romances. That said I'm happy she's in the party and interested in how her romance will augment her regular story as a whole?

I'm also interested to see a side of her when she's not all fire and brimstone know what I mean? I mean she actually comforts Varric and while I've always know she wasn't always book stabber McGee it's interesting to see how compassionate she can really be.

How about you Lola, any companion reveals/LI reveals that your particularly fond of that you didn't expect? Same question to everyone of course.


I knew who all the companions and advisors were since last year, so I wasn't surprised. It was nice to see what they look like though!

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I knew who all the companions and advisors were since last year, so I wasn't surprised. It was nice to see what they look like though!


Did you know their personalities too?

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Did you know their personalities too?

 

Did/do you know all the LI's aswell? Must be hard keeping all the information to yourself pretty hard especially when you see a lot of people speculating etc



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Did you know their personalities too?


Some, not all lol.
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As I roll back in on this Monday morning/afternoon/evening/night I realize that it is probably...hopefully...Scribbles day! 

I also realized I didn't do anything with that Dorian drawing...c__c well I have something to do today then!



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 Good morning!

 

It took me a while to it to finally sink in regarding which of your siblings makes it through the prologue -- and why. DA2's writers wanted to make sure your Hawke has a vested interest in the Mage/Templar war.If your Hawke is a mage, there would be no counterbalance to the conflict if Bethany survives. Likewise, if your Hawke is a rogue or warrior and Carver lives there wouldn't be a compelling reason to support the mages.

 

 

 

Ironically, that design decision failed to invest me in the conflict, mainly because of the poor way it was handled. Both sides were presented as full of extremists, with little compelling reason to support either. Had there been a third "Screw you both - I'm outta here!" option - I would take it every time.


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How about you Lola, any companion reveals/LI reveals that your particularly fond of that you didn't expect? Same question to everyone of course.

I'm surprised I like the sound of Cole. I'm still not a simpering, doting, surrogate mother for him, nor do I ever wish to be, but I admire his ideas and such. Blackwall too, but this is mainly because I see a lot of interesting character potential in spite of a really sparse and generic description of him so far, (plus the fact he's written by Sheryl really doesn't hurt).

But the one that took me most by surprise was Iron Bull. Him still being Qunari really interests me, and I hope we can both push him to and away from becoming Tal-Vashoth. And he seems to be a lot of fun too. The only thing sounding alarm bells in my head is the fact he seems to be another shag all the things bisexual and I am so sick of that bloody trope.

Some, not all lol.


Intweeging... Not that I'm asking for specifics, but have you noticed any slight and or major changes as of yet? After all, it seems that Cassandra was the one who had to be extensively rewritten and I'm interested in knowing just what that could mean exactly and why, (beyond the change in writer).

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 Good morning!

 

It took me a while to it to finally sink in regarding which of your siblings makes it through the prologue -- and why. DA2's writers wanted to make sure your Hawke has a vested interest in the Mage/Templar war.If your Hawke is a mage, there would be no counterbalance to the conflict if Bethany survives. Likewise, if your Hawke is a rogue or warrior and Carver lives there wouldn't be a compelling reason to support the mages.

 

My canon Hawke playthrough had him as a rogue who supported the mages. He was very protective of Bethany after the events that started DA2. Given a choice of sending her to the Circle or making her a Grey Warden, I chose the Circle. Hawke wouldn't have known that being a Grey Warden tends to shorten your life span but I felt that with the Kirkwall Circle destroyed Hawke's sister has the chance of freedom and the prospect of a long life.

 

Since it appears that there's not a clear-cut reason who to support in DAI, I'm wondering if your companions will be the ones who will try to influence you. I was hoping the advisers might have a say-so as well, since Cullen looks to have had the most experience in the conflict.

Morning :)

 

I have a hard time not choosing Carver as my go to sibling and thus Mage as my class (not that it takes twisting my arm given that Mage is my favorite DA2 class) because to me he has the best development in the game. He's a little **** for sure, but it seems like he's had to sacrifice a lot in order to keep his family safe and when I befriended him and sent him off to the Wardens he finally got what he wanted even if it wasn't the exact way he wanted to find a purpose.

 

A little headcanon I have is that either my Warden of Nathaniel took Carver under their wing and showed them that being a little brother wasn't so bad and that sometimes you could live besides your siblings in the limelight. I also think my Warden's more sober attitude was a little refreshing to all the snark my jackass (which is a term of endearment for my Champion) Hawke was often spitting. Just my Cousland, Nathaniel and Carver carving a swath through Darkspawn :D

 

Anyway my mage Hawke was a mage supporter, but while he was very fervent in his ideals at the start he was a bit less certain by the end of the game. His mother had been killed by a mage, he'd potentially learned that the Magisters were indeed the cause of the darkspawn and then the whole thing with Anders made it harder for him to not see that there was a point to the whole Templar thing. That said he believed that all mages shouldn't be judged by the events of the past or the workings of the insane and so he sided with the mages (though he had no particular hate for Templars anymore than anyone else who tried to kill him.) He also let Anders live and felt like he'd betrayed Sebastian which he regrets somewhat.

 

I think if it's as one sided as it was in DA2 or Origins I'll be siding with the mages again, but if its a bit more complicated when the decision has to be made I might side with the Templars.

 

I wonder if instead of sending Leliana you send a Templar like Cullen and because of his abilities he's actually able to subdue Alexius?
 


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Good morning, everyone!

 

Some, not all lol.

So, kind of like being your own Magic 8 ball? ;) kidding ^.^

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@PotatoCat Have you read Asunder? From what I've gathered, Cole is a bit polarizing because of the novel. Or, more specifically, the ending of it. I've added the book to my reading list, but I'll have to make it a point to read it before the game comes out. If you haven't read it, we could start a DA book club! :D


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