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[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

So I'm in DA2 and kind of shocked at how much I *don't* like Cullen. Hold the tomatoes. I have a point. He seems unduly harsh, too eager to go for the brutal approach. I'm not there yet, but I seem to remember him brushing off Alrik's actions. I believe in the Circle system but I also believe what Cullen says about templars having a duty to protect mages and ordinary people. So I'd like to see an acknowledgement from him that he was blind to his duty for a time and a firm resolve to live it out now.

Have you played DAO?

[Funderly]

Sigh.  I keep looking at my inbox and spam folder, and making this face

[OhDaniGirl28]

I don't even know why I bother looking for a Keep invite anymore.  It's never going to be there. 

 

Le sigh. Oh, well.

[jtav]

Have you played DAO?

Yes. He's traumatized. I wouldn't be surprised if he has PTSD. But I think it would be...disrespectful of him as a moral agent for that to be the end of it. If he couldn't help it, I wouldn't want to romance him. It's understandable what he does, but I think his mistakes are only mitigated. I'm not asking for self-flagellation, but "I was wrong, and I'll make up for it by living up to the ideal as best I know how."

[LolaLei]

Yes. He's traumatized. I wouldn't be surprised if he has PTSD. But I think it would be...disrespectful of him as a moral agent for that to be the end of it. If he couldn't help it, I wouldn't want to romance him. It's understandable what he does, but I think his mistakes are only mitigated. I'm not asking for self-flagellation, but "I was wrong, and I'll make up for it by living up to the ideal as best I know how."

That's what it sounds like he's doing in DAI.

Did you see that short fanfic on Tumblr someone wrote about him talking to the Inquisitor about his attitude towards mages in DA:O and DA2? David Gaider reblogged saying that it was very accurate.

If anyone has it, post it up in here for jtav to see, Ta!

[Allowyntais]

*sigh* I am sad about no Keep invite. Ah, well. Always hope next time, yes?

[The Elder King]

That's what it sounds like he's doing in DAI.
Did you see that short fanfic on Tumblr someone wrote about him talking to the Inquisitor about his attitude towards mages in DA:O and DA2? David Gaider reblogged saying that it was very accurate.
If anyone has it, post it up in here for jtav to see, Ta!

http://dgaider.tumbl...evil-come#notes

[Liadan]

That's what it sounds like he's doing in DAI.

Did you see that short fanfic on Tumblr someone wrote about him talking to the Inquisitor about his attitude towards mages in DA:O and DA2? David Gaider reblogged saying that it was very accurate.

If anyone has it, post it up in here for jtav to see, Ta!

 

Here:

 

seraships:

"I have seen both good and evil come from magic," Cullen stated, staring into the Inquisitor’s eyes. "There was a time I sympathized with mages. And there was a time I loathed them. In Kirkwall, I ignored rumors and my own instinct, foolishly thinking my cause was just, that my superior was above such influences."

"And what of the present?" The Inquisitor asked. "What do you have to say now?"

The templar chuckled, a sigh soon following. “Now… Now, I’m certain that I don’t know half as much as I did. Likely nothing at all.” He paused to smile. “Perhaps that’s progress in of itself.”

 

Accurate fan blurb is accurate.

Plus: Cullen revealed! Yay!

 

 

http://dgaider.tumblr.com/

 

 

 

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[Chanda]

I think he'd be cute with Josephine.

 

I think he'd be cute with a pike in his chest.

 

No, no way, NOPE! If he's not going to be with my Quiz, then he can't be with anyone. Everyone else can bang freely.

[LolaLei]

Thanks for finding the Tumblr post! My phone is useless for that sort of thing.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Yes. He's traumatized. I wouldn't be surprised if he has PTSD. But I think it would be...disrespectful of him as a moral agent for that to be the end of it. If he couldn't help it, I wouldn't want to romance him. It's understandable what he does, but I think his mistakes are only mitigated. I'm not asking for self-flagellation, but "I was wrong, and I'll make up for it by living up to the ideal as best I know how."

There are plenty of bad choices that Cullen has made and I don't think they should just be forgotten as if they don't matter because they do. Every choice that he has made - whether it be good or bad - has shapped him into the person that we will meet in DAI. I don't expect him to be grovelling for forgiveness because I don't think that would help him in any way but you are right, I do want him to acknowledge his failings and do everything in his power to acquire some sort of redemption for it.

I have never thought of Cullen as perfect, I think he is quite human and that's why I like him. When I first played DA2 -I payed DA2 first- I found him to be more of a joke rather than disliking because he just seemed so completly oblivious to all the bad and blind in the faith he held for his superiors.

When I finally got around to playing DAO, that's when his character started to intrigue me. I got to see a little of who he was previously and why he was the way he was in DA2. That all prompted me to side with the templars in my next DA2 play-through -which is incredible and needs to be done at least once for all the extra bits of content IMP- and I got see Cullen's progression in himself even more than I would have siding with the mages. He was already starting to question his convictions and we will be seeing plenty more of that in DAI, I think. No way should it all be "sweept under the rug" as I expect explanations and a change. If he was still so blind in his convictions -which we know he isnt- after everything that has happened, there is no way I'd want to romance him.

[Potato Cat]

I think he'd be cute with a pike in his chest.
 
No, no way, NOPE! If he's not going to be with my Quiz, then he can't be with anyone. Everyone else can bang freely.

I like your style.

[Hellion Rex]

Dammit, where's part 2! I NEED TO HEAR DORIAN.

[LolaLei]

There are plenty of bad choices that Cullen has made and I don't think they should just be forgotten as if they don't matter because they do. Every choice that he has made - whether it be good or bad - has shapped him into the person that we will meet in DAI. I don't expect him to be grovelling for forgiveness because I don't think that would help him in any way but you are right, I do want him to acknowledge his failings and do everything in his power to acquire some sort of redemption for it.

I have never thought of Cullen as perfect, I think he is quite human and that's why I like him. When I first played DA2 -I payed DA2 first- I found him to be more of a joke rather than disliking because he just seemed so completly oblivious to all the bad and blind in the faith he held for his superiors.

When I finally got around to playing DAO, that's when his character started to intrigue me. I got to see a little of who he was previously and why he was the way he was in DA2. That all prompted me to side with the templars in my next DA2 play-through -which is incredible and needs to be done at least once for all the extra bits of content IMP- and I got see Cullen's progression in himself even more than I would have siding with the mages. He was already starting to question his convictions and we will be seeing plenty more of that in DAI, I think. No way should it all be "sweept under the rug" as I expect explanations and a change. If he was still so blind in his convictions -which we know he isnt- after everything that has happened, there is no way I'd want to romance him.

I wonder if that's part of the reason why (like it said in the interview) he expects a lot of himself when it comes to his job? Like, he's trying to put things right and redeem himself for his past failings? I'd like that to be a part of his story arc.

[Jynxed_]

Eluvianus Ixius Rex, on 09 Jul 2014 - 6:23 PM, said:

Dammit, where's part 2! I NEED TO HEAR DORIAN.

They'll cut off right before he opens his mouth, and then they'll end it with background laughter instead of background music

[jtav]

That blurb is encouraging. I do apologize. My time in ME fandom has made me a bit cynical and I was afraid it'd be swept under the rug. Well, that and I softened him in my head so actual warts and all Cullen was a bit shocking after so long.

 

Heh, I never thought I'd find common ground between Cullen and Miranda.

 

So I suppose I'll have my final verdict Oct. 7.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I wonder if that's part of the reason why (like it said in the interview) he expects a lot of himself when it comes to his job? Like, he's trying to put things right and redeem himself for his past failings? I'd like that to be a part of his story arc.

I think so. All the efforts that he puts into the Inquisition to righten what's happening in Thedas would be a little bit of redemption each time he succeds. I think he would have joined not only because he is sick of seeing things go to sh!t but because he, himself needs it to be able to move on from his past mistakes.

Its going to be amazing to watch the changes in him, to maybe be able to see him forgive himself as the game progresses and becomes the man he always had the potential to be.

[jtav]

I think so. All the efforts that he puts into the Inquisition to righten what's happening in Thedas would be a little bit of redemption each time he succeds. I think he would have joined not only because he is sick oif seeing things go to sh!t but because he, himself needs it to be able to move on from his past mistakes.

Its going to be amazing to watch the changes in him, to maybe be able to see him forgive himself as the game progresses and becomes the man he always had the potential to be.

I have to say, if you're right, his romance will be amazing.

[guardian_titan]

Spoiler

So, if I can't have him, no one can, Chanda?  Beyond it obviously being a sign of jealousy and (unhealthy) obsession to a degree, it's also a sign of a potential psychological problem and can lead to murder.  Watch enough crime documentaries (not CSI, NCIS, Bones, etc) and you'll notice a trend with love triangles and scorned lovers.  Jealousy isn't a bad thing but if strong enough ... if can lead to terrible things.  While in this context, I don't see you going out to murder someone, I'd have to seriously fear for your personal life.  If you fell for some cute guy in the real world and you found out he wasn't into you, are you going to throw a fit until he relents even if it would make him unhappy to do so?

 

While it's a disappointment Cullen's not for everyone, it's said and done.  Outside of mods, it won't be changing.  The writers made their decision and shouldn't be bullied into changing it nor should those who will get the change to get Cullen because they will roll a female inquisitor should feel bad because they can have him.  Not everyone in real life is bisexual so why should this be true in a game?  Perhaps stepping away and focusing on something else would be for the best.  There are many other things in life outside of the Bioware boards.  I myself float about 5-6 boards in a given day when I'm not watching TV or playing a game.  One board irritates me, I have the others to occupy me for a while.  No need to get an ulcer over a design decision and no need to say others shouldn't have something because you can't.

 

Rather than being angry that you can't have Cullen with a male inquisitor, either be happy for others who are willing to play a female inquisitor or roll a female one yourself.  Don't be closed minded.  Doing so is what causes arguments.  Play devil's advocate with yourself.  Try to see the other side.  When DAI comes out, at least attempt to play the other side.  You'll never know what you find.

 

Wonder when we'll finally see the Greg Ellis video.  If the Iron Bull one is any indication, we should hear some of Cullen's lines and maybe see some footage of him.  Wonder if the other companions/advisers will get videos, too, or only select ones.  Would be interesting to see one for each to hear their voices.

[LolaLei]

I'm starting to get used to his new DAI look now. It takes me longer to adjust to the returning character's new models than it does with the brand new previously unknown ones, lol.

[Hellion Rex]

Lola, just sent you a PM about something.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

I have to say, if you're right, his romance will be amazing.

Oh, I think it will be

And after the Q&A yesterday and the comment about how the romance scenes were going to be a constant thing throughout the game and not just about bedroom antics, I think that we will get see a more indepth character progression than in previous games. I'm very excited for it all, and not just the Cullen romance either. There are plenty of other NPCs that I can't want to unravel and discover the inner workings of but Cullen is my top.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Spoiler

So, if I can't have him, no one can, Chanda? Beyond it obviously being a sign of jealousy and (unhealthy) obsession to a degree, it's also a sign of a potential psychological problem and can lead to murder. Watch enough crime documentaries (not CSI, NCIS, Bones, etc) and you'll notice a trend with love triangles and scorned lovers. Jealousy isn't a bad thing but if strong enough ... if can lead to terrible things. While in this context, I don't see you going out to murder someone, I'd have to seriously fear for your personal life. If you fell for some cute guy in the real world and you found out he wasn't into you, are you going to throw a fit until he relents even if it would make him unhappy to do so?

While it's a disappointment Cullen's not for everyone, it's said and done. Outside of mods, it won't be changing. The writers made their decision and shouldn't be bullied into changing it nor should those who will get the change to get Cullen because they will roll a female inquisitor should feel bad because they can have him. Not everyone in real life is bisexual so why should this be true in a game? Perhaps stepping away and focusing on something else would be for the best. There are many other things in life outside of the Bioware boards. I myself float about 5-6 boards in a given day when I'm not watching TV or playing a game. One board irritates me, I have the others to occupy me for a while. No need to get an ulcer over a design decision and no need to say others shouldn't have something because you can't.

Rather than being angry that you can't have Cullen with a male inquisitor, either be happy for others who are willing to play a female inquisitor or roll a female one yourself. Don't be closed minded. Doing so is what causes arguments. Play devil's advocate with yourself. Try to see the other side. When DAI comes out, at least attempt to play the other side. You'll never know what you find.

Wonder when we'll finally see the Greg Ellis video. If the Iron Bull one is any indication, we should hear some of Cullen's lines and maybe see some footage of him. Wonder if the other companions/advisers will get videos, too, or only select ones. Would be interesting to see one for each to hear their voices.

I think the first part was just a joke

And she was talking about other NPCs romancing Cullen, not his sexual preference.

[Crunchycarp]

By Kelgrid http://kelgrid.tumblr.com/

 

I don't even know.

[Chiantirose82]

Spoiler

So, if I can't have him, no one can, Chanda?  Beyond it obviously being a sign of jealousy and (unhealthy) obsession to a degree, it's also a sign of a potential psychological problem and can lead to murder.  Watch enough crime documentaries (not CSI, NCIS, Bones, etc) and you'll notice a trend with love triangles and scorned lovers.  Jealousy isn't a bad thing but if strong enough ... if can lead to terrible things.  While in this context, I don't see you going out to murder someone, I'd have to seriously fear for your personal life.  If you fell for some cute guy in the real world and you found out he wasn't into you, are you going to throw a fit until he relents even if it would make him unhappy to do so?

 

While it's a disappointment Cullen's not for everyone, it's said and done.  Outside of mods, it won't be changing.  The writers made their decision and shouldn't be bullied into changing it nor should those who will get the change to get Cullen because they will roll a female inquisitor should feel bad because they can have him.  Not everyone in real life is bisexual so why should this be true in a game?  Perhaps stepping away and focusing on something else would be for the best.  There are many other things in life outside of the Bioware boards.  I myself float about 5-6 boards in a given day when I'm not watching TV or playing a game.  One board irritates me, I have the others to occupy me for a while.  No need to get an ulcer over a design decision and no need to say others shouldn't have something because you can't.

 

Rather than being angry that you can't have Cullen with a male inquisitor, either be happy for others who are willing to play a female inquisitor or roll a female one yourself.  Don't be closed minded.  Doing so is what causes arguments.  Play devil's advocate with yourself.  Try to see the other side.  When DAI comes out, at least attempt to play the other side.  You'll never know what you find.

 

Wonder when we'll finally see the Greg Ellis video.  If the Iron Bull one is any indication, we should hear some of Cullen's lines and maybe see some footage of him.  Wonder if the other companions/advisers will get videos, too, or only select ones.  Would be interesting to see one for each to hear their voices.

 

I'm pretty sure she was talking about followers romancing other NPC's if your inquisitor doesn't romance them ala Fenris/Isabella or Garrus/Tali