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[Phate Phoenix]

140 wpm, baby; it comes in handy

 

And what you said is the reason I feel conflicted. I've not heard about the word budget being increased -- hence I don't see how 6 LIs is possible.

 

But could I see the writers being overruled? Yeah. Stretching the budget out to accommodate 6 LIs. Hopefully not, but I can see it happening.

 

And there just isn't room for Cullen in that 3/3/3 split

 

*goes back to laughing at meanie playing with her slots* You need some alone time, dear?

 

Really, the only way Cullen is a companion is if the Grey Warden pulls a Daveth and dies quickly or becomes a rogue, or everyone is wrong about the Iron Bull being a companion.

 

Honestly, the most likely one is the Grey Warden becoming a rogue. Speaking of... Did you know, in the Gameinformer special, the Devs talk about having to make changes to companions in order to get them to fit? They specifically reference Varric and how he changed from a sleezeball to your rock in DA2, but it seems an odd thing to talk about in an article specifically about DAI. And didn't one of the companions need a complete rewrite?

 

Just sayin'.

[Polyhymnia]

I'm unsure as to if they will announce anything tomorrow or next week as tomorrow is Good Friday o3o

 

If not tomorrow, it would great to hear about it on Monday.

[CuriousArtemis]

Well you've just blown your secret identity if that's your superpower! (Typed slowly with my two fingers.)

 

That would be a pretty crappy super power  

[xxKitRosalin]

Maybe Cullen is the third warrior and the Warden is a rogue. It has been awhile since we've seen him in anything. Also, the Warden could just be a temp companion and might be one of the "advisors". One can only hope.

 

You never know! I stated earlier in this thread, although it is heavily speculated, that the "even split" might not really mean 3/3/3 but could be 4/2/3 etc. as it was never specifically stated as such. Bioware's concept of an "even split" could mean that there are enough of each type of companion that you won't be lacking in mages, warriors, etc.

[Jean]

Dragon Age Origins kind of already did NPC romances, but not quite like ME3. You had Gorim for the female noble dwarf, the elf girl or the son of your mother's friend in the noble human origin, your bride/husband to be in the alienage elf origin, Tamlen for the female dalish elf origin... It's just that they weren't really carried throughout the game like ME3's NPC romances were. Unless you count Tamlen as a ghoul.

Ghouls need love too.

 

I also might kinda want beardy as a rogue because I want all the companions. All of them

[CuriousArtemis]

Dragon Age Origins kind of already did NPC romances, but not quite like ME3. You had Gorim for the female noble dwarf, the elf girl or the son of your mother's friend in the noble human origin, your bride/husband to be in the alienage elf origin, Tamlen for the female dalish elf origin... It's just that they weren't really carried throughout the game like ME3's NPC romances were. Unless you count Tamlen as a ghoul.

 

Tamlen for the male Dalish, too  Tamlen's just shy; he doesn't like to talk about it 

[Phate Phoenix]

If not tomorrow, it would great to hear about it on Monday.

 

They could do Sidekick Saturday.

 

(I take no credit for that, I read it elsewhere on the forums but it is so perfect.)

[ChachiBobinks]

Dragon Age Origins kind of already did NPC romances, but not quite like ME3. You had Gorim for the female noble dwarf, the elf girl or the son of your mother's friend in the noble human origin, your bride/husband to be in the alienage elf origin, Tamlen for the female dalish elf origin... It's just that they weren't really carried throughout the game like ME3's NPC romances were. Unless you count Tamlen as a ghoul.

 

Does that technically count though?

[Polyhymnia]

They could do Sidekick Saturday.

 

(I take no credit for that, I read it elsewhere on the forums but it is so perfect.)

 

I could go for Sidekick Saturday. So cool.

[xxKitRosalin]

Although, they may end up revealing IB or Solas....

[BFace]

OK... Bramblefae is outed now... she's JAHEIRA!!!

*cough* I have no idea what you're talking about. *whistles innocently*

[BevH]

140 wpm, baby; it comes in handy

 

And what you said is the reason I feel conflicted. I've not heard about the word budget being increased -- hence I don't see how 6 LIs is possible.

 

But could I see the writers being overruled? Yeah. Stretching the budget out to accommodate 6 LIs. Hopefully not, but I can see it happening.

 

And there just isn't room for Cullen in that 3/3/3 split

 

*goes back to laughing at meanie playing with her slots* You need some alone time, dear?

If they were to stretch the budget to accommodate 6, it would mean less content overall for the romances. I hope this doesn't happen.

[xxKitRosalin]

The only thing I worry about with NPC romances is them compensating for the loss of potential character development and moments that would otherwise be expressed in a party romance. They would have to supplement the lack of interaction with something of equal value in order to make it successful.

[Phate Phoenix]

The only thing I worry about with NPC romances is them compensating for the loss of potential character development and moments that would otherwise be expressed in a party romance. They would have to supplement the lack of interaction with something of equal value in order to make it successful.

 

The thing is, conversations with your party members are now like a merging of DAO and DA2. Or, rather, a lot like DAA (from what I gathered). So, I don't know how much actual conversation you'd miss by not traveling with Cullen. You'd miss the initial "What should I do" conversations, but you could have a "What did I do" type of conversation back at Skyhold, or wherever. Plus Skyhold-specific conversations, and advisor/NPC-specific conversations.

 

Would it be the same as travelling with Cullen? No. But it doesn't have to be lacking in depth, either. 

[xxKitRosalin]

The thing is, conversations with your party members are now like a merging of DAO and DA2. Or, rather, a lot like DAA (from what I gathered). So, I don't know how much actual conversation you'd miss by not traveling with Cullen. You'd miss the initial "What should I do" conversations, but you could have a "What did I do" type of conversation back at Skyhold, or wherever. Plus Skyhold-specific conversations, and advisor/NPC-specific conversations.

 

Would it be the same as travelling with Cullen? No. But it doesn't have to be lacking in depth, either. 

 

No, but we could miss out on their reactions to certain decisions you make, etc. I find those reactions vital to understanding and developing your relationship with a character. 

 

I.E: Cutscenes and the like.

[Phate Phoenix]

No, but we could miss out on their reactions to certain decisions you make, etc. I find those reactions vital to understanding and developing your relationship with a character. 

 

I.E: Cutscenes and the like.

 

This is true. I'm not going to lie, it will be hard for a NPC romance to compete against the companion romances. I'm not sure what they could add to even out the difference.

[Allan Schumacher]

I'm thinking one of three things on this. Either
1.we post a lot of pages and going through them seems daunting
2.they are worried it's all just girls squeeing and being obnoxious
3.They don't really care and are just trying to get peoples dander up.

In that thread does Guy/girl that made it get involved in the discussion a lot?

 

If someone doesn't find a character interesting (yet), there's also this internet mentality of feeling a need to speak up because "otherwise their voices won't be heard."

 

I think a lot of it is politicking and some people believe that Cullen's inclusion is purely a result of giving fan service to the characters, and by being "conscientious objectors" they feel they are providing the counter votes to illustrate that their perspectives are not the overshadowed ones.  I do agree that it keeps Cullen in the spotlight, which is paradoxical to the goals of many of them.

 

Then there's just silly humanity, where people see some news, that news is not happy for them (perhaps even bad), but seeing a lot of other people get really excited over it will draw some level of a "Hmph" type of response.  Pot shots ensue, for a variety of reasons.

[Taraelyn]

No, but we could miss out on their reactions to certain decisions you make, etc. I find those reactions vital to understanding and developing your relationship with a character. 

 

I.E: Cutscenes and the like.

 

I would also really miss my companions giving my LI a hard time. Can you imagine Varric making fun of Cullen? Good times.

[xxKitRosalin]

If someone doesn't find a character interesting (yet), there's also this internet mentality of feeling a need to speak up because "otherwise their voices won't be heard."

 

I think a lot of it is politicking and some people believe that Cullen's inclusion is purely a result of giving fan service to the characters, and by being "conscientious objectors" they feel they are providing the counter votes to illustrate that their perspectives are not the overshadowed ones.  I do agree that it keeps Cullen in the spotlight, which is paradoxical to the goals of many of them.

 

Then there's just silly humanity, where people see some news, that news is not happy for them (perhaps even bad), but seeing a lot of other people get really excited over it will draw some level of a "Hmph" type of response.  Pot shots ensue, for a variety of reasons.

 

Indeed. Thank you for shedding your opinions on it! I'm sure you've heard a lot of direct messages pertaining to the whole concept, so, it is nice to hear someone else's POV on the whole ordeal.

[Damate]

Really, the only way Cullen is a companion is if the Grey Warden pulls a Daveth and dies quickly or becomes a rogue, or everyone is wrong about the Iron Bull being a companion.
 
Honestly, the most likely one is the Grey Warden becoming a rogue. Speaking of... Did you know, in the Gameinformer special, the Devs talk about having to make changes to companions in order to get them to fit? They specifically reference Varric and how he changed from a sleezeball to your rock in DA2, but it seems an odd thing to talk about in an article specifically about DAI. And didn't one of the companions need a complete rewrite?
 
Just sayin'.

Great (re)find, Phate! I think I actually missed this article when game informer did their special. It helps us keep in mind that there's just sooooo much going on behind the scenes, and we are only seeing bits and pieces, a lot of it out of context or from uncertain timelines in development.

P.s. I nearly said "great find, PP!" --- then I thought better of it. *facepalm* but apparently had to share my stupidity anyway

[xxKitRosalin]

I would also really miss my companions giving my LI a hard time. Can you imagine Varric making fun of Cullen? Good times.

 

Particularly the cut scenes are most important to me. I want to see my LI react to my decisions, and I want to hear their input on a certain subject. It helps, in my opinion, both character's grow.

[Taraelyn]

Particularly the cut scenes are most important to me. I want to see my LI react to my decisions, and I want to hear their input on a certain subject. It helps, in my opinion, both character's grow.

 

True. And agreed. It's far more interesting when it occurs in the moment, as compared to occuring when you return to camp.

[SamaraDraven]

If they were to stretch the budget to accommodate 6, it would mean less content overall for the romances. I hope this doesn't happen.

What I wonder is if there might be more possible romances total but only four at a time can be unlocked for whatever reason. Like say there are 6 LIs but only 4 can be recruited or encountered based in decisions you make. That way, there could be more romance (and companions) but you can't get them all in one play through. Kind of like if you could have skipped helping Anso and thus meeting Fenris because you chose to do something else. I like the idea of discovering new things for making a different choice from what I did in a previous playthroughs. This way, there wouldn't need to be less content for LIs because you always only have 4 available to you in a given run but a different run could result in a different set of 4. Just a thought I had for a possible explanation.

[Phate Phoenix]

Great (re)find, Phate! I think I actually missed this article when game informer did their special. It helps us keep in mind that there's just sooooo much going on behind the scenes, and we are only seeing bits and pieces, a lot of it out of context or from uncertain timelines in development.

P.s. I nearly said "great find, PP!" --- then I thought better of it. *facepalm* but apparently had to share my stupidity anyway

 

I think it's important to keep perspective, you know? Just because we saw this character as a warrior months ago does not mean that's what he is now. Not until he's been confirmed.

 

Hee, PP. [GIGGLESNORT]

[Polyhymnia]

What I wonder is if there might be more possible romances total but only four at a time can be unlocked for whatever reason. Like say there are 6 LIs but only 4 can be recruited or encountered based in decisions you make. That way, there could be more romance (and companions) but you can't get them all in one play through. Kind of like if you could have skipped helping Anso and thus meeting Fenris because you chose to do something else. I like the idea of discovering new things for making a different choice from what I did in a previous playthroughs. Just a thought I had for a possible explanation.

 

That's a very interesting idea. I could see this as more plausible especially if some LIs would be restricted to a particular class or race.