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That's so sad. :(

 

I doubt we'll be from either Kirkwall or Starkhaven to eliminate confusion for new players. Tantervale, perhaps? That seems to be the city with the most power after Kirkwall and Starkhaven. So if we're from there, we could be from a more substantial noble family. 

 

Wycome sounds more fun, though. Party town.  :lol: 

 

Quoting myself like a looooooser, but... 

 

Damn it. Ever ytime I read Wycome, it turns into "Why come?" in my head, and then everything goes down hill from there...


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If the human mage noble was from the Free Marches then she might have been based at the Starkhaven circle? Which means she might have known Grace and the others? That would be interesting.

 

To be honest, I doubt Cullen had much of a background prior to DAI since it was unlikely that the devs ever even thought he'd appear beyond DA:O. Whatever his background, it will have been something they wrote up during DAI's development.

 

Well, he did have that 'I wanted to be a knight' thing, at least, but whether or not his new writer chose to stick with that... we'll find out. :)



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Anywhere but Starkhaven. Sebastian and I have... issues :angry:

 

As far as Cullen, when I went looking for that article... yesterday?... I saw in one of them that he is a native Ferelden so I am actually thinking chantry orphan. Poor boy. :( I would figure if he had been a noble, someone would have referenced it with your human noble. Either Alistair or some of the conversations you overhear. I don't recall anything with Cullen other than his crush and in Awakenings him being sent to "recover".

 

I don't think they had thought Cullen's character that far during DAO. He was rather minor NPC there after all, well comparable to NPC's of other Origins like Tamlen (;___; ) or Shianni. Maybe they have started to think his character further only just now since during DAO and DA2 we didn't think about Cullen's personal life at all, it was always about his experiences and work as templar.


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If the human mage noble was from the Free Marches then she might have been based at the Starkhaven circle? Which means she might have known Grace and the others? That would be interesting.

 

To be honest, I doubt Cullen had much of a background prior to DAI since it was unlikely that the devs ever even thought he'd appear beyond DA:O. Whatever his background, it will have been something they wrote up during DAI's development.

I didn't even think about that. It would be interesting if the Mage is from that circle. I completely forgot they were from Starkhaven. I only remembered Sebastian being from there and well... yeah :S

 

They probably didn't. I just read the interview with DG saying he was a native Ferelden and I didn't even know that.



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I didn't even think about that. It would be interesting if the Mage is from that circle. I completely forgot they were from Starkhaven. I only remembered Sebastian being from there and well... yeah :S

 

They probably didn't. I just read the interview with DG saying he was a native Ferelden and I didn't even know that.

 

There's an article saying that? Can you post up the link, I don't think I've ever read that one.



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I'm sorry. I didn't mean it to be. I should have said, some scientists tend to only focus on the experiment.

Not to belabor the point (I know, too late!), but I think what the Stanford experiment showed is that every human can push their power to an extreme. Stereotyping scientists as not caring about their subjects or the consequences of their work is a pop culture trope run amok. It was popular in 1950s horror films, and still pops up today, but because it creates drama. Not because it reflects reality.


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I think if they wanted to really reference Dragon Age II they'd have us be a noble from Kirkwall or if Sebastian had a significant role in the dlc that got rolled into Inquisition than MAYBE Starkhaven, but I don't know since they might want to keep the accent for Starkhaveners. I think Tantervale is my top guess at least for the Warrior/Rogue characters because the little blurb about it being a really restrictive Chantry state makes sense as far as why a Tantervale noble would find their way to the Chantry's gathering. For pro-Chantry characters they could be willing attendants and for anti-Chantry characters they could have been forced by their parent. That and it's leader is a Lord Chancellor which in some places have a judicial role which could be useful as the Inquisitor. 



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There's an article saying that? Can you post up the link, I don't think I've ever read that one.

http://dragonage.wik...ia_to_a_Fangirl

 

This is the only one I can remember mentioning it. It was still purple in my google search from yesterday.



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Maker YES! *swoons*

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If it was WWI, I would've advised you to play Valiant Hearts.

I played te demo and couldn't quite get into it but a colleague told me that she really likes Valiant Hearts. I hope Steam has it on winter sale, I would check it out then.

 

Yeah it's the Stanford Prison Experiment. http://en.wikipedia....ison_experiment I watched a documentary on it and it is amazing how quickly everything went bad.

There is a German movie based on the SPE. I'm usually not that sensitive but I had trouble sleeping afterwards. However, it is a great movie.  I'm still shaking my head in disbelief how people can change for the worse.

 

To continue with my psychology lecture, you only really have to look at Kitty Genovese to see what people tend to do- nothing. She was murdered within sight and hearing of 30 people, begging for help and not one called the police. Bystander apathy is a horrible thing, but more recent studies have shown a lessening trend, thank goodness. Everybody just seems to think someone else will sort it out- so no-one does.

I took a course in self-defence a few years ago and the cops told us that you should always address people directly. For example, if you are sitting in the Underground and someone is molesting you, the best you can do is to talk directly to other passengers: 

"You, the man in the yellow jumper. Can't you see that this guy is molesting me? Help me. And you, the woman with the red purse, call the police."

Appearently it is harder to look away once you are called out. However, I think it depends on the situation.


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I think if they wanted to really reference Dragon Age II they'd have us be a noble from Kirkwall or if Sebastian had a significant role in the dlc that got rolled into Inquisition than MAYBE Starkhaven, but I don't know since they might want to keep the accent for Starkhaveners. I think Tantervale is my top guess at least for the Warrior/Rogue characters because the little blurb about it being a really restrictive Chantry state makes sense as far as why a Tantervale noble would find their way to the Chantry's gathering. For pro-Chantry characters they could be willing attendants and for anti-Chantry characters they could have been forced by their parent. That and it's leader is a Lord Chancellor which in some places have a judicial role which could be useful as the Inquisitor. 

 

Wouldn't it be funny if the human noble female was supposed to have had an arranged marriage to Sebastian's brother or something, and either he died before it could be done (if rogue/warrior) or it didn't happen because you were a mage. 


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http://dragonage.wik...ia_to_a_Fangirl

 

This is the only one I can remember mentioning it. It was still purple in my google search from yesterday.

 

Oh wait, I have read that one! I completely forgot about part. I wonder if they'll change it? Doesn't seem worth having him be from elsewhere.



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Not to belabor the point, but I think what the Stanford experiment showed is that every human can push their power to an extreme. Stereotyping scientists as not caring about their subjects or the consequences of their work is a pop culture trope run amok. It was popular in 1950s horror films, and still pops up today, but because it creates drama. Not because it reflects reality.

Again I am sorry. It was more of a way to try to explain why 50 people didn't say anything about that particular experiment because they all wanted to see the end result and the one person outside the experiment was the one who did. It was in no way meant as a comment on all scientists.


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If the human mage noble was from the Free Marches then she might have been based at the Starkhaven circle? Which means she might have known Grace and the others? That would be interesting.

 

To be honest, I doubt Cullen had much of a background prior to DAI since it was unlikely that the devs ever even thought he'd appear beyond DA:O. Whatever his background, it will have been something they wrote up during DAI's development.

Agree. Sounds like, from the writers comments, that she's making most of it up herself. I'm really curious. 

 

On the Trev background, I'm really curious why folks are convinced that he/she isn't from Starkhaven or Kirkwall? I've seen that in a bunch of places and I think it's as good a choice as any. You don't need to have played past games to understand those places, and it's a great way to give a new player some background when it comes up. But maybe I missed something ruling those out. 



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To be honest, I doubt Cullen had much of a background prior to DAI since it was unlikely that the devs ever even thought he'd appear beyond DA:O. Whatever his background, it will have been something they wrote up during DAI's development.

BB confirmed that she wrote his backstory for DAI, so apparently he didn't have anything in DAO-DAII.


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Again I am sorry. It was more of a way to try to explain why 50 people didn't say anything about that particular experiment because they all wanted to see the end result and the one person outside the experiment was the one who did. It was in no way meant as a comment on all scientists.

I understand. Sorry. I find the "bad scientist" trope to be an interesting narrative tool... but apparently it is also one of my many soap boxes... from which I will now step down.  ^_^



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Agree. Sounds like, from the writers comments, that she's making most of it up herself. I'm really curious. 

 

On the Trev background, I'm really curious why folks are convinced that he/she isn't from Starkhaven or Kirkwall? I've seen that in a bunch of places and I think it's as good a choice as any. You don't need to have played past games to understand those places, and it's a great way to give a new player some background when it comes up. But maybe I missed something ruling those out. 

 

That would be pretty funny if mage Trev was from the Gallows.

 

I reckon chances are he/she will be from one of the other circles out there, otherwise it would be a little weird if Cullen was like "who are you?" Or, in terms of a female mage, is willing to romance someone he once had to guard... not sure my fem mage would wanna date him knowing what went on in the Gallows if he really didn't bother to do anything to prevent it.


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Agree. Sounds like, from the writers comments, that she's making most of it up herself. I'm really curious. 

 

On the Trev background, I'm really curious why folks are convinced that he/she isn't from Starkhaven or Kirkwall? I've seen that in a bunch of places and I think it's as good a choice as any. You don't need to have played past games to understand those places, and it's a great way to give a new player some background when it comes up. But maybe I missed something ruling those out. 

 

I personally just think it would be awkward to have the Vael family come up to a player that hasn't met Sebastian and, thus, has no reason to care. I mean it's one thing if we get to meet Sebastain later and it comes up in plot, but... if Trev. comes from there, then it would be pretty weird if they didn't know the Vael family, especially being a noble.

 

And Kirkwall... for anyone who hasn't played DAII, they don't know what went down, so wouldn't understand why their character should know what did/have the topic be spoken about as though the do know exactly what happened. 



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Oh wait, I have read that one! I completely forgot about part. I wonder if they'll change it? Doesn't seem worth having him be from elsewhere.

Yeah, I'd be surprised if he's not Fereldan since that seems to be the only consistent fact about him over the course of the games. TBH, I sorta feel like his background is already colorful enough. I want his childhood to just be vanilla. Was a kid, had parents, grew up. Something really intricate and tragic just seems like overkill. Then again, I'm sure Brianne will come up with something plausible for the story she's telling.


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On the Trev background, I'm really curious why folks are convinced that he/she isn't from Starkhaven or Kirkwall? I've seen that in a bunch of places and I think it's as good a choice as any. You don't need to have played past games to understand those places, and it's a great way to give a new player some background when it comes up. But maybe I missed something ruling those out. 

I hope Trev is not from somewhere we've been to. I wonder if the mage!Trev was sent to Fereldan Circle? Because she/he has a Fereldan accent? Or do Marchers also have the accent? I'm curious about it, becasue Hawke asks Cullen "You sound Fereldan." So apparently Marchers have a different accent? I'm not a native speaker, it's not very obvious to me.



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That and it's an opportunity to potentially learn more about one of the other cities, and I'm always curious for new info.  :lol:


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Yeah, I'd be surprised if he's not Fereldan since that seems to be the only consistent fact about him over the course of the games. TBH, I sorta feel like his background is already colorful enough. I want his childhood to just be vanilla. Was a kid, had parents, grew up. Something really intricate and tragic just seems like overkill. Then again, I'm sure Brianne will come up with something plausible for the story she's telling.

 

Yeah, it's just the Surname that throws me off. I mean, I know that some common/normal folk in DA do have Surnames but I just wonder if that'll simply be the case with Cullen, or if he's actually nobility. God dammit, my Inquisitor just wants a piece of rough!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


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I personally just think it would be awkward to have the Vael family come up to a player that hasn't met Sebastian and, thus, has no reason to care. I mean it's one thing if we get to meet Sebastain later and it comes up in plot, but... if Trev. comes from there, then it would be pretty weird if they didn't know the Vael family, especially being a noble.
 
And Kirkwall... for anyone who hasn't played DAII, they don't know what went down, so wouldn't understand why their character should know what did/have the topic be spoken about as though the do know exactly what happened.

But this is just inevitable with a game focused on a new protagonist, tho. It happened repeatedly already in DA2 with every cameo (Alistair, Zev, Isabela). And the game always gives you a chance to ask who someone is, even if you already know.
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I hope Trev is not from somewhere we've been to. I wonder if the mage!Trev was sent to Fereldan Circle? Because she/he has a Fereldan accent? Or do Marchers also have the accent? I'm curious about it, becasue Hawke asks Cullen "You sound Fereldan." So apparently Marchers have a different accent? I'm not a native speaker, it's not very obvious to me.

I'm American, and it wasn't obvious to me either. Everyone in Kirkwall, Marcher and Fereldan sounded "british" to my uneducated ears. But maybe someone else could tell...?



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I hope Trev is not from somewhere we've been to. I wonder if the mage!Trev was sent to Fereldan Circle? Because she/he has a Fereldan accent? Or do Marchers also have the accent? I'm curious about it, becasue Hawke asks Cullen "You sound Fereldan." So apparently Marchers have a different accent? I'm not a native speaker, it's not very obvious to me.


Not really. At least not one I can detect. Ferelden, the Free Marches, Tevinter, Rivain and the Anderfels have all been shown to have English accents.
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