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You *may* have thought about this a tad too much... oh who I am kidding?! No you didn't :P

I never noticed his freckle (I thought it was a mole lol) in DA2

 

It's definitely a mole.

 

It sounds like the Devs are having problems with freckles and the like, but damn do I hope, at the very least, there's some skin presets with freckles and moles. I would be so sad if the Inquisitor is forced to have the clearest of skin while everyone else gets to be let supermodel-y. ;n;



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"Wasn't your... Sire, didn't your mole used to be on the other side?"

"I have a MOLE?!!?"

:lol:

 

Although I didn't notice he still had the mole in DAII. I thought they had left it out? Although in the third picture it kinda looks like whoever put the mole in kinda just gave up and decided to put it somewhere in the middle of where it was in Origins and DAII. 

 

 

"We're men, we're men in tights! Tight tights!" I haven't seen that movie in so long! I must watch it now!

My favorite thing in the world is this:  :lol:

 

Prince John: Such an unusual name, "Latrine." How did your family come by it? 
Latrine: We changed it in the 9th century. 
Prince John: You mean you changed it TO "Latrine"? 
Latrine: Yeah. Used to be "Sh!thouse." 
Prince John: It's a good change. That's a good change! 

 

 

 

They're really good :) I envy you truly! My partner is a great drawer but he lacks confidence and I was thinking about how you drew yours and what kinda programs that might be good. I think it's such a great talent to have

 

 

You *may* have thought about this a tad too much... oh who I am kidding?! No you didn't :P

I never noticed his freckle (I thought it was a mole lol) in DA2

 

Lol, freckle or mole, whatever it is, it moves.  ^_^


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A requirment? I have children and I refer to them as either kittens or the litter... Will that do?

How old are your children, Boom? One daughter is 2 years old and the rest is... ? (If you don't mind that I'm asking.)

 

I wanna revisit the topic of Cullen's lyrium addiction. I am thinking maybe his personal quest might center around that. But the more I see of him in DAI, the more I think he's no longer on lyrium. What do you guys think?

 

I would love if he quit, but:

a) I don't think it's possible. We have never heard about anyone quitting that. Samson says that even trying nearly kills you. :(

B) Cullen still wears templar insignia, so apparently he thinks he's a templar, and he's proud of it. And since it was retconned that you can be a templar without lyrium (it was, right?), I suppose Cullen still needs the stuff to make his abilities work. I think if he lost his abilities, he wouldn't be wearing those gauntlets. Because it would be a lie, and he seems to be a very honest person.

 

Well, I kind of had a theory that the circles under his eyes were more like an anatomical thing. I had a friend at school, he always looked like he was on drugs and never slept, but it was just how his hypodermic tissues worked.

But since Cullen got rid of that, I guess he had the dark circles because of stress/nightmares and Kirkwall :)

 

I thought about his lyrium addiction, too, when we discussed the red lyrium earlier in this thread. I also think that his quest will be focused on lyrium (red or blue one).  

 

I believe we haven't heard of anyone quitting before because templars used to be loyal to the chantry. There was no reason to quit because no one ever left the order. Samson is an exception, of course. Personally, I believe that blue lyrium works like any other highly addictive drug in the real world. In theory a templar could quit but it demands a great amount of willpower and discipline. Samson didn't have that.

Not sure if it was retconned that you can be a templar without lyrium. Wasn't Alistair the one who states that you don't really need lyrium for your templar skills? I was under the impression that the chantry's desire to controll the templars was more important than the "magic" abilities the templars might get from the lyrium. The chantry took advantage of the situation. I'm not saying that they outright lied since lyrium can be used to enchant objects. So it has to have some sort of magical power.  But I presume that the chantry twisted the facts somehow because that way it was easier to control the templars.  Cullen doesn't need the lyrium for his abilities and I *hope* he decides to keep clear of it. At least that's my take on it :).     



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"We're men, we're men in tights! Tight tights!" I haven't seen that movie in so long! I must watch it now!

My favorite thing in the world is this:  :lol:

 

Prince John: Such an unusual name, "Latrine." How did your family come by it? 
Latrine: We changed it in the 9th century. 
Prince John: You mean you changed it TO "Latrine"? 
Latrine: Yeah. Used to be "Sh!thouse." 
Prince John: It's a good change. That's a good change! 

 

 

 

 

Lol, freckle or mole, whatever it is, it moves.  ^_^

 

That movie was such a huge part of my childhood, lol, along with The Princess Bride, A New Hope, and both the Neverending Story movies (we don't talk about the third one, that doesn't exist *hiss*). I'm also going to have to watch it now! It's on Canadian netflix, so I'm super happy  :lol:

 

EDIT: why do I keep on getting top of the page >.> ...have badass-lion-helm-Cullen!

 

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How old are your children, Boom? One daughter is 2 years old and the rest is... ? (If you don't mind that I'm asking.)

 

I also have a step-son that is 5 in October, that's all I have.  :)



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So I just noticed that Cullen's freckle has a mind of it's own.

 

Spoiler

Seeing all these images in a row, I must say that I like his new model the most :wub: .


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How old are your children, Boom? One daughter is 2 years old and the rest is... ? (If you don't mind that I'm asking.)

 

 

 

I thought about his lyrium addiction, too, when we discussed the red lyrium earlier in this thread. I also think that his quest will be focused on lyrium (red or blue one).  

 

I believe we haven't heard of anyone quitting before because templars used to be loyal to the chantry. There was no reason to quit because no one ever left the order. Samson is an exception, of course. Personally, I believe that blue lyrium works like any other highly addictive drug in the real world. In theory a templar could quit but it demands a great amount of willpower and discipline. Samson didn't have that.

Not sure if it was retconned that you can be a templar without lyrium. Wasn't Alistair the one who states that you don't really need lyrium for your templar skills? I was under the impression that the chantry's desire to controll the templars was more important than the "magic" abilities the templars might get from the lyrium. The chantry took advantage of the situation. I'm not saying that they outright lied since lyrium can be used to enchant objects. So it has to have some sort of magical power.  But I presume that the chantry twisted the facts somehow because that way it was easier to control the templars.  Cullen doesn't need the lyrium for his abilities and I *hope* he decides to keep clear of it. At least that's my take on it :).     

 

I had to rifle through my bookmarks to find it, but someone made a really interesting analysis dealing with the inconsistencies in the lore that we're given about templars and their dependence on lyrium.

 

http://vieralynn.tum...d-the-harrowing

 

 

 

And this is DG’s “word of god” statement on Templar abilities during an interview in January 2012

Even if Templar magic was recognized as spellcasting, it’s not innate to the Templars, if they just stopped taking lyrium eventually they would lose the ability. Although as Alistair proves, they can use the ability for a long time afterwards. I think part of that was just the requirements of gameplay, for us to have a specialization as well, so some of that story doesn’t quite match up with the gameplay, and I think eventually we’d like to work the lyrium requirement back into the gameplay as well.  

 

I really recommend reading the post, because it brings up some really good points about the Chantry, templars and lyrium using the information that we've been given. 


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#57208
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That movie was such a huge part of my childhood, lol, along with The Princess Bride, A New Hope, and both the Neverending Story movies (we don't talk about the third one, that doesn't exist *hiss*). I'm also going to have to watch it now! It's on Canadian netflix, so I'm super happy  :lol:

 

Princess Bride = squeeeeee  :lol:

 

I never liked the Neverending Story movies though. I was a weird kid and Falcor made me feel ill lol like gave me an upset tummy  :rolleyes:


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I have a step-son that is 5 in October, that's all I have.  :)

*Confused* Sorry, if I misinterpreted something. I thought you mentioned before you had a daughter :blush: . Anyway, a five year old step-son can probably be quite a handful, too :lol:. I don't have kids but friends of mine have (4 years old). So I've got an idea... LOL. 



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Princess Bride = squeeeeee  :lol:

 

I never liked the Neverending Story movies though. I was a weird kid and Falcor made me feel ill lol like gave me an upset tummy  :rolleyes:

 

*used to run through the park yelling "YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!" at the top of my lungs while fist-pumping the air because I was pretending that I was riding on Falcor like Bastian does at the end of the movie* >.>...

 

It's okay, everyone knows the weird kids turn out to be the coolest.  :lol:



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I had to rifle through my bookmarks to find it, but someone made a really interesting analysis dealing with the inconsistencies in the lore that we're given about templars and their dependence on lyrium.

 

http://vieralynn.tum...d-the-harrowing

 

 

I really recommend reading the post, because it brings up some really good points about the Chantry, templars and lyrium using the information that we've been given. 

 

Interesting especially the part DG says "I think eventually we’d like to work the lyrium requirement back into the gameplay as well. "
Maybe Cullen need lyrium to continue using his abilities?



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I had to rifle through my bookmarks to find it, but someone made a really interesting analysis dealing with the inconsistencies in the lore that we're given about templars and their dependence on lyrium.

 

http://vieralynn.tum...d-the-harrowing

 

 

I really recommend reading the post, because it brings up some really good points about the Chantry, templars and lyrium using the information that we've been given. 

Interesting. Thanks :). And there goes my theory... LOL :lol: . Anyway, I hope Cullen doesn't use lyrium often so he stays in his right mind ;). Or maybe he quit nevertheless because he is more of a freelancer now.



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Guys, I just had a kinda depressing but mostly farfetched thought:

 

What if Cullen has a crisis point in the game? Like, what if he's been trying to wean himself off of using lyrium, or he's just run out of lyrium altogether, and eventually the withdrawal hits him really bad, and he ends up getting drawn to the red lyrium that's been springing up everywhere out of withdrawal/insanity-driven-desperation? Or something similar? 

 

Even if that were a thing, unless the advisors can actually die (and if the E3 demo was anything to go by... :( ), I don't think that Cullen would actually do it. I mean, he resisted blood mage and desire demon torture, but it could be a major source of contention and stress. 



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*Confused* Sorry, if I misinterpreted something. I thought you mentioned before you had a daughter :blush: . Anyway, a five year old step-son can probably be quite a handful, too :lol:. I don't have kids but friends of mine have (4 years old). So I've got an idea... LOL. 

 

Sorry, that was my fault, I reworded it to to say "I also have a step-son....." Yeah, they are a handful! My step-son is in the "I'm always right" stage and he starts off every sentence with "Well, actually..." but he sounds just like me half the time and that's what is probably the most annoying lol. And my daughter is very smart for a 2 year old and can be very cunning. They keep me on my toes.  ^_^

 

*used to run through the park yelling "YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!" at the top of my lungs while fist-pumping the air because I was pretending that I was riding on Falcor like Bastian does at the end of the movie* >.>...

 

It's okay, everyone knows the weird kids turn out to be the coolest.  :lol:

 

Yes they are lol.

 

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Guys, I just had a kinda depressing but mostly farfetched thought:

 

What if Cullen has a crisis point in the game? Like, what if he's been trying to wean himself off of using lyrium, or he's just run out of lyrium altogether, and eventually the withdrawal hits him really bad, and he ends up getting drawn to the red lyrium that's been springing up everywhere out of withdrawal/insanity-driven-desperation? Or something similar? 

 

Even if that were a thing, unless the advisors can actually die (and if the E3 demo was anything to go by... :( ), I don't think that Cullen would actually do it. I mean, he resisted blood mage and desire demon torture, but it could be a major source of contention and stress. 

 

I won't be surprised if it is a crisis for him but I doubt he'll turn to red lyrium. That's where Josephine might come in with her connections, maybe a trade agreement with the dwarves?

 

Two things have hit me that I had assumed were correct but I'm not sure now. One, I always thought it was a given that the Chantry used lyrium as a form of controlling the templars and two, that advisers can't die (for some reason *I think* I heard that companions yes, advisers no but now I have doubts I heard correctly)



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*whistles innocently*

 

:D


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hahaha! Love it!

I use to crush on Cary Elwes so badly ;)


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*whistles innocently*

 

:D

 

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! LOVE!  :lol: 

 

 

 

hahaha! Love it!

I use to crush on Cary Elwes so badly  ;)

 

 

Me too!  :wub:



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I won't be surprised if it is a crisis for him but I doubt he'll turn to red lyrium. That's where Josephine might come in with her connections, maybe a trade agreement with the dwarves?

 

Two things have hit me that I had assumed were correct but I'm not sure now. One, I always thought it was a given that the Chantry used lyrium as a form of controlling the templars and two, that advisers can't die (for some reason *I think* I heard that companions yes, advisers no but now I have doubts I heard correctly)

 

It's been said that the advisors won't choose to leave like the companions can, but nothing about them dying.

 

So, you know, whenever you tell Cullen to do anything he could potentially be tragically killed not come back.  :whistle:



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I don't think Cullen would easily betray Inquisitor but I don't think it's impossible either. Cullen has always been loyal, but maybe too loyal at times which is why he defended Meredith so long although he started to have doubts about her as well. However in the end of DA2 Cullen went against Meredith and I think that can be taken as betrayal. I doubt "new" Cullen, who seems more determined and self-confident would follow blindly Inquisitor no matter what he/she did, otherwise I don't think he would have grown at all as character between the games. I would like him at least heavily question my decisions if they go against his morals, it seems like advisors won't leave but I would love him to disaprove in other ways.



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hahaha! Love it!

I use to crush on Cary Elwes so badly ;)

hehehe have another then ;)

 

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It's been said that the advisors won't choose to leave like the companions can, but nothing about them dying.

 

So, you know, whenever you tell Cullen to do anything he could potentially be tragically killed not come back.  :whistle:

 

Nooooooooo!! Thanks for heads up! I probably would of got him killed and thought WTF?! isn't he invincible!


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Nooooooooo!! Thanks for heads up! I probably would of got him killed and thought WTF?! isn't he invincible!

 

Hahaha, he might be invincible too. They haven't said he is at risk of dying, just haven't said he isn't either.


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hehehe have another then ;)

 

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Thanks :) I won't knock it back :P



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I won't be surprised if it is a crisis for him but I doubt he'll turn to red lyrium. That's where Josephine might come in with her connections, maybe a trade agreement with the dwarves?

 

Two things have hit me that I had assumed were correct but I'm not sure now. One, I always thought it was a given that the Chantry used lyrium as a form of controlling the templars and two, that advisers can't die (for some reason *I think* I heard that companions yes, advisers no but now I have doubts I heard correctly)

 

I dunno, if all the templars are truly addicts, then if the withdrawal symptoms are strong or unbearable enough, then maybe that's why we have Red Templars? At least, some of them anyway, not all of them. But I didn't think about Josephine and her connections, oh good. *relief* This means my Quizzy won't have to tie Cullen to a bedpost or something while she goes off to find a solution/more lyrium/a cure. :P I did say my thought about his crisis point was farfetched. although I don't really think my Quizzy would need an excuse to tie Cullen to a bedpost *whistles*

 

I think it is a given that the Chantry used lyrium to control the Order. We know that Alistair definitely says as much, and I know Evangeline says something like, "Once you're in the Order you can never leave," when Rhys comments on her being addicted to lyrium in Asunder. 

 

I think the advisors might be able to die? Although I'm just going off of the E3 demo and the cruel cruel clifhanger they ended it on with Leliana and the knife to her throat and the look in her eyes. But if they can die, then I think as players, we'd have to try really hard to get to that point? Since the advisors are super important and all. It would definitely make the game a lot harder if we could lose our advisors in some way. Say you lose Cullen, so your troop numbers start diminishing because he isn't there to lead the armies in your stead, or if you lose Josephine, you start losing resources and alliances because you can't meet the requirements for trade and political deals she had made, and if you lose Leliana, it becomes extremely hard to keep an eye out on what's happening in the different regions, even the ones you have control of, because you've gimped your intelligence branch. 

 

But again, I'm only going off of the E3 demo. I don't think that they advisors can die, because again, they're super important and they seem necessary to the gameplay as far as running the Inquisition goes.