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[Rhea]

I would be very uncomfortable with even a partner knowing my whereabouts 24/7

However, mage/templar Seeker teams could be cool for wandering around Thedas in the name of Good

 

No, please 

[CuriousArtemis]

@Artemis, I'd bet the concept could be implemented within the Seekers, having a mage and trained warrior fight as a team.

 

True but what if you wanted to be like a teacher or a farmer or something, you just happened to have magic. You've got this knight following you around as you harvest your crops?

 

EDIT: That's such fanfic fodder....

[R2s Muse]

@R2, I'm starting to think that if the Veil truly does disappear, the dwarves will be able to dream again. Perhaps even begin to use magic again, like Sandal does.

Ooooh. Me likey.

 

And, seconding CK's suggestion... back to Cullen!

 

What Counts - Early Morning by vieralynn  (from my DABB fic, What Counts)

 

[Rhea]

Temptation will always be around. For everyone. Temptation takes many forms. But I think reducing the squeeze on mages will go a long way toward preventing abominations. Demons tend to prey on the distressed and weak. If more was done to integrate mages into society on a normal level and the stigma were to disappear, I think far fewer mages would succumb to demonic suggestion. If the stigma of magic was gone, even mages with a problem, like a sick child perhaps, would be able to turn to the greater resources of the Circle for help rather than resort to forbidden magic. I believe a compromise is possible.

In my ideal scenario, mages are registered and sent to a different kind of school than other kids but not removed from their families. The Templars would be a more widespread authority - not greater in terms of jurisdiction but more out there, like a special kind of police force. I'd also have the Order's attention steered toward detecting bad magic being used against all people by making phylacteries standard for everyone rather than just as a tattle rattle for mages. All citizens would have one - because in my assumption, the phylactery of anyone who is experience magic being used against them will light up. For mages, having magic used against them may not appear differently in the vial from their own usage of magic, so mandates for no magic use except in self defense and/or in production of their trade at approved times and places would set perameters for when it might be expected and when it might indicate something untoward was occurring.

There are also glyphs and runes that can affect magic and we use them in combat. Why not use them to protect areas as well? Magic-proof important places, like the Chantry or medical facilities and town halls. And the Order would more than just a Mage-keeping force - they'd investigate instances of illegal use of magic, provide protection -of course - to sensitive areas and people, and help devise ways of detecting and preventing magic from being used as a weapon. But they would do this not from the position of locking mages up "just in case" or as mages being "the bad guy" but rather as a benefit to all - mages too. Here's the humdinger: even mages could be in the Order, helping to fight against bad magic.

I know it's idealistic but that's what I see as a compromise. Monitoring and safeguards for the Templars' peace of mind and freedom for mages on par with everyone else. I think the whole reason Thedas is in the mess it's in is because of the "Us vs. Them" mindset the rest of the world has against mages and the violence and death that have occurred as a result is responsible for what's going on now. But that's me.

 

That was the idea. Thanks!, you have explained very well.

I like the idea of working together as a team.

While it´s true that it's idealistic but a girl can dream 

 

 

I think that (for now) we should just drop the Mage/Templar discussion. This is the "Cullen" thread. And that discussion always leads to arguments and drama, one way or another.

 

Ok, I will not talk about it anymore.

 

[wiccame]

Temptation will always be around. For everyone. Temptation takes many forms. But I think reducing the squeeze on mages will go a long way toward preventing abominations. Demons tend to prey on the distressed and weak. If more was done to integrate mages into society on a normal level and the stigma were to disappear, I think far fewer mages would succumb to demonic suggestion. If the stigma of magic was gone, even mages with a problem, like a sick child perhaps, would be able to turn to the greater resources of the Circle for help rather than resort to forbidden magic. I believe a compromise is possible.

In my ideal scenario, mages are registered and sent to a different kind of school than other kids but not removed from their families. The Templars would be a more widespread authority - not greater in terms of jurisdiction but more out there, like a special kind of police force. I'd also have the Order's attention steered toward detecting bad magic being used against all people by making phylacteries standard for everyone rather than just as a tattle rattle for mages. All citizens would have one - because in my assumption, the phylactery of anyone who is experience magic being used against them will light up. For mages, having magic used against them may not appear differently in the vial from their own usage of magic, so mandates for no magic use except in self defense and/or in production of their trade at approved times and places would set perameters for when it might be expected and when it might indicate something untoward was occurring.

There are also glyphs and runes that can affect magic and we use them in combat. Why not use them to protect areas as well? Magic-proof important places, like the Chantry or medical facilities and town halls. And the Order would more than just a Mage-keeping force - they'd investigate instances of illegal use of magic, provide protection -of course - to sensitive areas and people, and help devise ways of detecting and preventing magic from being used as a weapon. But they would do this not from the position of locking mages up "just in case" or as mages being "the bad guy" but rather as a benefit to all - mages too. Here's the humdinger: even mages could be in the Order, helping to fight against bad magic.

I know it's idealistic but that's what I see as a compromise. Monitoring and safeguards for the Templars' peace of mind and freedom for mages on par with everyone else. I think the whole reason Thedas is in the mess it's in is because of the "Us vs. Them" mindset the rest of the world has against mages and the violence and death that have occurred as a result is responsible for what's going on now. But that's me.

Pretty much how I see it, you just said it far better

[noxpanda]

Interesting notion. I bet you're right on the abominations. I just can't see that happening tho, since where would we go when we dream? The Fade, apparently, it much more than just a place where the demons live, right? If it holds such an intrinsic role in Thedosian life... perhaps the Veil itself is more organic than that and maybe we ... need it?  I mean, granted, Velanna spoke "a time before the Veil" but I still wonder what that really means. 

Yeah as several npcs mention the veil, i think its a false construct, one to either lock someone/something very powerful away, or to control who gets access to magic, or something relating to the golden city/black city (maybe to keep people out of it, or maybe it hides a big ass secret). I think when morrigan is going on about the choice of chaos or order, i think thats what its gonna be. We either destroy the veil and let all the spirits/demons come back or we we keep it in place and continue onwards with the same set of existing problems, just with the inquisiton being at the forefront.

 

Which would mean tech if we were to destroy it, then theres no reason mages and templars couldnt work together to deal with the demons, hell youd prob need mages onside to have a fighting chance!

[jtav]

Speaking of Cullen, can anyone point me in the direction of some good fic? Het, slash, or gen.

[Char]

Speaking of Cullen, can anyone point me in the direction of some good fic? Het, slash, or gen.

I think there's a fair few in the OP/first page in general

[R2s Muse]

Speaking of Cullen, can anyone point me in the direction of some good fic? Het, slash, or gen.

*cough*link at top of the page*cough*

[Liadan]

I don`t know if this fanart were already posted in the thread but here it is  :

 

Spoiler

 

By zoro4me3

 

Spoiler

  

By Merwild

[Hellion Rex]

I think that (for now) we should just drop the Mage/Templar discussion. This is the "Cullen" thread. And that discussion always leads to arguments and drama, one way or another.

Huh? It was totally civil, and it's still relevant to Cullen.

[Allowyntais]

Does anyone else suspect that Sera just hacks off her hair with a dagger to get it out of her face?

[Melca36]

I agree, not all mages are evil. Wynne, for example, if a good person. My only problem is abominations. A mage doesn't have to mean harm to do harm. If the threat of abominations are removed from the picture, I am all for this. (This is why Tranquil mages are allowed out and about without supervision. It was originally believed they couldn't become possessed and, thus, abominations.)

 

But mages do not automatically become abominations. The only reason Thrask's daughter became an abomination was due to the fact she was threatened and likely going to be raped.

 

So we will have to agree to disagree.   And I will ALWAYS believe the BIGGEST flaw in DA2 was how they presented mages.  

[Panda]

I didn't see any wrong with mage-templar discussion. I think it's pretty intresting discussion, quite in topic as well and we all are still friends right? XD

[Galagraphia]

Does anyone else suspect that Sera just hacks off her hair with a dagger to get it out of her face?

That's written in her character kit, actually.

 

I was wondering, what would Cullen be like, if Uldred's rebellion didn't happen? Would he get disappointed in the order sooner? Or maybe seeing an abomination during somebody's Harrowing eventually would have been enough to make him realize why the templars really exist?

[jtav]

I'm a veteran of the Miranda thread--the one that got an entire section of the forums locked down. You guys are angels.

[jtav]

That's written in her character kit, actually.
 
I was wondering, what would Cullen be like, if Uldred's rebellion didn't happen? Would he get disappointed in the order sooner? Or maybe seeing an abomination during somebody's Harrowing eventually would have been enough to make him realize why the templars really exist?

Cullen without the events of Broken Circle is also Cullen without DA2, so I think he'd have retained some sympathy for mages while also being a very dutiful templar. His crisis point would have probably been Lambert's rebellion, and he may have even joined the other templars.

[wiccame]

That's written in her character kit, actually.

 

I was wondering, what would Cullen be like, if Uldred's rebellion didn't happen? Would he get disappointed in the order sooner? Or maybe seeing an abomination during somebody's Harrowing eventually would have been enough to make him realize why the templars really exist?

I think it was the Uldred incident that cemented the deal with him for sure, if it didn't happen he may have ended up a lot like Thrask or Keran. There was a lot of empathy for the mages with him. Saying that though, fate has a way of getting what it wants, if Uldred's uprising failed to even start, something else may have stepped in to put him on that path.

[Char]

I'm a veteran of the Miranda thread--the one that got an entire section of the forums locked down. You guys are angels.

Dare I ask what happened?
:S sounds scary!

I'm glad we're all lovely here
I wonder how patient Cullen is going to be as a character. Will he tolerate a lot of mistakes from the Inquisitor, or will he be exacting?

[Potato Cat]

I'm a veteran of the Miranda thread--the one that got an entire section of the forums locked down. You guys are angels.

Oh, I thought it was Tali's thread, (and what her sweat tasted like), that got the forums shut down. At least, that's the story I heard.

[jtav]

Oh, I thought it was Tali's thread, (and what her sweat tasted like), that got the forums shut down. At least, that's the story I heard.

Basically, you had two groups of people who disagreed on where the emphasis of her character should be and other associated things, eventually with spam postings in an attempt to shut down discussion.

And dear God if you were vocal about not liking the romance, it was unpleasant. That's why I like you guys. I can ship Cullen/Dorian to my heart's content.

[Ananka]

We are very nice.

 

I spent some time in the Kaidan thread back in the ME3 days (although not nearly as much as I spend here). I thought that one was pretty nice too. But it got shut down with the rest of the character threads.