To answer the Mage-Templar question, I'm siding with the Mages. Judging from what the writers are saying, there may not be a compromise for now. The Templars have been controlling Mages for too long.
The Official Cullen Discussion Thread v.3.0
#57676
Posté 19 juillet 2014 - 11:01
#57677
Posté 19 juillet 2014 - 11:27
As a supporter of a compromise option being available, I agree. I don't want the third choice to better then the others, and it doesn't have to be like that.If there is a compromise option, I really hope that comes with its own drawbacks.
#57678
Posté 19 juillet 2014 - 11:32
I feel kind of bad that I still have a soft spot for Cullen/Amell. I even know exactly how it would work and what it would be like.
If it wasn't for Alistair, I'd want my Amell to hook up with Cullen in Inquisition instead of the Inquisitor! ![]()
He'll have to settle for the fact that Trevelyan will have similar character and moral values as Amell. While I certainly understand why others would be offended if Cullen referenced his crush on Amell during his courtship with the Inquisitor, I'm actually hoping he does if they have similar personalities.
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#57679
Posté 19 juillet 2014 - 11:43
I don't really have an Inquisitor for Cullen yet. I find him interesting and his DAI model is gorgeous, but that hasn't really transitioned to actually wanting to do the romance. I'm planning to go for Dorian first and hopefully get a better idea of what Cullen and Josephine are like and whether I want them.
Please don't throw me out.
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#57680
Posté 19 juillet 2014 - 11:50
The Warden I'll import is an Aeducan for unrelated reasons. But I am a sucker for the reuniting lovers/second chance at love trope. I'll never turn it down. Though I suspect the Amell in my head would be very disliked.I don't really have an Inquisitor for Cullen yet. I find him interesting and his DAI model is gorgeous, but that hasn't really transitioned to actually wanting to do the romance. I'm planning to go for Dorian first and hopefully get a better idea of what Cullen and Josephine are like and whether I want them.Please don't throw me out.
I doubt they'd. I'll romance Cassandra/Josephine first, so I won't romance him in my first playthrough as well. There are others in the thread who will romance Other characters in their first playthrough too.
#57681
Posté 19 juillet 2014 - 11:55
If there is a compromise option, I really hope that comes with its own drawbacks.
Well, there's the obvious drawback that the forces of both extremes would hate you and oppose your Inquisition. Given the current situation and how polarized it is, that opposition could be quite significant.
#57682
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:10
The Warden I'll import is an Aeducan for unrelated reasons. But I am a sucker for the reuniting lovers/second chance at love trope. I'll never turn it down. Though I suspect the Amell in my head would be very disliked.
I don't really have an Inquisitor for Cullen yet. I find him interesting and his DAI model is gorgeous, but that hasn't really transitioned to actually wanting to do the romance. I'm planning to go for Dorian first and hopefully get a better idea of what Cullen and Josephine are like and whether I want them.
Please don't throw me out.
I'm not interested in an Inquisitor/Cullen romance either. Cullen/Surana forever!
I will probably save right before the romance starts and reload a ton just to see how he is in a romance but it won't be my canon playthough. I'm going for Josephine. I don't think the Inquisitor I plan on playing and Cullen would get along well anyway.
#57683
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:11
I don't really have an Inquisitor for Cullen yet. I find him interesting and his DAI model is gorgeous, but that hasn't really transitioned to actually wanting to do the romance. I'm planning to go for Dorian first and hopefully get a better idea of what Cullen and Josephine are like and whether I want them.
Please don't throw me out.
Nah, romancing Cullen is not required for thread participation! ![]()
In my ideal world, I'd like my first/canon Inquisitor (Tempest Trevelyan) to romance Cullen. In the very likely event he won't love a mage, the most workable pairing for her would be with Blackwall. If he's not available for LI or doesn't want her either, she probably won't have a romance unless one of the other LIs turns out to be significantly different than I'm expecting.
After I play through with Tempest, I'll make another Inquisitor to romance Cullen if she couldn't. I'm not planning any details for that Inquisitor till we see what he actually likes this time around, though. ![]()
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#57684
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:15
I kind of want an angsty, roller-coaster type romance with Cullen. Like, I REALLY liked romancing Thane in ME2 and 3. It was so sad, and beautiful. Maybe they'd make a romance like that for Varric? I'm still holding out hope for that one.
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#57685
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:19
?!?the very likely
You mean very unlikely, right? Getting me down here. Magequisitor x Cullen 5ever.
Also: I just realized it's almost August, i.e. time for me to start hoping the people who said August for the GE video were right instead of being mad at them for being pessimists.
#57686
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:39
If the Warden returns and Cullen wanted to romance her. Would you still pursue a romance with Cullen? Or help him reconnect with a past lover? or secret option c?
#57687
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:47
Lenore is the one who inherited when her sister was taken to the Circle. She likes having power and she likes being a noble. She prefers a diplomatic solution where possible. Her job is to increase prosperity and security for the greatest number of people and has a strong status quo bias. Because revolutions are inherently disruptive. Want to help mages? Get them somewhere they aren't likely to be mobbed. The Inquisition is an extension of that. Close the breach, rebuild the farms, etc.
Elaine is the mage and honestly the fuzziest for me. I've gone back and forth on what she's like a few times. She was supposed to inherit, and she's more than a little bitter about losing everything. The politics of the Circle are a poor shadow of the real thing, and I think she'd despise the Game for many of the same reasons. Lots of talk and little doing. So she throws herself into research. But now she has her birthright back. She has real power again and she will not let it go.
All three have a strong sense of noblesse oblige, though they view it differently. And hey, if anyone wants to say "X would be perfect for Cullen" I won't object.
#57688
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:48
I never participated in the little romance with Cullen in DAO. Kinda wish I had. It seems like it stuck with a lot of people. ![]()
But because I never experienced that, I have some trouble understanding the importance of a little fling someone had what, nearly a decade ago.
Did any of you play a Warden that never romanced anyone after Cullen?
#57689
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:50
If the Warden returns and Cullen wanted to romance her. Would you still pursue a romance with Cullen? Or help him reconnect with a past lover? or secret option c?
Spoiler
In this hypothetical, I'd just take a step back and keep my Inquisitor out of it. Cullen has a right to be with whoever he wants, but I don't think my Inquisitor needs or wants to play matchmaker for him.
That said, two things:
I'd be very disappointed in Cullen if after a decade he still hadn't gotten over a crush on a woman he barely knew and had talked to a handful of times. If a player has a headcanon that they had more of a relationship, that's totally fine and great - but it's not written into the game that way. Based on just what's written in the game, I don't think that still being stuck on her would suggest very positive things about Cullen's mental health.
Also, my Warden was a human noble and didn't even meet Cullen till Broken Circle, and she went on to marry Alistair, so this scenario would make no sense for my game. ![]()
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#57690
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:54
I wouldn't even call it a fling, just an unrequited crush. But I have this image of an Amell who permitted both Annulment and Alistair's execution for the good of all and who's feeling a bit hollow. And I started thinking she and Cullen would have things to say to each other after DA2.I never participated in the little romance with Cullen in DAO. Kinda wish I had. It seems like it stuck with a lot of people.
But because I never experienced that, I have some trouble understanding the importance of a little fling someone had what, nearly a decade ago.
Did any of you play a Warden that never romanced anyone after Cullen?
#57691
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:56
Maybe he used to have proper bad bags under his eyes? I must say I miss those.
Yeah, I really I like eyebags. They are even part of what first attracted me to my husband.
Looking a bit sleepy/haunted/deranged/hungover can be danged cute!
#57692
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:57
I would certainly hope he's over it. I just like the idea of two people who had immature infatuations with each other discovering they can fall in love now that they're older and wiser.In this hypothetical, I'd just take a step back and keep my Inquisitor out of it. Cullen has a right to be with whoever he wants, but I don't think my Inquisitor needs or wants to play matchmaker for him.
That said, two things:
I'd be very disappointed in Cullen if after a decade he still hadn't gotten over a crush on a woman he barely knew and had talked to a handful of times. If a player has a headcanon that they had more of a relationship, that's totally fine and great - but it's not written into the game that way. Based on just what's written in the game, I don't think that still being stuck on her would suggest very positive things about Cullen's mental health.
Also, my Warden was a human noble and didn't even meet Cullen till Broken Circle, and she went on to marry Alistair, so this scenario would make no sense for my game.
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#57693
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:57
But because I never experienced that, I have some trouble understanding the importance of a little fling someone had what, nearly a decade ago.
I'm with you; I think most Amell/Surana x Cullen fans have the Warden returning to Cullen afterward and beginning/continuing the relationship then. Of course, all bets are off when it comes to beloved headcanons ![]()
But Cullen pining away for a woman he barely knew 10 years ago? Nah, not buying it.
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#57694
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 12:59
I'd be very disappointed in Cullen if after a decade he still hadn't gotten over a crush on a woman he barely knew and had talked to a handful of times. If a player has a headcanon that they had more of a relationship, that's totally fine and great - but it's not written into the game that way. I don't think that would suggest very positive things about Cullen's mental health.
Also, my Warden was a human noble and didn't even meet Cullen till Broken Circle, and she went on to marry Alistair, so this scenario would make no sense for my game.
While I understand what you mean, ambient dialogue from other NPCs (including Jowan, if you bring him along when you speak to Cullen for the first time) suggests that his crush on her was longstanding. I also didn't get the idea that he barely knew her, but I suppose that's subjective. Still... the Warden doesn't know Alistair for very long, and they can get married! I have a feeling the Warden knew Alistair for less time than Cullen knew the mage Warden. ![]()
Part of why I like the idea of Cullen still carrying a torch for Amell/Surana is that I like that kind of trope. To me, my Amell will always be Cullen's "one who got away" and I plan to have my Trevelyan mage romance him despite knowing that.
#57695
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 01:00
I would certainly hope he's over it. I just like the idea of two people who had immature infatuations with each other discovering they can fall in love now that they're older and wiser.
Reminds me of the plot for a manga
But yeah that makes a sweet love story.
#57696
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 01:01
Part of why I like the idea of Cullen still carrying a torch for Amell/Surana is that I like that kind of trope. To me, my Amell will always be Cullen's "one who got away" and I plan to have my Trevelyan mage romance him despite knowing that.
I hadn't thought of it like that, true. I guess what makes it so unbelievable for me is that I'm probably about the same age as him and I can't imagine still having feelings for someone I crushed on in my early 20s. It's not so much the amount of time that's passed but more about where you are in your life. You don't really pine in your 30s (at least I don't, obviously YMMV for each person).
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#57697
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Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 01:03
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But because I never experienced that, I have some trouble understanding the importance of a little fling someone had what, nearly a decade ago.
It's weird to me that people would even go so far as to call it a fling. Just because I had a crush on the football player in high school and managed to squeak out six complete words to him the entire four years doesn't mean we had a fling.
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#57698
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 01:05
#57699
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 01:07
While I understand what you mean, ambient dialogue from other NPCs (including Jowan, if you bring him along when you speak to Cullen for the first time) suggests that his crush on her was longstanding. I also didn't get the idea that he barely knew her, but I suppose that's subjective. Still... the Warden doesn't know Alistair for very long, and they can get married! I have a feeling the Warden knew Alistair for less time than Cullen knew the mage Warden.
It's not just the length of time, though - it's also the amount of interaction, the depth of conversation, and the shared experiences.
As I said before, people have their headcanons and that's great! I have no objection to that. ![]()
I just don't think it's in the game itself. ![]()
#57700
Posté 20 juillet 2014 - 01:07
Considering the Amell I plan on importing was a lesbian I'll be very surprised if either party'd still be up for it. But if they want to spend the rest of their lives in marital misery complete with Leliana evils, all the power to them. With any luck, I'll be romancing Vivienne in that playthrough anyway, (if I remember the chart right).
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