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[Mes]

Part of why I like the idea of Cullen still carrying a torch for Amell/Surana is that I like that kind of trope. To me, my Amell will always be Cullen's "one who got away" and I plan to have my Trevelyan mage romance him despite knowing that.

 

Hmmm interesting. May I ask - what would be your mage's reasoning for romancing a man who may be holding another woman on a bit of a pedestal and possibly still pining for her? (That's what the phrase "one who got away" conjures in my mind, anyway.)

 

I think I'd be the opposite. If Cullen mentions the Warden in this way in DAI, that will be my queue to exit the relationship. I've got quite a "thing" against this sort of stuff unfortunately, from real-life experiences. Nearly all of my past boyfriends have pined after one of their exes during our relationship. Iz no good.

 

It's weird to me that people would even go so far as to call it a fling. Just because I had a crush on the football player in high school and managed to squeak out six complete words to him the entire four years doesn't mean we had a fling.

 

Hey I've got no experience with Cullen in DAO - I'm literally going off of stuff I've read in these forums. If I called it a fling in error, please forgive.

[CENIC]

It's not just the length of time, though - it's also the amount of interaction, the depth of conversation, and the shared experiences.

 

As I said before, people have their headcanons and that's great! I have no objection to that.

 

I just don't think it's in the game itself.

So because it would have happened in the past - before the start of the game - it can't have happened at all? I guess Jowan and Amell/Surana aren't childhood friends, then!

 

To be fair, in Witch Hunt when you visit the Circle Tower, two mages have a conversation about Cullen, and if you're a female mage, one of them says, "He isn't STILL holding a torch for her, is he?" So, even NPCs share your view of the situation!

 

 

Hmmm interesting. May I ask - what would be your mage's reasoning for romancing a man who may be holding another woman on a bit of a pedestal and possibly still pining for her? (That's what the phrase "one who got away" conjures in my mind, anyway.)

 

I think I'd be the opposite. If Cullen mentions the Warden in this way in DAI, that will be my queue to exit the relationship. I've got quite a "thing" against this sort of stuff unfortunately, from real-life experiences. Nearly all of my past boyfriends have pined after one of their exes during our relationship. Iz no good. 

I've never had that experience myself, which probably has something to do with my opinion of it. Sorry to hear that it conjures up bad juju for you.

My Amell will be the Hero of Ferelden and the Royal Chancellor as of Inquisition, which makes her an especially heroic figure for other mages. Trevelyan will also have a bit of hero worship going on in regards to Amell, so she'll be able to understand where Cullen is coming from.

[Potato Cat]

CHART WHAT CHART?

My chart. It's not on the computer, it's just a little something I made condensing my notes to key points for each playthrough import. It was to make sure none of my characters were too similar. Which reminds me I was remembering the chart incorrectly and the Amell will be imported into my qunari's game.

[CuriousArtemis]

To be fair, in Witch Hunt when you visit the Circle Tower, two mages have a conversation about Cullen, and if you're a female mage, one of them says, "He isn't STILL holding a torch for her, is he?" So, even NPCs share your view of the situation!

 

I wouldn't take anything those catty b!tches say as canon *snerk*

 

[CuriousArtemis]

My chart. It's not on the computer, it's just a little something I made condensing my notes to key points for each playthrough import. It was to make sure none of my characters were too similar. Which reminds me I was remembering the chart incorrectly and the Amell will be imported into my qunari's game.

 

*handwave* This was not the answer I was looking for. Right, well, that makes more sense

 

I have a similar chart (more of a list); comes in handy for the Keep

[jtav]

My chart. It's not on the computer, it's just a little something I made condensing my notes to key points for each playthrough import. It was to make sure none of my characters were too similar. Which reminds me I was remembering the chart incorrectly and the Amell will be imported into my qunari's game.

I got so sick of trying to match Wardens, Hawkes, and Inquisitors, I decided to do a final perfect run of DA and DA2 and just use it for everything.

[CENIC]

I wouldn't take anything those catty b!tches say as canon *snerk*

 

"He said she's very talented, and very brave."

"He would say that, wouldn't he?"

 

They were just jealous of Amell's superior magery

[TreeHuggerHannah]

So because it would have happened in the past - before the start of the game - it can't have happened at all? I guess Jowan and Amell/Surana aren't childhood friends, then!

 

To be fair, in Witch Hunt when you visit the Circle Tower, two mages have a conversation about Cullen, and if you're a female mage, one of them says, "He isn't STILL holding a torch for her, is he?" So, even NPCs share your view of the situation!

 

I think you're missing my point here.

 

Yes, it could have happened, sure. It's fine if you headcanon it that way.

 

The thing is, that's just one possible interpretation. I don't think it would make a lot of sense to base things that would affect everyone on one possible interpretation. 

 

I have absolutely no problem with people deciding their Warden had a meaningful romantic relationship with Cullen. That's perfectly valid personal RP.

 

I would have a problem if someone else's perfectly valid personal RP morphed into canon and affected my Inquisitor in ways that made no sense for my game, is all.

[jtav]

I still have wistful memories of a crush from over a decade ago. Cullen might feel the same, but if he were actively pining, we'd be reaching Anders territory, and I'm not going through that again.

[Potato Cat]

I got so sick of trying to match Wardens, Hawkes, and Inquisitors, I decided to do a final perfect run of DA and DA2 and just use it for everything.

I just want to experience everything! Like, the scenario with Morrigan I'm most interested in, regular non-OGB and stabbed into the Eluvian, can't happen with my female City Elf.

[Potato Cat]

*handwave* This was not the answer I was looking for. Right, well, that makes more sense
 
I have a similar chart (more of a list); comes in handy for the Keep

Wait. What answer were you hoping for?

[TreeHuggerHannah]

To be fair, in Witch Hunt when you visit the Circle Tower, two mages have a conversation about Cullen, and if you're a female mage, one of them says, "He isn't STILL holding a torch for her, is he?" So, even NPCs share your view of the situation!

 

I think I'm probably too jaded about this because of my own workplace. In the past month or so I have overheard from my residents that I am 1.) leaving to get married, 2.) being transferred to Syracuse, 3.) madly in love with my supervisor, and 4.) that I was taking the cat away to get rid of him (I was just taking him to the vet for his shots).

 

Gossip doesn't really tell you a whole lot, in my experience.

[Kimaka]

So because it would have happened in the past - before the start of the game - it can't have happened at all? I guess Jowan and Amell/Surana aren't childhood friends, then!

 

To be fair, in Witch Hunt when you visit the Circle Tower, two mages have a conversation about Cullen, and if you're a female mage, one of them says, "He isn't STILL holding a torch for her, is he?" So, even NPCs share your view of the situation!

 

 

 

I've never had that experience myself, which probably has something to do with my opinion of it. Sorry to hear that it conjures up bad juju for you.

My Amell will be the Hero of Ferelden and the Royal Chancellor as of Inquisition, which makes her an especially heroic figure for other mages. Trevelyan will also have a bit of hero worship going on in regards to Amell, so she'll be able to understand where Cullen is coming from.

 

Yeah, it's really all dependent on how you play the game. There is an option in the dialogue where you can refer to Cullen by name which implies that the Warden and Cullen know each other. Maybe not incredibly well based on his shyness but well enough that they've had conversations before.

 

 

I still have wistful memories of a crush from over a decade ago. Cullen might feel the same, but if he were actively pining, we'd be reaching Anders territory, and I'm not going through that again.

 

I agree, that would be creepy. I don't see Cullen as being obsessed with the Warden for over ten years more that his crush could be rekindled if she comes back into his life even assuming that they have not interacted between DA:O and DA:I.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

Wait. What answer were you hoping for?

 

Bioware has an internal chart of who is romanceable by whom, but it hasn't been released to the fans. Many of us would like it to be.

[CENIC]

 

I would have a problem if someone else's perfectly valid personal RP morphed into canon and affected my Inquisitor in ways that made no sense for my game, is all.

You mean, if you're importing a female Amell/Surana, you'd prefer Cullen not to mention her? Fair enough. Ideally, hearing that mention would be an optional dialogue choice. For what it's worth, I think you'll have it your way. 

 

This makes me wonder if there will be anything related to Cullen in the Keep. In Dragon Age 2, I never did get the addition to his codex entry that is supposed to appear if you import a female mage Warden, and I always wondered if it was because I didn't tease him until he ran away in Origins and the game had flagged something as small as that. 

[jtav]

In some ways, Cullen/Amell is easier for me because it's not canon. The crush is, but anything mature that occurs later is done by me. I'm stuck with what the writer's give me for Inquisitor/Cullen. If it's too sweet or melodramatic, merely liking the idea of a pairing isn't enough anymore. A non-canon pairing can be tailored to my tastes, within limits.

[TreeHuggerHannah]

You mean, if you're importing a female Amell/Surana, you'd prefer Cullen not to mention her? Fair enough. For what it's worth, I think you'll have it your way. 

 

This makes me wonder if there will be anything related to Cullen in the Keep. In Dragon Age 2, I never did get the addition to his codex entry that is supposed to appear if you import a female mage Warden, and I always wondered if it was because I didn't tease him until he ran away in Origins and the game had flagged something as small as that. 

 

Nah, mentioning her is fine. I'm talking about him either wanting to rekindle the romance or seeming like he's still actively carrying the torch for her. I don't expect him to act like she never existed or anything, I just don't want her to be a huge factor in his current life.

 

This is in no small part because my Warden is actually a human noble, and having too much Amell/Surana focused content would mean I'd either miss out on a significant part of Cullen's arc or it would be shoehorned to fit a character it wasn't intended for.

[CuriousArtemis]

Wait. What answer were you hoping for?

 

That you had seen "THE CHART" ... the one the devs have with all the LIs and their preferences lol

[CENIC]

I still have wistful memories of a crush from over a decade ago. Cullen might feel the same, but if he were actively pining, we'd be reaching Anders territory, and I'm not going through that again.

I agree that once pining passes a certain point, it becomes creepy. Individuals' thresholds for obsessive behavior when it comes to love... vary, however. My Aggro!Mage Hawke thought Anders' comment about "drowning in blood" was very romantic. Especially if it was templar blood.

 

My ideal would be for Cullen to mention (only in an Amell/Surana import, obviously, and perhaps only to a mage Inquisitor?) who is pursuing him that she reminds him of someone he had feelings for long ago. Maybe he'll have reservations because of how his feelings for a mage were once used against him by Uldred's blood mages. Ahh, delicious, delicious angst.

[CuriousArtemis]

I'm not even romancing Cullen, and I don't want him to mention Amell/Surana (how would the game pick which one?). I'd actually like for him to fall for one of the companions or advisers. I'd like to see the guy happy.

[CENIC]

Nah, mentioning her is fine.   I'm talking about him either wanting to rekindle the romance or seeming like he's still actively carrying the torch for her. I don't expect him to act like she never existed or anything, I just don't want her to be a huge factor in his current life.

 

This is in no small part because my Warden is actually a human noble, and having too much Amell/Surana focused content would mean I'd either miss out on a significant part of Cullen's arc or it would be shoehorned to fit a character it wasn't intended for.

Maker's breath, I'd be very upset myself if Amell/Surana was such a big part of his character arc that people who didn't import a female mage Warden were screwed! No, no, no.

I also wouldn't want him to have any hopes of rekindling anything. In my mind, still feeling wistful is okay, but still thinking romance is in the cards after so long is not!

 

I'm not even romancing Cullen, and I don't want him to mention Amell/Surana (how would the game pick which one?). I'd actually like for him to fall for one of the companions or advisers. I'd like to see the guy happy.

I have a sneaking suspicion Cassandra and Cullen are going to hit it off and be the NPC couple in Inquisition.

I don't mind sharing Cullen in playthroughs where I'm not romancing him... but I'm a Cassandra/Regalyan fan. Oh no, look, another pairing that doesn't have ANY solid evidence, and happened over a decade ago! Clearly I need to get my romance priorities straight.

[Kimaka]

In some ways, Cullen/Amell is easier for me because it's not canon. The crush is, but anything mature that occurs later is done by me. I'm stuck with what the writer's give me for Inquisitor/Cullen. If it's too sweet or melodramatic, merely liking the idea of a pairing isn't enough anymore. A non-canon pairing can be tailored to my tastes, within limits.

 

That's how I felt about Garrus and Shepard. I liked the idea of it in ME1 but in ME2 it didn't develop the way I saw it. Too much focus on sex and not about the difficulties of a Human/Turian relationship. Honestly, most of my Bioware pairings have been non-canon because I not into the actual romance options. I like lots of drama and many are too happy, lol. Part of me is happy that Cullen and the Warden would probably not be mentioned in DA:I because it will be nothing how I pictured it.