Just a quick note in case it hadn't been mentioned yet: All of the Prima game guide release dates on Amazon have been changed to November 18th now.
Paperpack - Hardcover Collector Edition - Uber Inquisitor Edition
Ooo, I like the look of the Uber Inquisitor Edition, but I'm not gonna buy it for that money LOL!
Just a quick note in case it hadn't been mentioned yet: All of the Prima game guide release dates on Amazon have been changed to November 18th now.
Paperpack - Hardcover Collector Edition - Uber Inquisitor Edition
There is no way I'm buying that on top of the Inquisitor's Edition. 
I do not have the funds for that. [MAKES GRABBY HANDS] But... want.
DAMMIT. I NEED NEW INFOS!!!!
So... you are an infomaniac? 
DAMMIT. I NEED NEW INFOS!!!!
What sucks is that I don't think we'll be getting much until Gamescom.
You know what I wonder? If you played as a pro-mage in DA2, did Cullen still try to save, or even encounter, those 3 mages at the end and we just don't see it because Hawke isn't there to witness it first hand.
I mean, I'd presume that if the mages did show up then Cullen would have still tried to save them simply because by that point Cullen was still doubting Meredith and her actions/motivations. I like to believe that he did try to save them, but because Hawke wasn't there he had no potential back up to save them, so the conversation still played out but Meredith was like "tough sh!t, I'm killing them anyway!"
Your thoughts?
You know what I wonder? If you played as a pro-mage in DA2, did Cullen still try to save, or even encounter, those 3 mages at the end and we just don't see it because Hawke isn't there to witness it first hand.
I mean, I'd presume that if the mages did show up then Cullen would have still tried to save them simply because by that point Cullen was still doubting Meredith and her actions/motivations. I like to believe that he did try to save them, but because Hawke wasn't there he had no potential back up to save them, so the conversation still played out but Meredith was like "tough sh!t, I'm killing them anyway!"
Your thoughts?
I've thought about this too. On one hand, the mages actually try to surrender to Hawke, don't they? I wonder whether they would have bothered trying to surrender to Cullen, if Meredith was right there. On the other hand, I think they were probably desperate enough and maybe frightened enough about Orsino that they would have tried anyway.
I think, either way, though, that you're right. I think Cullen would not have been able to save them, but maybe it would have been yet another catalyst edging Cullen past his "I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR SH!T!" point.
There are a ton of things like this that make me excited to learn more about him, from his own mouth.
I've thought about this too. On one hand, the mages actually try to surrender to Hawke, don't they? I wonder whether they would have bothered trying to surrender to Cullen, if Meredith was right there. On the other hand, I think they were probably desperate enough and maybe frightened enough about Orsino that they would have tried anyway.
I think, either way, though, that you're right. I think Cullen would not have been able to save them, but maybe it would have been yet another catalyst edging Cullen past his "I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR SH!T!" point.
There are a ton of things like this that make me excited to learn more about him, from his own mouth.
I was just playing through Cullen's story arc in DA:O to gather up clips for my video and it hit me (again) just how lucky we are to have him return in not only in DA2 but DAI as well, especially after the original epilogues. It's crazy to think such a minor character has made it into a hugely important role in DAI. Made me squee, lol.
Hmmm... Somebody give me some art ideas! I want to draw something cute and fluffy but my brain is empty right now.
Hmmm... Somebody give me some art ideas! I want to draw something cute and fluffy but my brain is empty right now.
Inquisitor Lavellan telling Cullen about herbs while in the Keep's garden but Cullen is distracted? I don't know, that was the first thing that popped into my head.
Hmmm... Somebody give me some art ideas! I want to draw something cute and fluffy but my brain is empty right now.
Cullen maintaining/fluffing his pauldrons. 
Hmmm... Somebody give me some art ideas! I want to draw something cute and fluffy but my brain is empty right now.
Inquisitor Lavellan telling Cullen about herbs while in the Keep's garden but Cullen is distracted? I don't know, that was the first thing that popped into my head.
*throws head back and cackles* I have just the thing. This is happening. This is happening.
These are all gold, thank you guys! 
Keep em coming! I have nothing else to do today lol. Praise be to the Homework Gods for their mercy.
*throws head back and cackles* I have just the thing. This is happening. This is happening.
These are all gold, thank you guys!
Cullen having to rise on his toes to kiss qunari Inquisitor's cheek? ^^
Omg, this is perfect! Found this on a Tumblr post by VieraLynn: "My Master, wrong or right."
The link attached to it leads to this:
My Master, Right or Wrong.
The liege orders: "Slaughter these peasants who raise against me as I'm working them to death."
The vassal answers: "They're asking for more food... perhaps they could work better if Your Greatness gave them some."
"No."
"Forgive my boldness, but doesn't that seem harsh?"
"I like being harsh, hurry up, take the army and mow them down!"
"Certainly, my lord." He answers, nauseated, and he goes and does it.
This is when a leader is cruel and, perhaps, incompetent, and the underling obeys him out of adherence to some ideal, while hating every minute of it.
The trope is mostly used in vaguely medieval settings. Feudalism, after all, is based on personal obligations to a liege-lord (in other structures, the loyalty is more impersonal, usually based on a community or an ideology). The underling usually is a minor noble of a warrior caste.
To make certain that the public understands that this character is not following out of Blind Obedience or sadism and in fact disagrees, he will get a lot of Pet the Dog moments, appeal to his liege to re-think a decision, begs for the lives of others, angst visibly when he's alone, and try to twist his orders a little if possible.He often doesn't even consider the heroes his enemy and is an honorable opponent. Also, he might be seen as suffering as much under his lord as the next subject, for sympathy points.
These types tend to be The Fettered who have sworn an oath to unreliable leaders and refuse to break their word. Such characters are prone to Heel-Face Turn because all they need is to broaden their ethic horizon a bit. It's also popular for some deliberate values dissonance, presenting feudal ideals and showing the modern public how an obviously compassionate man can be made to freely follow obviously cruel orders.
I think this is the most likely scenario,without Hawke backing him up,I doubt Cullen would have managed to save the surrendering mages.You know what I wonder? If you played as a pro-mage in DA2, did Cullen still try to save, or even encounter, those 3 mages at the end and we just don't see it because Hawke isn't there to witness it first hand.
I mean, I'd presume that if the mages did show up then Cullen would have still tried to save them simply because by that point Cullen was still doubting Meredith and her actions/motivations. I like to believe that he did try to save them, but because Hawke wasn't there he had no potential back up to save them, so the conversation still played out but Meredith was like "tough sh!t, I'm killing them anyway!"
Your thoughts?
I've thought about this too. On one hand, the mages actually try to surrender to Hawke, don't they? I wonder whether they would have bothered trying to surrender to Cullen, if Meredith was right there. On the other hand, I think they were probably desperate enough and maybe frightened enough about Orsino that they would have tried anyway.
I think, either way, though, that you're right. I think Cullen would not have been able to save them, but maybe it would have been yet another catalyst edging Cullen past his "I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR SH!T!" point.
There are a ton of things like this that make me excited to learn more about him, from his own mouth.
I made a thing... its not cute or fluffy. I am soooo sorry. I cried while I was writing and I was like why do I do this to myself?!!? And then I was like, ok self, make everyone else cry too.
Maybe its because Im so goofy most of the time that side just must come out.
I made a thing... its not cute or fluffy. I am soooo sorry. I cried while I was writing and I was like why do I do this to myself?!!? And then I was like, ok self, make everyone else cry too.
Maybe its because Im so goofy most of the time that side just must come out.
Strange. It says I have to register first. This hasn't happened before.
There's death and drama. Im not sure how to fix it on DA... Im all techno girl, except on the web, and then it's like derp...
*Wipes tears*I made a thing... its not cute or fluffy. I am soooo sorry. I cried while I was writing and I was like why do I do this to myself?!!? And then I was like, ok self, make everyone else cry too.
http://fav.me/d7sivb3
Maybe its because Im so goofy most of the time that side just must come out.
There's death and drama. Im not sure how to fix it on DA... Im all techno girl, except on the web, and then it's like derp...
Spoiler
My gawd. That better not happen in my game!
I think this is the most likely scenario,without Hawke backing him up,I doubt Cullen would have managed to save the surrendering mages.
I also believe that he tried though.It's also interesting to note,that if Hawke allows the Templars to kill them,Cullen looks sad/distressed.
So I'd say that it sort of indicates,that he'd probably object to it anyway.
I've been looking on YouTube trying to find the scene in DA2 where Hawke actually has those 3 mages killed, I wanted to see the expression on Cullen's face when it happens but everyone who seems to have uploaded it all saved them, lol.
I've been looking on YouTube trying to find the scene in DA2 where Hawke actually has those 3 mages killed, I wanted to see the expression on Cullen's face when it happens but everyone who seems to have uploaded it all saved them, lol.
I don't have a timestamp, but it's in this video.
https://www.youtube....h?v=LWsgNLO90Ss
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