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Ohh can't wait!

 

I kinda got all batty this arvo when talking to a teacher about DA in general. She used to play games as a kid but got genre's mixed up etc but FINALLY someone was interested in my babble and my excitement for DAI... she liked that decisions matter and not glossed over like they never happened. Its something that I'm really excited for even though it will probably be nerve racking trying to make the best decision my quizzy feels possible

 

That just reminded me of something! My boyfriend had a customer in the other day and whilst he was tattooing him the guy mentioned that he was a gamer and was really looking forward to Dragon Age (I think my poor bf probably groaned having had me bend his ear about it non-stop for years, LOL!) But anyway, they got into a conversation about the game and he told the guy about the Cullen thread and said "I dunno how you feel about Cullen, but I'm pretty sure one of the main reasons he made it into in a big way as a LI is due to my girlfriend and the Cullenites campaigning for it". I laughed when he told me.


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It really. Doesn't make any sense. At all. At first I thought that it was actually made out of two separate pieces of clothing, but it's just. How--wha--why. kasdal. Why the tie?!?

 

Cullen's clothing defies all the known laws of physics. >.> 

 

Thus why I'm ignoring the existence of the tie at the back until I have to glare at it in game.  :lol:


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#61053
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Yesssss! And I'm ridiculously excited about that!

 

I always wanted the PC to be as involved as the companions-- it's why I like Hawke! Even though I didn't personally pick the banter he joined in on, his joining in rather than just listening made him feel much more involved with his companions and the stories he was getting mixed up in. Inquisition seems to be taking that to the most awesome of levels, though!

 

We can headcanon all we want to make our characters well rounded, of course, but there's a definite difference to headcanoning how our characters develop and being able to play it out in game~

 

I find it so difficult to go back and play DA:O due to the lack of a voiced protagonist.

 

It literally wasn't until I made my canon male sarcastic Hawke that I truly appreciated how much more engaging it is when your character is fully voiced! (I didn't play Mass Effect until closer to ME3's release, due to seeing so many people play through it). I know there's an argument to be made that RPGs are better with a silent protagonist for RPing reasons, but for the type of RPG that BioWare makes, I personally feel that having the main character voiced is so much better because their games are so heavily focused on the characters and their development, which leaves a voiceless PC feeling very disjointed and bland in comparison.

 

Hell, we even had to headcanon Hawke's character development to an extent due to all the time jumps, so to actively be able to grow and shape are character in-game in real time is going to be so cool! I think once I've found my favourite Inquisitor to play as with the right voice, attitude, physical appearance etc he/she will end up being my favourite protagonist out of all the BioWare games so far.


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#61054
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It really. Doesn't make any sense. At all. At first I thought that it was actually made out of two separate pieces of clothing, but it's just. How--wha--why. kasdal. Why the tie?!?

 

Cullen's clothing defies all the known laws of physics. >.> 

 

Maybe if he pulls on that little string it makes all his armor fall off... easy access 'n' all that!  :lol:


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I find it so difficult to go back and play DA:O due to the lack of a voiced protagonist.

 

It literally wasn't until I made my canon male sarcastic Hawke that I truly appreciated how much more engaging it is when your character is fully voiced! (I didn't play Mass Effect until closer to ME3's release, due to seeing so many people play through it). I know there's an argument to be made that RPGs are better with a silent protagonist for RPing reasons, but for the type of RPG that BioWare makes, I personally feel that having the main character voiced is so much better because their games are so heavily focused on the characters and their development, which leaves a voiceless PC feeling very disjointed and bland in comparison.

 

Hell, we even had to headcanon Hawke's character development to an extent due to all the time jumps, so to actively be able to grow and shape are character in-game in real time is going to be so cool! I think once I've found my favourite Inquisitor to play as with the right voice, attitude, physical appearance etc he/she will end up being my favourite protagonist out of all the BioWare games so far.

 

I couldn't like this more than once, so I'mma quote it.  :lol:

 

I feel I'm going to become ridiculously attached to my Inquisitors, especially which ever one ends up my favourite. What's even more exciting, is that this will pave the way for other Dragon Age/Bioware protagonists. After all, I can't see them ever scrapping the reaction wheel now that they've come up with it and figured out how to implement it.  :wub:


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Maybe if he pulls on that little string it makes all his armor fall off... easy access 'n' all that!  :lol:

 

 I almost choked on my rice pudding reading that!


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#61057
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 I almost choked on my rice pudding reading that!

 

Damn, I must be losing my touch!



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Maybe if he pulls on that little string it makes all his armor fall off... easy access 'n' all that!  :lol:

 

Nah. I think he'd make us have to work for it.  ;)

 

That and can you imagine how bad that could be in a battle? :S Or the mayhem that would ensue, if say, Sera were to pull it in the middle of a serious War Room meeting just for funsies? 


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Nah. I think he'd make us have to work for it.  ;)

 

That and can you imagine how bad that could be in a battle? :S Or the mayhem that would ensue, if say, Sera were to pull it in the middle of a serious War Room meeting just for funsies? 

 

 

 

Now I want this.

 

Make it so, Bioware!


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Nah. I think he'd make us have to work for it.  ;)

 

That and can you imagine how bad that could be in a battle? :S Or the mayhem that would ensue, if say, Sera were to pull it in the middle of a serious War Room meeting just for funsies

First thing that popped into my head was, pull harder? you know put a little effort into it... don't think that's what you meant though ;)


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Now I want this.

 

Make it so, Bioware!

 

It'll be good for morale! ;)

 

 

First thing that popped into my head was, pull harder? you know put a little effort into it... don't think that's what you meant though ;)

 

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Well, I did say I think he'd make us have to work for it.  :lol:


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Hell, we even had to headcanon Hawke's character development to an extent due to all the time jumps, so to actively be able to grow and shape are character in-game in real time is going to be so cool! I think once I've found my favourite Inquisitor to play as with the right voice, attitude, physical appearance etc he/she will end up being my favourite protagonist out of all the BioWare games so far.

 

This is part of the reason I simply cannot play ME/DA2 without using the default Shepard/Hawke appearance anymore, because I can't picture the voices coming out of any other face save those that we started with. The only exception is FemShep, who I make a redhead, not a brunette as in default and as much as I like the new FemShep default for ME3, I still can't bring myself to abandon the old face for.



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This is part of the reason I simply cannot play ME/DA2 without using the default Shepard/Hawke appearance anymore, because I can't picture the voices coming out of any other face save those that we started with. The only exception is FemShep, who I make a redhead, not a brunette as in default and as much as I like the new FemShep default for ME3, I still can't bring myself to abandon the old face for.

 

I've never been able to play default Shep/Warden/Hawke just because it's not how I envision my characters. I like Shep's look but I have a thing about not playing brunettes... (I have a complex cause I've gone from naturally a super bright blonde kid to a dark ash blonde & my aunt likes to tease me that I'm not a blonde anymore more). I just hope there's more variety in the CC when it comes to hair colour and complexion... even make up! I don't really wear any irl so I don't like the colour options that are offen given even though it does have intensity slider.

 

EDIT: bit bored, can anyone recommend good fanfics? doesn't have to be purely Cullen related


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This is part of the reason I simply cannot play ME/DA2 without using the default Shepard/Hawke appearance anymore, because I can't picture the voices coming out of any other face save those that we started with. The only exception is FemShep, who I make a redhead, not a brunette as in default and as much as I like the new FemShep default for ME3, I still can't bring myself to abandon the old face for.

 

Well, Inquisition will have two voices to choose from for each gender, so...!  :wizard:


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This is part of the reason I simply cannot play ME/DA2 without using the default Shepard/Hawke appearance anymore, because I can't picture the voices coming out of any other face save those that we started with. The only exception is FemShep, who I make a redhead, not a brunette as in default and as much as I like the new FemShep default for ME3, I still can't bring myself to abandon the old face for.

 

I wonder if that's one of the reasons why we don't have default appearances for DAI like we did for Mass Effect and DA2? All of the Inquisitors we have seen each have been vastly different or have been wearing a helmet, that way we won't feel obliged to use the default and can literally make our protagonist look however we want without the voice seeming jarring coming from anything other than the default.


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I wonder if that's one of the reasons why we don't have default appearances for DAI like we did for Mass Effect and DA2? All of the Inquisitors we have seen each have been vastly different or have been wearing a helmet, that way we won't feel obliged to use the default and can literally make our protagonist look however we want without the voice seeming jarring coming from anything other than the default.

 

I personally never had this problem-- in fact I find the section we play with default!Hawke jarring. Especially when my canon Hawke is dark skinned. Really awkward that, apparently, the 'story' of Hawke everyone knows depicts him as white.  :blink: 

 

Still, I think this might be the case. Without even a default, unless you count that first preset as a 'default', there's a definite 'make your own inquisitor' feel to the game.



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I personally never had this problem-- in fact I find the section we play with default!Hawke jarring. Especially when my canon Hawke is dark skinned. Really awkward that, apparently, the 'story' of Hawke everyone knows depicts him as white.  :blink:

 

Still, I think this might be the case. Without even a default, unless you count that first preset as a 'default', there's a definite 'make your own inquisitor' feel to the game.

 

I don't have that problem either, if anything I have the opposite in that I actually find male Hawke's voice jarring coming out of any other Hawke but my own, LOL! Although, of all the other male Hawke's I've seen it definitely feels a little less jarring coming from the default Hawke. In regards to people thinking Hawke was white, I always just assumed that if your Hawke looked different to the default then it was supposed to be Varric trying to throw Cassandra off the scent since he didn't know quite why Cassandra wanted information. My Hawke is of a Rivaini skin tone, so he definitely doesn't look anything like default, LOL!

 

Yeah, I suppose you could count the preset faces as default but not default in the way that the default Shepard's and Hawke's had a very distinct unique look, whereas the presets generally just look like any old npc you'd walk past in-game... if that makes sense?


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I wonder if that's one of the reasons why we don't have default appearances for DAI like we did for Mass Effect and DA2? All of the Inquisitors we have seen each have been vastly different or have been wearing a helmet, that way we won't feel obliged to use the default and can literally make our protagonist look however we want without the voice seeming jarring coming from anything other than the default.

 

It seems like they're going in that direction, with the human male Inquisitor we've seen thusfar always wearing his helm and being depicted on the box art with his back to us. Which is good I suppose, since I don't really see Harry Hadden-Paton's rather epic voice as "fitting" that particular appearance, which seems a little too unremarkable imo.

 

(Not to say that all Inquisitor's have to be adonises or model-esque, but he seems too... generic, I suppose. I suppose his being someone you'd not recognise in a crowd is because he's supposed to be someone thrown into the role, but he still doesn't have anything memorable about his look that'd make you remember him either).



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I don't have that problem either, if anything I have the opposite in that I actually find male Hawke's voice jarring coming out of any other Hawke but my own, LOL! Although, of all the other male Hawke's I've seen it definitely feels a little less jarring coming from the default Hawke. In regards to people thinking Hawke was white, I always just assumed that if your Hawke looked different to the default then it was supposed to be Varric trying to throw Cassandra off the scent since he didn't know quite why Cassandra wanted information. My Hawke is of a Rivaini skin tone, so he definitely doesn't look anything like default, LOL!

 

Yeah, I suppose you could count the preset faces as default but not default in the way that the default Shepard's and Hawke's had a very distinct unique look, whereas the presets generally just look like any old npc you'd walk past in-game... if that makes sense?

 

High five for Rivaini Hawkes!  :D

 

And yeah, that's a good idea about the over dramatised start with default Hawke! 

 

Man, I can't wait to see how Varric interacts with the Inquisitor compared to Hawke.  :o


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It seems like they're going in that direction, with the human male Inquisitor we've seen thusfar always wearing his helm and being depicted on the box art with his back to us. Which is good I suppose, since I don't really see Harry Hadden-Paton's rather epic voice as "fitting" that particular appearance, which seems a little too unremarkable imo.

 

(Not to say that all Inquisitor's have to be adonises or model-esque, but he seems too... generic, I suppose. I suppose his being someone you'd not recognise in a crowd is because he's supposed to be someone thrown into the role, but he still doesn't have anything memorable about his look that'd make you remember him either).

 

I think you're right. Even that Qunari female we saw from the demo is relatively unremarkable beyond being the first female Qunari we've ever seen in-game... especially if DG's tweet about making a Qunari that was ridiculously attractive yesterday was anything to go by. It certainly seems like they've purposely played down the protagonist's physical appearance to prevent us associating a certain face with the voices, plus they probably don't want to show us Inquisitor's with REALLY unique facial features (like scars, freckles, interesting eye colours, hair styles etc) because that would ruin the CC surprise.



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I think you're right. Even that Qunari female we saw from the demo is relatively unremarkable beyond being the first female Qunari we've ever seen in-game... especially if DG's tweet about making a Qunari that was ridiculously attractive yesterday was anything to go by. It certainly seems like they've purposely played down the protagonist's physical appearance to prevent us associating a certain face with the voices, plus they probably don't want to show us Inquisitor's with REALLY unique facial features (like scars, freckles, interesting eye colours, hair styles etc) because that would ruin the CC surprise.

 

I imagine that's the case, yeah. Much like they went with dialogue options that revealed the least amount of information possible/speed through the conversation. Saying that, though, I rather like 'normal' looking characters too. I probably won't be playing with unusual eye colours too much except with the Qunari, because it's a little more natural for them and I don't want to go too out there.

 

I like the idea of the poor PC being a relatively normal guy or gal who has nothing 'unique' about them that automatically labels them as a 'main character'.... until sh!t pops off, they get thrown into the fade, and step out with a new glow in the dark hand.  :lol:

 

P.S:

 

Mr. Laidlaw's Dalish Inquisitor was a cutie, though! (She was Mr. Laidlaw's, right?)



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I imagine that's the case, yeah. Much like they went with dialogue options that revealed the least amount of information possible/speed through the conversation. Saying that, though, I rather like 'normal' looking characters too. I probably won't be playing with unusual eye colours too much except with the Qunari, because it's a little more natural for them and I don't want to go too out there.

 

I like the idea of the poor PC being a relatively normal guy or gal who has nothing 'unique' about them that automatically labels them as a 'main character'.... until sh!t pops off, they get thrown into the fade, and step out with a new glow in the dark hand.  :lol:

 

P.S:

 

Mr. Laidlaw's Dalish Inquisitor was a cutie, though! (She was Mr. Laidlaw's, right?)

 

Oh, I didn't mean like: "the Inquisitor is not only a badass but could also be a catwalk model" *blue steel*, but more that they'd purposely left out potential interesting facial features like scars and stuff that we know to already be in the CC.

 

Yeah the elf was ML's, lol.



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I'm interested to see some of the unique features we can give our Inquisitor with the CC, since we've not seen anything that stands out about the demo Inquisitor's thus far, certainly not on the level of Shepard's stubble-goatee and (Vanderloo's) hair scar, FemShep's red hair and freckles or Hawke's warpaint and epic beardness for males.

 

And Lola, now you've gotten me thinking that Hawke would be interesting as a Rivaini. I could easily picture Malcolm Hawke as being from Rivain given he's often described as being all dashing and rogueish, coupled with what we know of Rivaini mages being a lot more unconventional than most in Thedas...



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Nah. I think he'd make us have to work for it. ;)

That and can you imagine how bad that could be in a battle? :S Or the mayhem that would ensue, if say, Sera were to pull it in the middle of a serious War Room meeting just for funsies?

And then we would all laugh before my Quizzy punches her in the facies, because no one gets to pull Cullen's cord but the Quizzy and now I'm thinking about discreet under the war table shenanigans because we all know that Cassandra's briefs are going to be dreadfully long and bore the crap out of the room and Quizzy will need something to make the day seem a bit brighter.
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Oh, I didn't mean like: "the Inquisitor is not only a badass but could also be a catwalk model" *blue steel*, but more that they'd purposely left out potential interesting facial features like scars and stuff that we know to already be in the CC.

 

Yeah the elf was ML's, lol.

 

Right, right! I'm hoping with the new engine/skin textures we'll be able to make characters that aren't catwalk models. I can't wait to see the scars/tattoos this time around and I really want to hope they get freckles and/or moles working for 'em. :D