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No, that couldn't work, because Laidlaw says the Inquisitor is the one who sent Leliana to Redcliffe.

 

Unless they were lying about the reason she's there, to avoid spoilers?

 

Although I must admit that I do like the idea of our sending her there causing her to become a much more harder person and dislike our Inquisitor as a result. It would be far better than the mechanic of hardening characters in Origins, where a conversation was enough to change her and Alistair's personality... having her suffer torture because we screwed up would definitely leave me a lot more angry in general too.


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And for the weird off-topic Voyager talk... I support the reviewer SFDebris' take on Harry Kim, as it's completely obvious that he's secretly in love with Tom Paris if you watch most of the subtext of their scenes, but it's a one-sided crush and he's very much in denial about it. It would also explain why Harry ends up repeatedly seeking out unattainable women as well, who he can neither get or stay with for long.

 

OT ST: VOY stuff:

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#61753
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I wonder if, under the conditions seen in that demo, would all 3 advisors end up being tortured like we saw happening to Leliana, or is that scene unique and only available to Leliana's circumstance? So by sending in Cullen or Josephine instead, even with the identical choices and decisions made previously that built up to this moment Cullen's/Josephine's scene would be completely different with perhaps no torture occurring at all?

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No, that couldn't work, because Laidlaw says the Inquisitor is the one who sent Leliana to Redcliffe.

Also,For some reason I kind of doubt that Dorian,the Bull,Sera and Vivienne,all four were recruited so early in the game.
The demo gave me the impression,that it took place in later stages of the game after the majority of the companions (if not all)are recruited.Pretty much at the point were the inquisition is starting to have power and influence,hence why the npcs are so respectful towards the Inquisitor.

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I wonder if, under the conditions seen in that demo, would all 3 advisors end up being tortured like we saw happening to Leliana, or is that scene unique and only available to Leliana's circumstance? So by sending in Cullen or Josephine instead, even with the identical choices and decisions made previously that built up to this moment Cullen's/Josephine's scene would be completely different with perhaps no torture occurring at all?

 

I still think there's more to it than just sending in one of the advisors, like how's the strength in Cullen's faction or Leliana/Josephine



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Unless they were lying about the reason she's there, to avoid spoilers?

I highly, highly doubt they would lie. What would be the reason? They would more likely say nothing about the reason than lie about it. So it's best to assume they are telling the truth. Maybe not the whole truth, but they are being truthful. Cause lying about that stuff could damage their reputation, cause if they lie about that, what else could they have lied about?
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Also remember Gaider just likes to come in and "kick down the sandcastle" by stopping speculation so it doesn't turn into a blazing fire of theories and assumptions. 

 

That scene could be entirely the one we can see in the game. 

 

True, Gaider does prefer to level with us and try to nip outlandish game speculation in the bud.

 

Blame creators like Steven Moffat for causing current nerd fandom to assume that all creators are always trolling us and lying through their teeth about everything, to pull the wool over our eyes when they reveal something shocking! :lol:


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I still think there's more to it than just sending in one of the advisors, like how's the strength in Cullen's faction or Leliana/Josephine


Definitely. The way the devs worded it made it sound like it wasn't just down to previous choices and actions taken in quests, but also how much we had prepared prior to it. Perhaps we didn't put enough resources into Leliana's faction of the Inquisition so we lacked information and resources, thus resulting in her capture, whereas if we had prepared then it would have played out differently etc.
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I wonder if, under the conditions seen in that demo, would all 3 advisors end up being tortured like we saw happening to Leliana, or is that scene unique and only available to Leliana's circumstance? So by sending in Cullen or Josephine instead, even with the identical choices and decisions made previously that built up to this moment Cullen's/Josephine's scene would be completely different with perhaps no torture occurring at all?

 

With the focus on decisions having consequences, I certainly hope so! 


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Definitely. The way the devs worded it made it sound like it wasn't just down to previous choices and actions taken in quests, but also how much we had prepared prior to it. Perhaps we didn't put enough resources into Leliana's faction of the Inquisition so we lacked information and resources, thus resulting in her capture, whereas if we had prepared then it would have played out different etc.


Yea and Alexius made a comment during the fight that made me think Leliana's group got killed because they fully prepared
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Yea and Alexius made a comment during the fight that made me think Leliana's group got killed because they fully prepared

I figured that as well.

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Like R2 said, you can create your protagonist to be within the early 20's to 40's age range. That being said, I'm sure the CC will let you create characters that look WAY older than 40's, you always could in the previous games.

 

As for my first Inquisitor, since she's going to be me she'll be 28, just under 6 months off her 29th birthday when I start the game in November lol... thank feck I look younger than my actual age, LOL!

It'd be nice to be able to choose the age you want the inquisitor to be. I could never come up with a logical reason in DAO for the human noble, the city elf, or a mage to be older than 18 to 21. I don't know if I want to create an inquisitor who looks 50ish, but I'd prefer to look older than my children at least, lol.



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Definitely. The way the devs worded it made it sound like it wasn't just down to previous choices and actions taken in quests, but also how much we had prepared prior to it. Perhaps we didn't put enough resources into Leliana's faction of the Inquisition so we lacked information and resources, thus resulting in her capture, whereas if we had prepared then it would have played out differently etc.

Yes,they gave me the same impression.
I really like the sound of that though,it will definitely make each playthrough unique.
So far,it seems that the game will present some interesting dilemmas to the player,according to our choices,resources etc.
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#61764
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Yea and Alexius made a comment during the fight that made me think Leliana's group got killed because they fully prepared


Something like "where are your assassins now!" Wasn't it? So it sounds like she'd gone in there with a group and the plan went completely ****** up, resulting in the deaths of a chunk of Leliana's faction and her subsequent torture. Perhaps sending Cullen in with his soldiers, despite his experience, would lead to a similar result if you haven't prepared properly, and instead Alexus would say something like "where are your soldiers now!"

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I suspect Cullen's plan would be to either storm the Castle or to blockade it and have our party infiltrate it once it's secure.

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With the focus on decisions having consequences, I certainly hope so!

Exactly!From the news we had so far about inquisition,I'm not disappointed.
And not only as far as the plot is concerned,the Inquisitor is able to affect the ecosystem or the economy of an area.That's pretty awesome!

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I suspect Cullen's plan would be to either storm the Castle or to blockade it and have our party infiltrate it once it's secure.


He'd probably want to take any ex-Templars in his army with him because they know they'd potentially be dealing with mages that had got out of control, along with demons so they would need all the smitey-ness available to them, lol!
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#61768
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He'd probably want to take any ex-Templars in his army with him because they know they'd potentially be dealing with mages that had got out of control, along with demons so they would need all the smitey-ness available to them, lol!

Hmmm, perhaps it'd be prudent to speak to some of the rebel Templars as well. Also, maybe we can find a way to get some lyrium for both our mages and Templars. I wonder if that lyrium deal from DAO will come back. Maybe we could requisition the same guy.

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I suspect Cullen's plan would be to either storm the Castle or to blockade it and have our party infiltrate it once it's secure.

I suspect the same,although I was thinking wouldn't it make more sense if the Inquisitor joined them during the attack,rather than after?
After all,they would need someone to keep the rifts in check and prevent more demons from spawning from the fade and eventually outnumbering them.

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Hmmm, perhaps it'd be prudent to speak to some of the rebel Templars as well. Also, maybe we can find a way to get some lyrium for both our mages and Templars. I wonder if that lyrium deal from DAO will come back. Maybe we could requisition the same guy.

That makes me wonder,now that the divine is dead and the chantry appears to be in shambles,who controls the lyrium trade on the surface?

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That makes me wonder,now that the divine is dead and the chantry appears to be in shambles,who controls the lyrium trade on the surface?

I think the Chantry still holds the contract. Granted, I think they are sent into chaos, so Cassandra could potentially make use of that. If we ever get the chance to wrest control of the lyrium trade, I'll bring her.
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#61773
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Will the mages even need the lyrium though, since the Fade has spilled everywhere and seems easily accessible?



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It'd be nice to be able to choose the age you want the inquisitor to be. I could never come up with a logical reason in DAO for the human noble, the city elf, or a mage to be older than 18 to 21. I don't know if I want to create an inquisitor who looks 50ish, but I'd prefer to look older than my children at least, lol.

 

You know, I might be in the minority but I'd actually enjoy it if we could play as an older character like Duncan, Wynne or Blackwall and who had adult children in a future game. I prefer it when we're given something different to roleplay and provided with at least some backstory, rather than the same black slate everytime.

 

It's strange that while we often see characters in games over 40, we rarely ever see them as main protagonists, but rather consigned to the mentor roles, who typically end up dying halfway through the game. Can we get an Obi Wan as the main character and who lives just once?


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Will the mages even need the lyrium though, since the Fade has spilled everywhere and seems easily accessible?

I think the mages could theoretically begin using new and unknown types of magic due to the Fade merging with reality, but lyrium merely gives them more energy with which to cast spells.


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