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I would like to see Cullen mention the events of the Broken Circle and the mage-templar war in Kirkwall and maybe the warden (of any origin) and Hawke, after all those events had a major impact in his life. 

As for the Amell/Surana crush, personally i don`t mind if he mention it or if he doesn`t (it was part of his past) but since my Amell only had eyes for Alistair  :P and my inquisitor will have his eyes on Cullen, i do hope that Cullen has move on from that crush a long time ago  :lol:



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I have a complete bastard male Cousland Warden who anulled the Circle, and unfortunately the Hawke I imported that Warden for sided with the mages so I missed out on Cullen's speech at the Gallows if he's asked for his opinion on sparing the three surrendering mages (if Hawke sides with the templars) where, if the Warden anulled the Circle, Cullen expresses regret that the mages could not be saved.

Of course, I'm aware of that dialogue because I've since viewed it on YouTube, but it would be nice to hear more from Cullen about the Kinloch Hold crisis, and perhaps how his views have changed since then. After the infamous Origins epilogue slides involving Cullen, I was happily surprised to hear him express a desire to protect innocent mages. :)

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So would I...wait, there is dialogue for that? O_o (dashes off to find it)



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Do you guys think he will mention Amell/Surana if you import a non mage world? He didn't mention Amell to Hawke unless they were the warden right?

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Do you guys think he will mention Amell/Surana if you import a non mage world? He didn't mention Amell to Hawke unless they were the warden right?

 

I think if you do not import a Mage Warden you will not hear about them.  For one he would have to mention them in a gender neutral way since their is no cannon sex for the unplayed Wardens.  There just would be nothing to talk about.



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Do you guys think he will mention Amell/Surana if you import a non mage world? He didn't mention Amell to Hawke unless they were the warden right?

I don`t think he will mention the Amell\Surana crush if you import a warden from the other origins. In DAII he only talks about her if your warden were from the mage origin.



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I can't wait for Cullen and Cassandra to hook up in Inquisition so all of the Cullen/Warden, Cullen/Hawke, and Cullen/Inquisitor fans can finally come together and mourn in solidarity :P

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I can't wait for Cullen and Cassandra to hook up in Inquisition so all of the Cullen/Warden, Cullen/Hawke, and Cullen/Inquisitor fans can finally come together and mourn in solidarity :P

 

Naw Cassandra will be to busy making googly eyes at my Inquisitor.


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So how do you think Cullen will react to use siding with the mages?  Even if he has grown and changed his views he will still hold to the knowledge that mages are dangerous.  There is no denying that things in the Fereldan circle went to hell.  I just can't see him accepting letting mages govern themselves.



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While I agree it was just a crush, it should NOT be forgotten that he did have a crush. Its part of WHO he is.

By denying it you are erasing a part of who he is.


No, that's just apart of his PAST. His crush does not define who he is and it would be insulting to his character if that was made to be a huge deal to him. If realism is truly what they crave in the game, plenty of people have had crushes in their past. But we don't dwell on them and I hope that they don't make him out to have a huge issue about not getting with the Warden. It's NOT who he is and what defines him as a person and I would be extremely disappointed if Bioware made it so that crush was the biggest thing to ever shape him. I've said it before and I'll repeat myself, I don't mind him talking about the crush in PASSING. He already mentioned it in DA2, it's been over a decade so let the guy be at peace with it. I don't want them to make a HUGE deal about it. That's all I'm stating.
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No, that's just apart of his PAST. His crush does not define who he is and it would be insulting to his character if that was made to be a huge deal to him. If realism is truly what they crave in the game, plenty of people have had crushes in their past. But we don't dwell on them and I hope that they don't make him out to have a huge issue about not getting with the Warden. It's NOT who he is and what defines him as a person and I would be extremely disappointed if Bioware made it so that crush was the biggest thing to ever shape him. I've said it before and I'll repeat myself, I don't mind him talking about the crush in PASSING. He already mentioned it in DA2, it's been over a decade so let the guy be at peace with it. I don't want them to make a HUGE deal about it. That's all I'm stating.

 

I agree with this 100%.  Even if he truly was all messed up that he never got to be with the Warden that was over10 years ago.  If you are still pining about a simple crush that never went beyond some stuttering and staring you have major problems.  If half Cullen's story is him talking about the Warden it will be EXTREMLY disappointing and very bad writing. 


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I agree with this 100%. Even if he truly was all messed up that he never got to be with the Warden that was over10 years ago. If you are still pining about a simple crush that never went beyond some stuttering and staring you have major problems. If half Cullen's story is him talking about the Warden it will be EXTREMLY disappointing and very bad writing.

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I doubt that it would be, but I think if we import the female Mage, it would get mentioned. No matter, I just would like to hear about his time in Kinloch and how he met the mage, either gender, if you import that. If not, just learning of his time there would be nice. Much like getting to know his thoughts about Hawke and about his/her decision to side with the Templars or Mages.

 

I want to actually know about this guy and his thoughts, especially now we have a chance to spend more time with him. So if the infatuation is brought up in passing, then fine. The fact that he only mentioned it once in DA 2 suggests that he is still somewhat in pain but probably started to move on from it. Though...did they say it was a crush or that he actually fell in love with her?



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I doubt that it would be, but I think if we import the female Mage, it would get mentioned. No matter, I just would like to hear about his time in Kinloch and how he met the mage, either gender, if you import that. If not, just learning of his time there would be nice. Much like getting to know his thoughts about Hawke and about his/her decision to side with the Templars or Mages.

I want to actually know about this guy and his thoughts, especially now we have a chance to spend more time with him. So if the infatuation is brought up in passing, then fine. The fact that he only mentioned it once in DA 2 suggests that he is still somewhat in pain but probably started to move on from it. Though...did they say it was a crush or that he actually fell in love with her?


If you look at his codex in DA2, it will give more of a perspective. But, he stares up at the sky wistfully and longingly as he spoke fondly of the female Amell. Granted, only a year or so had passed since he was in Ferelden so it didn't bother me too much, then. Now, any longing in his voice would really creep me out and cause me to seriously question mental state. I'd be afraid to romance my Inquisitor to a guy who, after an entire decade, still isn't over the girl he barely even spoke to. He can speak of the warden, yes, but it should only be with respect, not longing over some old time crush. It's not normal to dwell on something like that.
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No, that's just apart of his PAST. His crush does not define who he is and it would be insulting to his character if that was made to be a huge deal to him. If realism is truly what they crave in the game, plenty of people have had crushes in their past. But we don't dwell on them and I hope that they don't make him out to have a huge issue about not getting with the Warden. It's NOT who he is and what defines him as a person and I would be extremely disappointed if Bioware made it so that crush was the biggest thing to ever shape him. I've said it before and I'll repeat myself, I don't mind him talking about the crush in PASSING. He already mentioned it in DA2, it's been over a decade so let the guy be at peace with it. I don't want them to make a HUGE deal about it. That's all I'm stating.

 

I really don't understand why you don't want it acknowledged.   The events of Origins should not be forgotten.  I don't think they will make a big deal out of it but I do think it will be acknowledged,.


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That's the reason I asked because in the codex, it mentions that the other Templars thought he was in love with a mage and it pained him to hear.

 

But, considering there are six origins to go by and choose...I think we're in the clear of him still dwelling on her. :)



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I really don't understand why you don't want it acknowledged. The events of Origins should not be forgotten. I don't think they will make a big deal out of it but I do think it will be acknowledged,.


I don't think you're reading my posts correctly. I never said that.

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Im not really concerned about Cullen's crush. It should be acknowledged. Its part of his past.

 

I am more concerned with him acknowledging the abuses that occurred in Kirkwall's Circle.   The fact that mages were raped and tortured in Kirkwall NEEDS to be mentioned.     I will disappointed if that is glossed over.

 

I love Cullen.   His flaws/mistakes do need to be acknowledged and I don't want to see him glorified.


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Im not really concerned about Cullen's crush. It should be acknowledged. Its part of his past.

I am more concerned with him acknowledging the abuses that occurred in Kirkwall's Circle. The fact that mages were raped and tortured in Kirkwall NEEDS to be mentioned. I will disappointed if that is glossed over.

I love Cullen. His flaws/mistakes do need to be acknowledged and I don't want to see him glorified.


I would love to hear his side of what has occurred in the Gallows. That would be interesting! :)

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That's the reason I asked because in the codex, it mentions that the other Templars thought he was in love with a mage and it pained him to hear.

But, considering there are six origins to go by and choose...I think we're in the clear of him still dwelling on her. :)


Hmmmm maybe. But who knows if an Amell still exists even if you didn't play that origin?

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I want to actually know about this guy and his thoughts, especially now we have a chance to spend more time with him. So if the infatuation is brought up in passing, then fine. The fact that he only mentioned it once in DA 2 suggests that he is still somewhat in pain but probably started to move on from it. Though...did they say it was a crush or that he actually fell in love with her?

It's a good question. I'm not sure a crush would have been strong enough for his reaction to the demon's temptation myself. I never took his comment in DA 2 to indicate any sort of lingering attachment or regret, more a fond memory (there's a big difference between staying hung up on someone for years and positively remembering someone he once cared for). Hopefully, the writers will make everyone happy to some extent: if the mystery of the warden is discussed, he might mention he once knew the warden if from the tower, with an optional choice for the Inquisitor to ask further and find out he had (past tense) feelings for her. I can't imagine the writers would make a huge deal of it, but a little continuity is nice. I do think what happened at Kirkwall is generally far more significant, though.
 


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ShadowReign, I'm curious to know your thoughts on Varric and Bianca given your dislike of Cullen's implied feelings for a female mage Warden.
In Varric's case, it's been over a decade, yet he's named a crossbow after her and (this is just speculation) is romantically unavailable because of his feelings for her. Is that also unhealthy?

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ShadowReign, I'm curious to know your thoughts on Varric and Bianca given your dislike of Cullen's implied feelings for a female mage Warden.
In Varric's case, it's been over a decade, yet he's named a crossbow after her and (this is just speculation) is romantically unavailable because of his feelings for her. Is that also unhealthy?


Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Varric actually romantically involved with Bianca? That's more understandable than someone with whom you barely even spoke to and just had an infatuation of.
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