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[BioFan (Official)]

 

he was just joking, I hope you know. He didn't mean anything by it, he was trying to be silly, not rude. 

*crying gif snip*

 

 

 

Here, have some shortbread cookies

[Chanda]

Even though I'm gay I really wanted to romance Aveline lol! It's the personality type I always fall for. And I romanced Liara because Kaiden reminded me of an awful ex boyfriend. And Merrill because I didn't understand what was happening and was scared of hurting her feelings. Actually....oh my God I've mostly romanced women in bioware games lol!

 

I wanted to romance Aveline, too! I just thought she was awesome.

[SamaraDraven]

Well my apologies if I seem to be overly sensitive about it, as it's not even directed at me, but I have an extreeeeeeme distaste for anyone that would dismiss a person's orientation like that. I have real life experience with myself and friends receiving it and it raises my hackles. If a person says they don't romance someone - someone that they DO know is a pixelated character in a fantasy fiction - because of orientation, they don't need to be told "just pretend". But if I've blown it all out of context, I apologize. Carry on.

[LolaLei]

I actually really love how deeply wounded and hurt Cullen sounds when he says to Meredith that he defended her when others were accusing her of madness.

To me it seemed like he really didn't want to believe that she was a fruit loop because:

1) He obviously respected her at one point. Plus, she did give him a second chance at being a Templar, which is/was pretty much his life.

And

2) It must have shook the foundation of the beliefs and life he'd spent years rebuilding. Of course he wouldn't want to admit to himself that he was following a corrupt leader when (to begin with, at least) their opinions and beliefs were the same. Initially he probably saw a little bit of himself in Meredith, so to see what she had become - red Lyrium or not, (and what he very nearly became himself) would have likely scared the sh!t out of him!

To finally admit to himself that Meredith really was corrupt and mad after he'd been defending her for years probably messed with his head, especially since we know that deep down he'd been questioning her motives and the Order for a while since he says as much early into Act 3.

I'm sure he felt betrayed too, hell, I think a lot of us have been in a situation where we've trusted and defended a person to the point of blind loyalty only to discover that person was a liar/in the wrong/using you/cheating/whatever, even if deep down you knew/had a feeling that he/she wasn't being entirely honest/whatever. Apply those feelings to Cullen's situation on a grander scale and add the deaths of so many into the mix and I'm sure he'll at least be having a real crisis of not only his faith, but his own character.

[Jean]

I play as myself first go around. Want to see how bad I'll doom the world.

 

LI is chosen not from who I'd date but from which story I'm more interested in seeing

[BioFan (Official)]

I wonder if the DA franchise will ever make a character that is universally disliked for being a complete arsehole, like Joffrey is/was from GoT?

 

 

Hmmm.... I fell like we have one... but I can't quite put my finger on it...


OH WAIT:

[Chanda]

Well my apologies if I seem to be overly sensitive about it, as it's not even directed at me, but I have an extreeeeeeme distaste for anyone that would dismiss a person's orientation like that. I have real life experience with myself and friends receiving it and it raises my hackles. If a person says they don't romance someone - someone that they DO know is a pixelated character in a fantasy fiction - because of orientation, they don't need to be told "just pretend". But if I've blown it all out of context, I apologize. Carry on.

 

It's okay, I didn't know that Xil was a lesbian. So realizing that she's a lesbian made me think that maybe she tries different types of relationships when she's playing DA games. I just worded it poorly.

[R2s Muse]

I agree with you, it was more a general statement 

 

I would like some banter between the two about their respected jobs though. I can see Cullen whipping out the good 'ol "With all due respect (kiss my ass)" 

Oh I know! Sorry, I was only responding to you  because I was too lazy to go all the way back to where folks were first discussing.    

[xxKitRosalin]

Well my apologies if I seem to be overly sensitive about it, as it's not even directed at me, but I have an extreeeeeeme distaste for anyone that would dismiss a person's orientation like that. I have real life experience with myself and friends receiving it and it raises my hackles. If a person says they don't romance someone - someone that they DO know is a pixelated character in a fantasy fiction - because of orientation, they don't need to be told "just pretend". But if I've blown it all out of context, I apologize. Carry on.

 

I can understand as I have many family members and friends who are both of lesbian and gay orientation, however, it is important not to tackle people out of context. I can't speak about the second party that you had referred to in your post, but, I, myself, have never told her to "suck it up" by any means. I was only commenting on Chanda's post stating how Chanda plays, which is similar to my own. 

[Dirgegun]

Hmmm.... I fell like we have one... but I can't quite put my finger on it...


OH WAIT:

 

...?...??

 

People DISLIKED, that poor kid? Or are we talking about what happened to his family?

[BioFan (Official)]

This week was pretty slow in terms of news... hopefully we'll get something BIG next week? 

[xxKitRosalin]

This week was pretty slow in terms of news... hopefully we'll get something BIG next week? 

 

T'is a holiday weekend

[SamaraDraven]

It's okay, I didn't know that Xil was a lesbian. So realizing that she's a lesbian made me think that maybe she tries different types of relationships when she's playing DA games. I just worded it poorly.

 

It's alright. I'm probably just blinded by an ancient knee-jerk reaction. Many players do like to stay with their orientations and personalities while many others experiment. 'Tis natural to want to compare experiences.

[R2s Muse]

I actually really love how deeply wounded and hurt Cullen sounds when he says to Meredith that he defended her when others were accusing her of madness.

To me it seemed like he really didn't want to believe that she was a fruit loop because:

1) He obviously respected her at one point. Plus, she did give him a second chance at being a Templar, which is/was pretty much his life.

And

2) It must have shook the foundation of the beliefs and life he'd spent years rebuilding. Of course he wouldn't want to admit to himself that he was following a corrupt leader when (to begin with, at least) their opinions and beliefs were the same. Initially he probably saw a little bit of himself in Meredith, so to see what she had become - red Lyrium or not, (and what he very nearly became himself) would have likely scared the sh!t out of him!

To finally admit to himself that Meredith really was corrupt and mad after he'd been defending her for years probably messed with his head, especially since we know that deep down he'd been questioning her motives and the Order for a while since he's says as much early into Act 3.

I'm sure he felt betrayed too, hell, I think a lot of us have been in a situation where we've trusted and defended a person to the point of blind loyalty only to discover that person was a liar/in the wrong/using you/cheating/whatever, even if deep down you knew/had a feeling that he/she wasn't being entirely honest/whatever. Apply those feelings to Cullen's situation on a grander scale and add the deaths of so many into the mix and I'm sure he'll at least be having a real crisis of not only his faith, but his own character.

Agree! I am frankly fascinated with his relationship with Meredith. I always imagine how she might have mentored him as she elevated him in rank so early after coming to Kirkwall. Then, imagine how tough it must have been having a mentor start to go off the rails like that. He had a front row seat for Meredith's emerging craziness. I've been wanting to write a story about this...

[BioFan (Official)]

...?...??

 

People DISLIKED, that poor kid? Or are we talking about what happened to his family?

 

To answer your question with more questions:

 

"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
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[BioFan (Official)]

T'is a holiday weekend

 

 

ohhhh yeaaa....... right. 

[Shyviolet]

I don't play myself in any of Bioware's games, so I can easily have characters romance different people. I understand that people also like to play themselves, however, and that's why they only go with one gender or something. It's totally cool!

 

...Honestly if I rped myself, all my characters would be single. None of the characters we've had thus far have hit my usual personality types. None of the characters that are options, anyway. *eyes Varric, Sten, Vivienne if she ends up not an option, that one Turian general*  

 

I am so boring - I always play the goodliest double-shoed version of me possible. Always straight, always romance based on attractiveness both physical & mental. 

[Shyviolet]

T'is a holiday weekend

 

 

maybe they'll throw us some easter eggs.

[Chanda]

I can understand as I have many family members and friends who are both of lesbian and gay orientation, however, it is important not to tackle people out of context. I can't speak about the second party that you had referred to in your post, but, I, myself, have never told her to "suck it up" by any means. I was only commenting on Chanda's post stating how Chanda plays, which is similar to my own. 

 

It adds re-playability (not sure I spelled that right) to the games. I've played DAO I don't know how many times, and I'm finally playing as a male character, and I have every intention of romancing Zevran to get that angle of it. The only other time I played as a male character, I romanced Morrigan. I tried with Leliana, but the eyelash thing... What is it with her, and Merrill, with eyelashes?

[xxKitRosalin]

maybe they'll throw us some easter eggs.

 

So long as those eggs don't hi me in the eye.....I'm good

[Kirrahe1]

Did someone mention earlier today that bioware said in a twitter post that they were going to give us some kinda info that wasn't companion related but something?

[R2s Muse]

OH yeah! And the reason I came back to the thread. *squee* new Jhourney art!!

 

Cullen by Jhourney (linked because slightly NSFW)

[Dirgegun]

To answer your question with more questions:

 

"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
"Have you see my muh-tha?" 
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"Have you see my muh-tha?" 

 

 

I... don't hate characters for reasons like that? I'm not even bothered by how Isolde talks, so I guess I ruin that 'universally hated' theory. 

[xxKitRosalin]

It adds re-playability (not sure I spelled that right) to the games. I've played DAO I don't know how many times, and I'm finally playing as a male character, and I have every intention of romancing Zevran to get that angle of it. The only other time I played as a male character, I romanced Morrigan. I tried with Leliana, but the eyelash thing... What is it with her, and Merrill, with eyelashes?

 

LOL! Yeah, my current male character is romancing Morrigan.....he's kind of a jerk, especially to Alistair (I AM SO SORRY ALISTAIR MY BABY! ;3;). 

[Damate]

The thing is though at that point he already knows how dangerous, influential and powerful Hawke is at that time. Even if it wouldn't be mutiny it could still cause tons of damage for him (and much more importantly the Chantry and the Order) to warn Hawke about Meredith. Especially if he thinks (suspects) Hawke is Mage, or Hawke has shown Mage sympathetic leanings, or you know...he took his sister to the circle lol! So basically just ANY Hawke at this point lol! Also we don't hear a lot of his internal monologue so it may have been way worse then just doubts. I understand where you are coming from about wanting them to work together especially after that old friend line lol!
I know a lot of people think Cullen is clueless and oblivious but honestly I always figured he did know or suspect about Hawke being a Mage. He has that "I've heard some rumors" line which really confirms it for me. Poor Cullen, it isn't his fault the game was rushed lol! I did always wonder why he told Hawke that about himself or Bethany. I'm not sure if it was a warning or a thinly veiled threat.

Like and agreed! And I, personally, think that the rumors line was a bit of both a warning and a threat, really.

  

This is an important point, as I personally think this is key to his character. As I've often pointed out, he doesn't stand up to Meredith because he's saving Hawke, he stands up to her because "this is not what the Order stands for." He cites this issue several times throughout Act 3. I think he believes deeply in his faith and his Andraste-given duty. When you talk with him in Act 1 about  how the templars need to lighten up, his response is that, yes, maybe if everyone had a better education in the Chantry's tenets they "wouldn't go against the will of Andraste herself." Following the Order, the probably idealized version he sees in his head, is a huge part of his faith.

 

Yes, agreed. I never felt Cullen stood up at the end because of Hawke: It's because he simply couldn't reconcile Meredith's behavior with his own, deep seated beliefs. And I think, as Lola just pointed out, it must have cost him a lot to reach the point where he could no longer place the burden of his faith in the hands of a commander gone mad.

That said I'm curious to see what route they take with him in DAI: Will be be in the midst of a crisis of faith/duty because of Meredith's betrayal and the whole mess that happens with the Mage vs Templar war (and having to deal with still more atrocities and things-gone-horribly-wrong all around him)...
...or, alternatively, will it strengthen him? To stand up as he did and realize that his faith and duty can - and maybe must - exist beyond the possibly flawed dictates of fallible/human leaders? Maybe he'll have more resolve when it comes to trying to save the aspect of the Templars and his faith that he believes in so strongly; more willing to staunchly push for a return to what he believes the Order should represent and how they should act?

I dunno, but I think either route could be really interesting!

 

Gah they already responded! This thread moves to fast for my poor iPad typing skills!

Yeeah, ugh, tell me about it! I'm on an iPad too and I'm now exhausted. *collapses*