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[Owlfruit Potion]

Oh I see the value, it's just hard to not question the mental state of those who believe it. I also want to romance Cullen and I'd rather not him think I'm literally some kind of blessed and divine being. It's kinda unhealthy.

I think they could write it in a non-creepy way. As long as he doesn't believe we are Andraste etc., the Herald thing could just amount to him thinking the Maker has a particularly important plan for his lover. And I think many religious people would like to believe that their God shares their high esteem for their partner. Deep Space Nine had a similar situation for the platonic friendship between Captain Sisko and his first officer Kira Nerys--her people believed he was the emissary of their deities, and their relationship (usually / once he came to terms with being the Emissary) wasn't weird.

 

EDIT: But yeah, can totally also see how it could get weird. I just don't think it will.

[Johnny Shepard]

I actually didn't like Cullen in DA:O. I did feel sorry for him but feelt that he took one bad incident and decided that mages were a threat. It wan't until DA2 that I started to become a fan of his character (but when I first saw him in the game I did swear a little ) when I got to see the character grow from the weak mage-fearing mages-are-bad Templar he became in DA:O to a strong, fare and intelligent Templar who learned that mages are just people and treated them as such. Someone I could respect and like and who my Hawke would consider a friend. As I see it, he became what I feel Templars should be.

 

Anyway, I'm having a hard time deciding if my female elf should romance him or Sera. But I would like to see how he would react to being romanced by a mage so I might change my plan completely.

[R2s Muse]

Fanfic by R2:
 
https://www.fanficti...8490562/1/Trust
 

D'awww, my agent, meanie, at it again!

An illustration from that fic, tho... for more Cullen...



Finally you start to look human again.
by Chenria

My commission from Chenria!

[R2s Muse]

Oh I see the value, it's just hard to not question the mental state of those who believe it. I also want to romance Cullen and I'd rather not him think I'm literally some kind of blessed and divine being. It's kinda unhealthy.

I agree, but I can't really imagine them allowing the romance to go that way. I could instead see it as an interesting conversation: him reconciling this view of the Inquisitor as the savior or some such with his, erm, more personal view. Perhaps he could even joke about it a bit, even while turning serious and pondering what it all means. And worrying about the implications for you. Ah. So much fun romance potential!!

[Chrys]

Damn, every time I see/hear Cullen my interest in him goes up. I might have to actually go for him on my very second game. Considering I wasn't into him when I first learned he'd be in the game, that's quite an achievement. Oh well, I'm a convert now 

[Tinxa]

Repetitive-ness is a personal babe of my writing. I'm always trying to get around saying the same thing too frequently in my fic. Hence why I love Varric's nicknames. Lol!

 

It can get odd and annoying if done too much though. I was just reading something fantasyish the other day and the author kept refering to the viewpoint char (Mary the elven mage) in other "creative" ways. Instead of just writing "Mary did this and Mary did that" it was "Mary" then "the young elf" after that "reticent mage" and silly things like that   it took me out of the story competely and just looked silly. If Mary does something, just call her Mary...

[LolaLei]

Perhaps there are different religious titles based on our race. So a human inquisitor might be known as the Herald of Andraste, but the others may have a completely different title... It may still be "Herald" something or other, but the deity would change accordingly.

[BevH]

It must be tricky trying to write dialogue for a companion/character when they can't use the protagonist's first name, especially when the character is referencing them or talking to them from a friendship angle.

Exactly this. There's just too many possible names to have a given name be spoken. And thus, we're back to *Robert*   

[BFace]

Perhaps there are different religious titles based on our race. So a human inquisitor might be known as the Herald of Andraste, but the others may have a completely different title... It may still be "Herald" something or other, but the deity would change accordingly.

Ooooh. My little Lavellan could be the Herald of Mythal, which would be all sorts of fun, given some of my thoughts about Her anway. #rampantspeculation

[LolaLei]

It can get odd and annoying if done too much though. I was just reading something fantasyish the other day and the author kept refering to the viewpoint char (Mary the elven mage) in other "creative" ways. Instead of just writing "Mary did this and Mary did that" it was "Mary" then "the young elf" after that "reticent mage" and silly things like that it took me out of the story competely and just looked silly. If Mary does something, just call her Mary...

I was referring more to dialogue in the game, rather than written stories/novels, but I can see how both the retitiveness and the constant need to come up with different creative names/references would get a bit daft. I guess it's a case of trying to strike the balanced right.

[Chrys]

Perhaps there are different religious titles based on our race. So a human inquisitor might be known as the Herald of Andraste, but the others may have a completely different title... It may still be "Herald" something or other, but the deity would change accordingly.

 

Hmm, I don't think so. Being a herald of an elven deity, for example, would do nothing to rally the troops. Besides, the devs said some would view us a religious figure but that we could reject the title. I'm hoping that means humans can reject it as well, not that other races can claim a different religious meaning.

[LolaLei]

Hmm, I don't think so. Being a herald of an elven deity, for example, would do nothing to rally the troops. Besides, the devs said some would view us a religious figure but that we could reject the title. I'm hoping that means humans can reject it as well, not that other races can claim a different religious meaning.

True, but look at all the different races that will be working with us, the Inquisition won't consist of just humans. Being the Herald of Andraste won't mean diddly-squat to Dwarves, Qunari or Elves, particularly the Dalish. Plus, certain types of people from each race are likely going to think we've been sent down by their chosen deity to save the day anyway, just like some from every group are gonna think we just got lucky, or not give a toss either way.

[R2s Muse]

Best shot I could get, but they look like the sword of mercy on the chest.

You know, I think you're right. I'd been trying to figure out what the spiky things are on the new templar helmets. Seems they're feathers!

[LolaLei]

Plus, just because you reject a title, doesn't mean you can stop that person believing in it. You could tell them that you're not the Herald of Andraste until the cows come home, but if a character is that firm in their belief they'll still believe it, even if they stop referring to you as such out of respect.

[Chrys]

True, but look at all the different races that will be working with us, the Inquisition won't consist of just humans. Being the Herald of Andraste won't mean diddly-squat to Dwarves, Qunari or Elves, particularly the Dalish. Plus, certain types of people from each race are likely going to think we've been sent down by their chosen deity to save the day anyway, just like some from every group are gonna think we just got lucky, or not give a toss either way.

 

No, I agree we might be seen as a chosen figure by different religions and groups, but I don't think the Herald of Andraste title will change according to the race you're playing. I think it's something every PC will hear and either embrace or reject.

[Tinxa]

I was referring more to dialogue in the game, rather than written stories/novels, but I can see how both the retitiveness and the constant need to come up with different creative names/references would get a bit daft. I guess it's a case of trying to strike the balanced right.

 

Oh, I know. It was just something the conversation made me think of.

 

It's easier to avoid in games I suppose since NPCs mostly talk directly to us and constant name calling can be avoided. I know I almost never use names in conversation.

[R2s Muse]

True, but look at all the different races that will be working with us, the Inquisition won't consist of just humans. Being the Herald of Andraste won't mean diddly-squat to Dwarves, Qunari or Elves, particularly the Dalish. Plus, certain types of people from each race are likely going to think we've been sent down by their chosen deity to save the day anyway, just like some from every group are gonna think we just got lucky, or not give a toss either way.

I dunno. Given the Chantry involvement and the fact that most of the world isn't going to bow down to the "herald of Koslun," I doubt they'd switch it up. It's all probably political expediency anyway, so I doubt you'd have to be an Andrastian to be called "herald of Andraste." They've pointed all out all along that you don't have to be a devout Andrastian anyway... so seems odd to make all humans be that way, if you see what I mean.

[LolaLei]

Perhaps instead we'll get called the herald of the inquisition since we're now the leader of the revived organisation. Only time will tell.

[ClassicBox]

Hm. I wonder if Cullen having the feather pauldrons is at all relevant to as why the Templars are wearing feathers. (Not that the reason has to do with Cullen, but that the reason both are wearing them is similar.)

[R2s Muse]

Hm. I wonder if Cullen having the feather pauldrons is at all relevant to as why the Templars are wearing feathers. (Not that the reason has to do with Cullen, but that the reason both are wearing them is similar.)

Feathers are Frostbite's new awesome button??  

[LolaLei]

I dunno. Given the Chantry involvement and the fact that most of the world isn't going to bow down to the "herald of Koslun," I doubt they'd switch it up. It's all probably political expediency anyway, so I doubt you'd have to be an Andrastian to be called "herald of Andraste." They've pointed all out all along that you don't have to be a devout Andrastian anyway... so seems odd to make all humans be that way, if you see what I mean.

And like I said before, we'll likely have the option to tell them not to. Sternly. Especially if your character is atheist or from a different religion, cos it would be hugely insulting to a Dalish Elf that believes strongly in his or her own religion.

[R2s Muse]

And like I said before, we'll likely have the option to tell them not to. Sternly. Especially if your character is atheist or from a different religion, cos it would be hugely insulting to a Dalish Elf that believes strongly in his or her own religion.

I would hope so. Haven't they said something about how you'll actually get to state your religious views if you like? 

 

There was a point in the demo where you free the soldiers from the prison and they call you something, too, but I couldn't catch it. I can only assume it was also "herald"? 

[Joe25]

I don't remember Templars having red feathers in their helmets. Does this mean that they are the Red Templars or is this the new look for the Templars in DAI? 

[R2s Muse]

I don't remember Templars having red feathers in their helmets. Does this mean that they are the Red Templars or is this the new look for the Templars in DAI? 

They redesigned the 'regular' templar armor. These are the same dudes you fight in the E3 demo, and they're called "templar" not red templar.

[BevH]

I would hope so. Haven't they said something about how you'll actually get to state your religious views if you like? 

 

There was a point in the demo where you free the soldiers from the prison and they call you something, too, but I couldn't catch it. I can only assume it was also "herald"? 

Ok... gotta say it... Harold is the new *Robert*... oh, it's not spelled that way???