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[Dirgegun]

I think Cullen is probably more pro-Mage than he is pro-Templar right now, so picking the Templars over the Mages and then trying to re-establish things as they were would be a colossal mistake in his eyes, as it'd mean all those death meant nothing and didn't solve anything.

 

While I can cut her some slack for having just been through torture, I always think that Leliana's comment in the Redcliffe demo ("I want the world back") is at best hopefully naive and at worst, completely ignorant of everything that has lead up to this point.

 

The world Leliana wants back may have been peaceful, but it was built on an inherently flawed and fundamentally broken system. It reminds me of her comments to an Elven Warden in Origins where she's surprised to realise that she'd never questioned the inherent second-class citizenship status of Elves in Thedas and seemed to believe that the Elves were actually happy with being subservient to humans at every turn, because that was the way it had always been.

 

I think that Cullen on the other hand, probably recognises that things need to change.

 

I think Leliana's comment at that point is more like: 'I want a world that isn't being torn asunder by the fade, thanks.'

 

'Cause the breach is doing a helluva number on it. It's not about the wars or the systems or anything like that, it's about big arse Fade breach tearing everything completely apart.

[Galagraphia]

On Cullen's nose:

 

 

‏@Galagraphia

@bbattye may I ask a Cullen-related question? Does his nose keep changing, or it's just something the animation does with his nostrils?

 

@i_likesocks  

@Galagraphia @bbattye Lol you and that nose! 

 

@Galagraphia 

@i_likesocks @bbattye you don't understand the importance of Cullen's nose for world's art, Kelly!

 

‏@bbattye

@Galagraphia @i_likesocks Well, if the fate of art is on the line... his nose isn't different. But it scrunches a bit when he's upset.

[Dirgegun]

On Cullen's nose:

 

Now see, this makes me impossibly happy. It means the expressions are going to be fantastic in this game. I love DAII, but the expressions were.... well, could have been better. The movement was mostly only around the eyes, which made things a bit weird. 

[Hellion Rex]

Eeee! Wiccan avatar! 

Yup. Billy and Teddy are so damn adorable.

[BevH]

So Cullen has a tell?   I'll have to watch for that now so I know when he's upset!

[Dirgegun]

Yup. Billy and Teddy are so damn adorable.

 

My favourite Marvel pairing~

[Sifr]

I think Leliana's comment at that point is more like: 'I want a world that isn't being torn asunder by the fade, thanks.'

 

'Cause the breach is doing a helluva number on it. It's not about the wars or the systems or anything like that, it's about big arse Fade breach tearing everything completely apart.

 

I suppose her line can be taken that way as well, but while the Fade is doing a number on everything, the world was already going to hell in a handbasket long before it showed up.

 

I dunno, as much as I like her, I'm not a fan of Leliana being an Agent of the Divine. To me, that puts puts her into a way more Chantry-loyalist camp than someone like Cullen, who started off as a loyalist but has been shaped by experience and perspective, as someone who's seen the problems first hand.

 

If the world went back to how it was before the Mage-Templar war and the Breach happened, I'm not certain that Leliana would be that bothered with the continued suffering of the Mages, as long as the status quo was restored? Not to say that she's heartless and apathetic about it, but she'd probably rationalise the Circle's continued existence as a necessary evil?

[Dirgegun]

I suppose her line can be taken that way as well, but while the Fade is doing a number on everything, the world was already going to hell in a handbasket long before it showed up.

 

I dunno, as much as I like her, I'm not a fan of Leliana being an Agent of the Divine. To me, that puts puts her into a way more Chantry-loyalist camp than someone like Cullen, who started off as a loyalist but has been shaped by experience and perspective, as someone who's seen the problems first hand.

 

If the world went back to how it was before the Mage-Templar war and the Breach happened, I'm not certain that Leliana would be that bothered with the continued suffering of the Mages, as long as the status quo was restored? Not to say that she's heartless and apathetic about it, but she'd probably rationalise the Circle's continued existence as a necessary evil?

 

I can't really say because I haven't met DAI Leliana yet, but I do think taking what she says out of context is a bit unfair to her character? In that moment, I think it's safe to say she's referring to what is happening to the world because of the breach, especially when that dude (I already forget his name  ) at least appeared to have something to do with it/had some knowledge of what was going on at the very least. 

 

As for her Chantry stance? Well, we already know Leliana is religious, but I'm not sure we really know her opinion on what the Chantry as an organisation is. Her being the Left Hand of the Divine is more personal than just her religion, seeing she is personally close to the Divine/owes her her life/stuff like that. 

[Sifr]

Aye, I suppose I'm not worried that after ten years of working with/for the Divine, she might have morphed into another Sebastian?

 

That said, it's a shame we can't romance her even if she wasn't your love interest in Origins. Like the new tougher and more confident Cullen, if Leliana has now shed her innocent Sister persona from Origins and become more like Bard!Leliana from LS again, it definitely would make her someone I'd want to romance this time around?

[LOLandStuff]

Hello, Cullen Fans. Just dropping by to ask something and I'm pretty sure this is the best place for that answer

 

So, in DAII there's mention Cullen had feelings for a mage if your import is one from the Circle, right? Or is it something else? Because my main is a mage and there's no mention in his codex. Do I have to hit on him and put him on the run?

 

Thank you

[CENIC]

Hello, Cullen Fans. Just dropping by to ask something and I'm pretty sure this is the best place for that answer
 
So, in DAII there's mention Cullen had feelings for a mage if your import is one from the Circle, right? Or is it something else? Because my main is a mage and there's no mention in his codex. Do I have to hit on him and put him on the run?
 
Thank you

I had the same issue, and I didn't use the "We should go somewhere more private and continue this discussion" option... so I think you might be on to something

[Dirgegun]

Aye, I suppose I'm not worried that after ten years of working with/for the Divine, she might have morphed into another Sebastian?

 

That said, it's a shame we can't romance her even if she wasn't your love interest in Origins. Like the new tougher and more confident Cullen, if Leliana has now shed her innocent Sister persona from Origins and become more like Bard!Leliana from LS again, it definitely would make her someone I'd want to romance this time around?

 

Ah, yeah. I understand the worry, but I don't think we can really guess until we see more of Leliana in game. Her situation i a bit more nuanced seeing she's personally tied with the Divine.

 

I do agree about DAI Leliana, though! I liked her in Origins, don't get me wrong, but from what we've seen of DAI Leliana, she's grown into more of my personal 'type'. I would definitely make a character for her romance if she was one. 

[Asperath]

Hello, Cullen Fans. Just dropping by to ask something and I'm pretty sure this is the best place for that answer

 

So, in DAII there's mention Cullen had feelings for a mage if your import is one from the Circle, right? Or is it something else? Because my main is a mage and there's no mention in his codex. Do I have to hit on him and put him on the run?

 

Thank you

 

I'm pretty sure he only mentions this to Hawke (regardless of Hawk'e class) if your warden was a fem!mage otherwise he says nothing in regards to this.

And I think you do have to hit on him in DA:O

[Dirgegun]

Hello, Cullen Fans. Just dropping by to ask something and I'm pretty sure this is the best place for that answer

 

So, in DAII there's mention Cullen had feelings for a mage if your import is one from the Circle, right? Or is it something else? Because my main is a mage and there's no mention in his codex. Do I have to hit on him and put him on the run?

 

Thank you

 

 

I had the same issue, and I didn't use the "We should go somewhere more private and continue this discussion" option... so I think you might be on to something

 

Nah, I think it did appear in the codex before, without taking the creeper option in DA:O. It seems to be after one of the updates it doesn't appear? That's what I've heard from others, at least. So maybe they removed it via update when they decided Cullen would be an LI in DAI? Or it's a bug. Import bugs a rife in DAII.

[Dirgegun]

I'm pretty sure he only mentions this to Hawke (regardless of Hawk'e class) if your warden was a fem!mage otherwise he says nothing in regards to this.

And I think you do have to hit on him in DA:O

 

He says something about a male!Amell too! Can't remember what it is, though. Your mage does have to be an Amell, though, otherwise he doesn't mention anything, but that's a given. 

[Asperath]

He says something about a male!Amell too! Can't remember what it is, though. Your mage does have to be an Amell, though, otherwise he doesn't mention anything, but that's a given. 

 

Oh cool! I might have to look that up on youtube! That's why I love this thread, after all these years still finding out I've missed stuff!

 

I bet with DAI there's going to be so much we miss out on esp in the first playthrough.

[Dirgegun]

Oh cool! I might have to look that up on youtube! That's why I love this thread, after all these years still finding out I've missed stuff!

 

I bet with DAI there's going to be so much we miss out on esp in the first playthrough.

 

Ugh, yessss. I'm going to be re-playing this game SO MUCH.

[Sifr]

 

I do agree about DAI Leliana, though! I liked her in Origins, don't get me wrong, but from what we've seen of DAI Leliana, she's grown into more of my personal 'type'. I would definitely make a character for her romance if she was one. 

 

I feel that if Leliana was a romance in DAI, she'd end up being a lot like Liara in Mass Effect. Both were the ingenue in the first game that you might have romanced, but you probably only really fell in love with her character in the second and third game, when she transformed into a complete and utter badass during the time-skip.

 

I'm not knocking sweet and innocent at all, but anyone who can kick my backside both literally and metaphorically, I find way more attractive.

 

[Hello-Nurse]

On Cullen's nose:

This is too adorable! I feel all giddy to see it in November. Is it sad that I am this excited to interact with a fictional character? Harry Potter all over again.

[Galagraphia]

Now see, this makes me impossibly happy. It means the expressions are going to be fantastic in this game. I love DAII, but the expressions were.... well, could have been better. The movement was mostly only around the eyes, which made things a bit weird. 

This makes me happy, because it means that his nose only looks bad when he's not happy   Big relief.

 

Nah, I think it did appear in the codex before, without taking the creeper option in DA:O. It seems to be after one of the updates it doesn't appear? That's what I've heard from others, at least. So maybe they removed it via update when they decided Cullen would be an LI in DAI? Or it's a bug. Import bugs a rife in DAII.

I checked my old saves where codex mentioned the hero of Ferelden, and it's not there now. Weird.

They are retconning my ship!

He still says that he never met anyone like my Amell though So I suspect Meredith hacked the game to remove that shameful codex bit from her captain's reputation. Oooh, that Red Lyrium, oooh!

[Caja]

Not sure if you have already seen Allan's post in the Scuttlebut thread (" Any word on how DAI will handle time management in the campaign?").  I'm quoting it because there is information about advisors in it.

 

 

Okay, so a programmer saw me talking in this thread and helped get me some info.

 

• It's completely offline, and just uses system clock.
• Some of the times I mentioned may not be accurate as they're being tweaked. Really short stuff might not exist.
• Anything that opens up a new piece of content to be experienced in the game is done instantly
• Your advisors are still available to talk despite being "on mission." In context, this often makes sense because many of these missions describe a larger scale organizing event rather than, for example, Cullen stating "i'm definitely going to go there myself, specifically, to spend the next X hours talking to the person."
• Some of them are done to help with resource acquisition (Mike hinted at this), be it gold, crafting materials, and so forth. There may be flavour differences between advisors, and some advisors may be better than others at certain tasks (usually shorter time, but hey, if Josie is on something else it may be worth sending Cullen instead even if it takes 30 minutes longer)
• Most interestingly (to me), is that some of them have story narratives to them. Some missions are only available to certain PCs, and how you choose to proceed with the missions (or rather, how the advisor you send deals with it) can lead to different consequences/paths for these more story heavy missions. Upon completion of these missions, a new mission will be unlocked if appropriate to continue that story arc.*

 

 

* Note that the last point I haven't seen in game, so hopefully I didn't recall that wrong. i.e. safety language in case I made a mistake but I'm pretty certain I didn't.

 

[Galagraphia]

Honestly? I totally don't get that time thing. Is it real time, or in-game time? If it's real time, and one task takes 4 hours to complete, I'll never get anywhere in that game with my 2 hours a week, lol

[Tamyn]

Real time, but it keeps going when the game is off. So when you go to bed, the mission will be done.

 

And like he said, if it unlocks a new quest area you won't have to wait.

[Dirgegun]

Real time, but it keeps going when the game is off. So when you go to bed, the mission will be done.

 

And like he said, if it unlocks a new quest area you won't have to wait.

 

I'm guessing this is only with quests where you use 'agents'. It would be weird if the other timed quests were done off of real time, like 'go rescue your men before they die horribly-- you have two hours.' "BUT I HAVE TO GO OUT?!?!" 

[Galagraphia]

Real time, but it keeps going when the game is off. So when you go to bed, the mission will be done.

 

And like he said, if it unlocks a new quest area you won't have to wait.

Cool! So I can run the game every evening after work just to play with War Table, and make my Inquisition more awesome!

And stare at Cullen...