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[Dirgegun]

It's hard to explain without sounds like an idiot. But it's more her anger is directed at Andraste as they're her words even though the Chantry has in her view twisted it... it's superficial at best but she'll probably start out that way. I suspect she'll develop and change her view on it... but at first her outlet will be directed at Andraste (and probably because being in a circle it was much easier to be angry at what the Chantry held up as the ideal/model instead of each individual she met)

 

I don't know if that makes sense, especially because her take on it is that mages should be the healers and educators for everyone regardless of class etc

 

I'm still thinking about and will probably change a lot considering the amount of time before release date.

 

I will consider your advise

 

No, no! That makes perfect sense and really helps to illustrate where she's coming from! I can certainly understand directing anger towards a figure that 'represents' the system she was forced into and whose words created that system, even if those words might not have been meant in the way the Chantry chose to interpret them.

[Asperath]

No, no! That makes perfect sense and really helps to illustrate where she's coming from! I can certainly understand directing anger towards a figure that 'represents' the system she was forced into and whose words created that system, even if those words might not have been meant in the way the Chantry chose to interpret them.

 

See! you said it much much better than I did!

I think that sort of thing happens to people irl a lot but I want to allow her the opportunity to grow from that and possibly be an example of what she believes is a better way

[Solaria]

That background is perfect for my human rogue! I wanted to play as the upstart the snobby family is always rolling their eyes at. The Chantry and Templars connections just makes it even more delicious! I canNOT wait to get started!

 

This is the same as mine, he also doesn't believe in the maker and it's a constant argument with his religiously devout family and if I decide to make him a mage, I'm assuming that his family were scandalised at having magic in the family.

[Tishina]

So with the new backgrounds revealed, I have another Inquisitor question for you all!

 

What is your Inquistor/s' views on the Chantry and Maker?

Interesting question, especially in light of the new background info. Zhenya Cadash is pretty agnostic (it's not like either the chantry or the Ancestors/Stone have much of a place for surface dwarves), and she'd be wary of the chantry itself (oddly, my dwarf commoner warden was one of only two devout Andrastrian wardens, she figured they gave her more of a shot than Orzammar). My Dalish mage will feel its her responsibility to keep the belief in the creators alive, but will have her doubts about both the creators and the maker. My human mage will be an Andrastrian but detest the chantry because of how they've used religion to imprison mages (she'd also find it bizarre that Andraste's priesthood is celibate when Andraste was married AND the bride of the Maker, lol). Haven't thought through the others yet.

 

Edited for lost train of thought, lol.

[Tishina]

This is the same as mine, he also doesn't believe in the maker and it's a constant argument with his religiously devout family and if I decide to make him a mage, I'm assuming that his family were scandalised at having magic in the family.

I was wondering about that after reading the Trevelyan background. All those templars and priests in the family, I wonder if they pretended the mage Trevelyan died or something to protect themselves? I'd half expected to find out she'd been sent out of her home city to another circle for that reason.

[Iceyone]

I think she will believe in the Maker, I also think she used to question the Chantry and its teachings but has accepted that they may have a point.

She is aware of the "evils" of magic that the Chantry speak and teach of, she is also terrified and resentful of her own magic ability and what she may be capable of, which reinforces a lot of said teachings, so she kind of agrees with what has been taught.

She remembers her early childhood, being removed from her home and family has left her deeply traumatised. She sees being in the Circle as punishment for being a mage, that punishment is directly from the Chantry.

She won't blame the Chantry or the Templars however, I think she will actually blame herself for being a mage, it's easier for her to accept she is at fault for everything that has happened to her than to live with the uncertainty born from questioning the system.

 

After that barble (sorry lol ), She believes in the Maker, was conflicted about the Chantry in her early days at the Circle but she has pretty much succumbed to their teachings.

[Dirgegun]

Well, I suppose I should do my rogue boy! 

 

My boy believes in the Maker well enough, but not enough to want to dedicate his life to him. He finds the idea that he is expected to follow the 'family business' as it were tedious and not something he particularly wants with his life. Mind, he doesn't quite know what he wants with his life. The Fade shenanigans kind of end up choosing for him. 

 

He isn't aggressively opposed to what his family wants and he doesn't lash out over it, but he deflects often. If his family tries to address his future he's quick to change the subject or simply duck out, citing he has some business somewhere that requires he not stay and talk about the Chantry. Again. 

 

As for what he thinks of the organisation itself? Well, despite what he's had hammered into his head he doesn't think about it unless he has to and doesn't think he should have to think about it to believe in the Maker. He has a very 'oh right, that exists' attitude when it comes up because he tries to pretend it's not a thing as often as he can.

[Adela]

Even tho my inq comes from a family of "religious" ppl, she is not like them, she is not very fond of the chantry for abusing their power manipulating , and controlling ppl, she believes that the chantry once was good and maintain some peace, but until recently  she does not like what it has become and how they treat mages.. so if there are no means to come to a compromise with the chantry to be more lenient with the mages instead of abusing them "because all mages are evil"  my inq will say BYE BYE to the chantry and try to make a new order, one that doesn't make ppl suffer (if given the option ofc)

[Dirgegun]

Even tho my inq comes from a family of "religious" ppl, she is not like them, she is not very fond of the chantry for abusing their power manipulating , and controlling ppl, she believes that the chantry once was good and maintain some peace, but until recently  she does not like what it has become and how they treat mages.. so if there are no means to come to a compromise with the chantry to be more lenient with the mages instead of abusing them "because all mages are evil"  my inq will say BYE BYE to the chantry and try to make a new order, one that doesn't make ppl suffer (if given the option ofc)

 

Interesting! Does she have a separate view of the religion itself or does she treat the Chantry and the Andrastian faith as one and the same?

[Dirgegun]

"You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day"

 

Just know I love and like each and every one of your Inquisitors! 

[Tishina]

Even though I sympathize a lot with the mages, I also think the chantry has abused the templars (that whole lyrium addiction thing, after all, which from the sound of it isn't always voluntary).

[Adela]

Interesting! Does she have a separate view of the religion itself or does she treat the Chantry and the Andrastian faith as one and the same?

I would say separately...because even tho the faith in its self wasn't really that "bad" to begin with, its the ppl who made it look bad and interpreted in their own way witch eventually lead to chaos , so if order can be restored in a good way, without abusing of power I think ppl would have more to benefit from that.. but ofc its sounds good on paper but once put it practice  it may not always come out as planned because there is always ppl who will abuse their powers and take it to a whole new level... so IMO weather this issue will get resolved now there is always going to be a struggle unless there is some sort of compromise that everyone can live with and not kill each other

[Hellion Rex]

Re: Pax Prime

 

 

The floor maps are out and they show that there will be a BioWare Base and a BioWare Theater (?) space.

If someone from BW would/could confirm what's going on at the theater space it'd be great to hear.

In addition, will there be a public demo available for attendees?

[Dirgegun]

Even though I sympathize a lot with the mages, I also think the chantry has abused the templars (that whole lyrium addiction thing, after all, which from the sound of it isn't always voluntary).

 

I imagine it's not always voluntary at all. Remember how Alistair spoke about it? And Lily from the Mage Origin? While she became an initiate, I imagine a lot of those 'given' children can also end up with the Templars, whether they like it or not. 

 

Actually, I imagine that's what causes quite a few of the 'bad' Templars. There's zealots, of course, and people who let the fact they have power over other people go to their head, but I imagine there's also Templars who are resentful that they've been forced into that and take that resentment out on their wards.

[Dirgegun]

Even tho my inq comes from a family of "religious" ppl, she is not like them, she is not very fond of the chantry for abusing their power manipulating , and controlling ppl, she believes that the chantry once was good and maintain some peace, but until recently  she does not like what it has become and how they treat mages.. so if there are no means to come to a compromise with the chantry to be more lenient with the mages instead of abusing them "because all mages are evil"  my inq will say BYE BYE to the chantry and try to make a new order, one that doesn't make ppl suffer (if given the option ofc)

 

 

I would say separately...because even tho the faith in its self wasn't really that "bad" to begin with, its the ppl who made it look bad and interpreted in their own way witch eventually lead to chaos , so if order can be restored in a good way, without abusing of power I think ppl would have more to benefit from that.. but ofc its sounds good on paper but once put it practice  it may not always come out as planned because there is always ppl who will abuse their powers and take it to a whole new level... so IMO weather this issue will get resolved now there is always going to be a struggle unless there is some sort of compromise that everyone can live with and not kill each other

 

I see, I see!

 

I would like both these posts if I could. ;n;

[Iceyone]

Another two questions for your quizzys:

 

How are they going to react to be thrown into the position of power?

 

My mage is going to have to have plenty clean and fresh small clothes in her backpack for sure, gawds, she is going to be awful at making decisions lol, she'll always seek reassurance that she did good.

 

If given the chance to grab something before having to leave, what could your quizzy not be without?

 

My mage will try and take her writing book, she doesn't have anything else that she would especially miss.

[Tishina]

I imagine it's not always voluntary at all. Remember how Alistair spoke about it? And Lily from the Mage Origin? While she became an initiate, I imagine a lot of those 'given' children can also end up with the Templars, whether they like it or not. 

 

Actually, I imagine that's what causes quite a few of the 'bad' Templars. There's zealots, of course, but I imagine there's also Templars who are resentful that they've been forced into that and take that resentment out on their wards.

Those are exactly the cases I was thinking of, Alistair and Lily, who had no choice. I've actually wondered what happens to someone who simply refuses to take the vows too.

[GiggleLam]

Human nobles are the youngest of their family? Just. As. Planned. 
I do really like the reasons for each soon to be Inquisitor for being at the peace talks. Still not quite my cabbage merchant story but awesome.

Yesterday the drawing request was Solas. 
http://gigglelam.tum...s-c-c-part-4-of

[Iceyone]

Human nobles are the youngest of their family? Just. As. Planned. 
I do really like the reasons for each soon to be Inquisitor for being at the peace talks. Still not quite my cabbage merchant story but awesome.

Yesterday the drawing request was Solas. 
http://gigglelam.tum...s-c-c-part-4-of

 

You've made him look adorable, his eyes...... its lovely!!

 

WTB - 1/2 pint of writing/artistic talent, paying well!!

[Solaria]

Another two questions for your quizzys:

 

How are they going to react to be thrown into the position of power?

 

My mage is going to have to have plenty clean and fresh small clothes in her backpack for sure, gawds, she is going to be awful at making decisions lol, she'll always seek reassurance that she did good.

 

If given the chance to grab something before having to leave, what could your quizzy not be without?

 

My mage will try and take her writing book, she doesn't have anything else that she would especially miss.

My mage would resent it at first but learn to deal with it.-she never wanted power or to be a leader anyway and she would probably take some trinket from her merc days and a good book with her.

 

My Templar would believe that its a chance to change a corrupt system that he is starting to question and he'd probably take some family memento with him

[Adela]

Re: Pax Prime

Cool! if there is going to be a demo of some sort i hope it will be about cc since i asked about it at gamescom and they said "soon"  not sure if its PAX soon but lets hope so, also hope that it will be streamed somewhere

[Dirgegun]

How are they going to react to be thrown into the position of power? -- "Balls" seems to cover it pretty well! My rogue boy will have absolutely no idea what to do, but he'll fake it as best and for a long as he can get away with. He does have the tools he needs to be a leader, as I imagine he had to sit through plenty of boring lessons about the subject, but it'll take him a while to get a handle on things. Eventually he'll actually become the leader he pretends to be.

 

If given the chance to grab something before having to leave, what could your quizzy not be without? -- This is a surprisingly difficult question and I love it! Assuming that he can get his hands on a nice pair of daggers and lockpicks any old place, I think it would have to be his signet ring. He might not be particularly fond of the 'family business', but he is a Trevelyan and he's been taught that's important. He's also a bit of an overprivileged dick before he goes through some development, so proof of his heritage is something he'd think to hold onto.

 

If he can't get lockpicks any old place, though? Then the signet ring can kiss it's expensive golden arse goodbye. Lockpicks are even more important! 

[Adela]

Another two questions for your quizzys:

 

How are they going to react to be thrown into the position of power?

 

My mage is going to have to have plenty clean and fresh small clothes in her backpack for sure, gawds, she is going to be awful at making decisions lol, she'll always seek reassurance that she did good.

 

If given the chance to grab something before having to leave, what could your quizzy not be without?

 

My mage will try and take her writing book, she doesn't have anything else that she would especially miss.

LOL my quizzi  wouldn't even know what to do with that power at 1st since she's never had the chance to be in that position .. but it looks like she wont have a choice  so she better learn how to use it right

 

as for what  she will take and cant be without.. well... I guess that would be her daggers   since a laptop is out of the question for that period of time   but for  some fun/ down time i would probably bring some cards  to play some "poker" or something oh and  change of clothes.. thats kind of important too lol

[GiggleLam]

You've made him look adorable, his eyes...... its lovely!!

 

WTB - 1/2 pint of writing/artistic talent, paying well!!

Won't lie, I matched the eyes I did for Cullen, with some slight changes, because those eyes were so cuuute. Aggh I need to see his face and hear his voice at the same time. 

[Dirgegun]

LOL my quizzi  wouldn't even know what to do with that power at 1st since she's never had the chance to be in that position .. but it looks like she wont have a choice  so she better learn how to use it right

 

as for what  she will take and cant be without.. well... I guess that would be her daggers   since a laptop is out of the question for that period of time   but for  some fun/ down time i would probably bring some cards  to play some "poker" or something oh and  change of clothes.. thats kind of important too lol

 

There better be a game of Wicked Grace in DAI!