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[Hello-Nurse]

Ah see, now you need at least three and a goat called Mr Stompy. So it's your fault.

As usual.

Hmmmm. 3 you say? I could aquire two more. But I have a dog instead of a goat. Darn. Anyone have a goat?

[alwayshungry]

Hmmmm. 3 you say? I could aquire two more. But I have a dog instead of a goat. Darn. Anyone have a goat?

I think Lola has one, but I don't know if she's just gonna give it away

[Hello-Nurse]

I think Lola has one, but I don't know if she's just gonna give it away

Does she have 3 chickens? She has far more juju then I do. She would be successful *starts libbing chickens*

[alwayshungry]

Does she have 3 chickens? She has far more juju then I do. She would be successful *starts libbing chickens*

Sorry, I don't know if she has chickens... I only know about the goat.

 

edit: Oh wow. That's a nice post for ToP!

http://chantersayswh...im-working-on-i

[Hello-Nurse]

Sorry, I don't know if she has chickens... I only know about the goat.

edit: Oh wow. That's a nice post for ToP!
http://chantersayswh...im-working-on-i

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Dreamy sigh. My inquisitor is not going to be able to pay attention at the war table at all. I love all the amazing art people post everyone is so talented

[Dirgegun]

Randomly:

 

Speaking of little details, though I would understand why Bioware might not do this too much/at all in some instances, considering knew players would have less knowledge of the languages and such... I would LOVE if our Inquisitors could use words specifically to their background/race. What I mean by this is that it would be awesome if the humans could use 'serah' and 'messere' when talking with people. Probably messere less often, as that's someone of higher rank and the Trevelyan family are already nobles. 

 

The Dalish should use shem/shemlen, but it would also be awesome if when they're closer to companions/have an LI, if they could use the Dalish word for friend/love on occasion. 

 

The Dwarf... though a surfacer, maybe they could still use salroka

 

The qunari could use serah/messere too if they were raised in the Free Marchers or maybe a qunari word or two they've picked up form the mercanry band if it's made up of other qunari/has other qunari members. 

 

If nothing else, it's gonna be something I headcanon. 

[john-in-france]

Do we know if this is a real romance or a Sebastian style romance...

[Dirgegun]

Do we know if this is a real romance or a Sebastian style romance...

 

It's a real romance just as Josephine and the companions are. That's what we've been told, at least. It sounds like the team has put a lot of work into the romances-- maybe not more words than any of the previous games, but more effort into making the relationships mean more than just that "Ding! Got sex, romance complete!" moment.

 

Not to say they were just that before! I certainly enjoyed the story and connection they added to the narrative. Still, I think they've worked hard to make the relationships/friendships in Inquisition something special in particular.

[Potato Cat]

Randomly:
 
Speaking of little details, though I would understand why Bioware might not do this too much/at all in some instances, considering knew players would have less knowledge of the languages and such... I would LOVE if our Inquisitors could use words specifically to their background/race. What I mean by this is that it would be awesome if the humans could use 'serah' and 'messere' when talking with people. Probably messere less often, as that's someone of higher rank and the Trevelyan family are already nobles. 
 
The Dalish should use shem/shemlen, but it would also be awesome if when they're closer to companions/have an LI, if they could use the Dalish word for friend/love on occasion. 
 
The Dwarf... though a surfacer, maybe they could still use salroka
 
The qunari could use serah/messere too if they were raised in the Free Marchers or maybe a qunari word or two they've picked up form the mercanry band if it's made up of other qunari/has other qunari members. 
 
If nothing else, it's gonna be something I headcanon. 

The qunari could use kadan. I mean, it's not like the word is particularly Qunari, even if it is Qunlat. And the Vashoth they're with are clearly at least a teeny bit bilingual since Valo-kas is Qunlat for greatsword, adaar means cannon (or something along those lines iirc), and if the player names their qunari something from Qunlat, (like I will with Hissra), they probably know that. What I'm saying is that even if they weren't born in the Qun, they were probably raised with people who were so it makes sense and would be absolutely delightful for them to spout random Qunlat.

I'd love my Elfquisitors to call close friends and lovers lethallan/lethallin too. Might be nice to have these special race specific lines under the star option, but I bum over the star dialogues. NEED MOAR!

[QueenofFereldan]

I was watching a couple of Mass Effect romances yesterday. I actually thought they were pretty good...really hoping Inquisition pulls something like that!

[Potato Cat]

Do we know if this is a real romance or a Sebastian style romance...

We know the advisors all have the same line budget as companions. They also have their own banters in the Keep too. So I'm not afraid at all anymore about Cullen and Josie's romances being inferior to the others. At least in terms of content.

[Dirgegun]

The qunari could use kadan. I mean, it's not like the word is particularly Qunari, even if it is Qunlat. And the Vashoth they're with are clearly at least a teeny bit bilingual since Valo-kas is Qunlat for greatsword, adaar means cannon (or something along those lines iirc), and if the player names their qunari something from Qunlat, (like I will with Hissra), they probably know that. What I'm saying is that even if they weren't born in the Qun, they were probably raised with people who were so it makes sense and would be absolutely delightful for them to spout random Qunlat.

I'd love my Elfquisitors to call close friends and lovers lethallan/lethallin too. Might be nice to have these special race specific lines under the star option, but I bum over the star dialogues. NEED MOAR!

 

Yeah, I figured they would know some Qunlat but wanted to cover my arse if... they might not! And oh, Valo-kas means greatsword? I knew it have to be Qunlat from the sound of it, which is why I'm certain they're in a mostly-qunari mercenary group, but I didn't know what it meant! o:

 

I love the hell out of the star options too! I want all the star options! 

 

And I really, really would love to see some language use from the races/region language use from the human, even if Bioware had to put what those words meant in brackets or something for the new players.

[john-in-france]

Thanks for the replies...so glad Cullen is back, I loved the mod in Origins where your mage had that little romance, and I remember a mod that actually allowed him to play alongside you as a companion. (one of the Nexus downloads...extended companions DAO). Yes my warden did romance Alistair...no surprise there.

 

Johanna.

[Azucuache]

Randomly:

 

Speaking of little details, though I would understand why Bioware might not do this too much/at all in some instances, considering knew players would have less knowledge of the languages and such... I would LOVE if our Inquisitors could use words specifically to their background/race. What I mean by this is that it would be awesome if the humans could use 'serah' and 'messere' when talking with people. Probably messere less often, as that's someone of higher rank and the Trevelyan family are already nobles. 

 

The Dalish should use shem/shemlen, but it would also be awesome if when they're closer to companions/have an LI, if they could use the Dalish word for friend/love on occasion. 

 

The Dwarf... though a surfacer, maybe they could still use salroka

 

The qunari could use serah/messere too if they were raised in the Free Marchers or maybe a qunari word or two they've picked up form the mercanry band if it's made up of other qunari/has other qunari members. 

 

If nothing else, it's gonna be something I headcanon. 

I'm all for that too. Becuase, honestly, we were once "new players", too, when DA:O came out. And since we managed to catch what each of the words mean effortlessly, so why would it be a trouble now?  I mean, speaking strictly for myself, I loved playing dalish origin becuase of all the expression used from their ancient language. Quanari in DAII were the same case. Even though I wasn't sure what meant what at the beginning, it made them all just more real to me. I hope they will keep it up in DA:I.

[Dirgegun]

This is a somewhat specific question and one I might not word exactly how I mean, so bare with me and I might make edits after I finish typing this.    

 

Inquisitor Question Time:

 

Humans would have been taught a strict Chantry view of demons and spirits, elves would have been taught about the dangers of all spirits by their Keeper, qunari might have heard about the Qun's views of spirits and the Fade from the Tal-Vashoth in the mercenary band, and dwarves likely would have heard about demons and spirits from the mumblings of common people on the street or perhaps from the writings of Brother Genitivi we can find all over the place. Whoever taught your Inquisitor about spirits doesn't matter, but does your Inquisitor agree with them? Do they follow these ideas to the strict letter, think the teachings should have been stricter still, or do they have their own thoughts and idle wonders? Will they hear a demon out, even if it doesn't mean taking their offer, or will they attack on sight?

[QueenofFereldan]

My mage would probably attack on sight. She knows the dangers of demons and doesn't trust them at all.

[Iceyone]

She will fear them, be very wary of them. I imagine if they talk, she may listen although she would never reply or actually converse with them, she believes in a lot of the Chantry teachings and really wouldn't be that foolish. If running and hiding from them isn't an option, or hoping they just go away doesn't work, she would probably have to kill them on sight.

[Potato Cat]

This is a somewhat specific question and one I might not word exactly how I mean, so bare with me and I might make edits after I finish typing this.

Inquisitor Question Time:

Humans would have been taught a strict Chantry view of demons and spirits, elves would have been taught about the dangers of all spirits by their Keeper, qunari might have heard about the Qun's views of spirits and the Fade from the Tal-Vashoth in the mercenary band, and dwarves likely would have heard about demons and spirits from the mumblings of common people on the street or perhaps from the writings of Brother Genitivi we can find all over the place. Whoever taught your Inquisitor about spirits doesn't matter, but does your Inquisitor agree with them? Do they follow these ideas to the strict letter, think the teachings should have been stricter still, or do they have their own thoughts and idle wonders? Will they hear a demon out, even if it doesn't mean taking their offer, or will they attack on sight?

I think I'll do this one for my main three Inquisitors.

As some might know, when conversing with demons, I like to remove some of the power of autonomy from myself to better simulate the demonic encounter. So unless my character has a strong distaste and distrust for demons and spirits, I roll six sided dice, and decide which 3 numbers mean I have to go along with whatever the demon wants.

So when it comes to Elidri, she will flat out refuse to listen to demons and spirits alike. Even someone she suspects to have some extended contact will probably only get the back of her hand. This may extend to Dorian, probably extend to Solas and Cole will probably be attacked and killed on sight if the option is available.

Esmerelda Trevelyan is a bit more forgiving and more curious. She's does kinda have delusions of grandeur too though, so I'm contemplating making it a 2/6 chance to be able to resist the charms of a pride demon. Even then, she'll probably go along with it. She thought she was smarter than demons before she became the Herald Of Andraste, so she sure as hell thinks she's beyond their grasp now.

Hissra's much more sensible than Esmerelda and she'll have a much healthier fear of demons. Emphasis on healthy as opposed to Elidri's blind hatred. So while she might struggle to trust Cole, she still might take him along depending on how he's initially presented. I'd say Hissra's big flaw is that she only does what's right for the moment, and not so much for what will be best in the long run and also that she has a habit of taking things at face value. So if a demon promises the best option with no bloodshed, she may well believe him, (even if he didn't win the roll ).

[BFace]

This is a somewhat specific question and one I might not word exactly how I mean, so bare with me and I might make edits after I finish typing this.    

 

Inquisitor Question Time:

 

Humans would have been taught a strict Chantry view of demons and spirits, elves would have been taught about the dangers of all spirits by their Keeper, qunari might have heard about the Qun's views of spirits and the Fade from the Tal-Vashoth in the mercenary band, and dwarves likely would have heard about demons and spirits from the mumblings of common people on the street or perhaps from the writings of Brother Genitivi we can find all over the place. Whoever taught your Inquisitor about spirits doesn't matter, but does your Inquisitor agree with them? Do they follow these ideas to the strict letter, think the teachings should have been stricter still, or do they have their own thoughts and idle wonders? Will they hear a demon out, even if it doesn't mean taking their offer, or will they attack on sight?

Amythiel, as a non-mage, understands that she will never truly understand demons and spirits and what lies beyond the Veil. (Ha! Little does she know how that maybe change. *grin*)

She does know though, or rather she thinks that there must always be a price-a gift for a gift, so to speak, when one deals with a spirit.  And she believes that sometimes that price is possession and that sometimes one doesn't get to pick ahead of time.  Therefore, she believes that it's best to just let dealing with spirits and demons remain the job of the clan's Keeper or First.

[Dirgegun]

I think I'll do this one for my main three Inquisitors.

As some might know, when conversing with demons, I like to remove some of the power of autonomy from myself to better simulate the demonic encounter. So unless my character has a strong distaste and distrust for demons and spirits, I roll six sided dice, and decide which 3 numbers mean I have to go along with whatever the demon wants.

So when it comes to Elidri, she will flat out refuse to listen to demons and spirits alike. Even someone she suspects to have some extended contact will probably only get the back of her hand. This may extend to Dorian, probably extend to Solas and Cole will probably be attacked and killed on sight if the option is available.

Esmerelda Trevelyan is a bit more forgiving and more curious. She's does kinda have delusions of grandeur too though, so I'm contemplating making it a 2/6 chance to be able to resist the charms of a pride demon. Even then, she'll probably go along with it. She thought she was smarter than demons before she became the Herald Of Andraste, so she sure as hell thinks she's beyond their grasp now.

Hissra's much more sensible than Esmerelda and she'll have a much healthier fear of demons. Emphasis on healthy as opposed to Elidri's blind hatred. So while she might struggle to trust Cole, she still might take him along depending on how he's initially presented. I'd say Hissra's big flaw is that she only does what's right for the moment, and not so much for what will be best in the long run and also that she has a habit of taking things at face value. So if a demon promises the best option with no bloodshed, she may well believe him, (even if he didn't win the roll ).

 

Oh, I love that way of handling the demon encounters!

 

I have a question for Elidri in particular. What does she think of her Keeper's teachings on magic and spirits? The Dalish believe them all Spirits and that all Spirits are dangerous, but with her views does she feel the Keeper should have been even stricter with her lessons? And does she believe her Keeper should have sworn off magic and teaching others magic beyond resisting? Or does she feel that even her own people who are mages should go to the Circle or have some policing measure?  

[Lady Shayna]

This is a somewhat specific question and one I might not word exactly how I mean, so bare with me and I might make edits after I finish typing this.    

 

Inquisitor Question Time:

 

Humans would have been taught a strict Chantry view of demons and spirits, elves would have been taught about the dangers of all spirits by their Keeper, qunari might have heard about the Qun's views of spirits and the Fade from the Tal-Vashoth in the mercenary band, and dwarves likely would have heard about demons and spirits from the mumblings of common people on the street or perhaps from the writings of Brother Genitivi we can find all over the place. Whoever taught your Inquisitor about spirits doesn't matter, but does your Inquisitor agree with them? Do they follow these ideas to the strict letter, think the teachings should have been stricter still, or do they have their own thoughts and idle wonders? Will they hear a demon out, even if it doesn't mean taking their offer, or will they attack on sight?

 

 

This is difficult.  As a player, I'd like to explore Cole's character, but it's going to be tough with the three characters I have in mind.

 

Also, I wonder if we can safely assume our mage has gone through the Harrowing.  Hmmm...I'll assume it for now, I think, and change it if I get conflicting info later, unless someone else knows for sure.

 

Also, I'm writing all of these character tidbits as of the point in time when they first find out they are going to the conclave (they're all frozen in time at that moment, so to speak), so anything after the beginning of the game is likely to greatly impact their opinions.

 

Anyway:

 

Elke believes what's she's been taught of spirits and demons.  Demons are not to be treated with in any way, they should be fought or at least challenged on sight, and abominations killed.  She believes there are benevolent spirits, but will be suspicious of anything claiming to be one, as demons are liars.  (The mysterious glowing woman may greatly impact her opinion, so maybe Cole can get the benefit of the doubt, depending on the situations around his introduction).  In a situation similar in tone to the Spirit of the Forest in DA:O, with a spirit whose nature is not readily apparent and who seems to have been pulled into Thedas against its will, she is likely to choose the option to negotiate to convince the Keeper to sacrifice himself, thus breaking the curse AND sending the spirit back to the Fade - and she'll do it because she believes it is the right thing to do, and best for all parties involved (even the Keeper).

 

Alaran believes what the Keeper has taught him, and view spirits and demons as both super dangerous, and not to be treated with.  Anything obviously a demon is killed on sight.  Anything probably a demon should probably be attacked eventually, preferably banished back to the Fade.  He is, I think, the least likely to accept Cole as part of the party if Cole makes it obvious what his nature is.  In a situation like the Spirit of the Forest, he is likely to kill Witherfang.

 

Sasani has done a lot of study, contrasting various interpretation of the nature of spirits from various religious as well as agnostic works.  She has also experienced the danger of demons first hand through the Harrowing.  Obvious demons should be denied any power over herself or others.  If they attack, she will defend herself. Otherwise she'll try to get them out of Thedas in whatever way seems expedient.  Depending on how Cole's nature is introduced to the party, she will either keep him at arm's length until she figures out for sure if the entity is a demon or not, or look at him with pity and fascination.  In a situation like the Spirit of the Forest....huh.  You know what.  She can't decide what she would do.  Typical.  Heheh.

[Not a Cat Doll]

Do we know if this is a real romance or a Sebastian style romance...

I don't understand what "real" means in this context.

[Potato Cat]

Oh, I love that way of handling the demon encounters!
 
I have a question for Elidri in particular. What does she think of her Keeper's teachings on magic and spirits? The Dalish believe them all Spirits and that all Spirits are dangerous, but with her views does she feel the Keeper should have been even stricter with her lessons? And does she believe her Keeper should have sworn off magic and teaching others magic beyond resisting? Or does she feel that even her own people who are mages should go to the Circle or have some policing measure?  

Thanks.

Well my current headcanon for Elidri is that her Keeper's First, (or at least original First), became possessed and killed her father, the only person who was willing to put up with her. This was what made her think, 'right, the Keeper has it wrong, the Dalish have it wrong. We can't trust mages not to fall to demons, we can't trust them to lead us.' She doesn't think the Dalish are going to help the elves if they continue to implicitly trust their Keepers and what they say is best. I think she really blames her Keeper for her father's death, so in answer to your first question, yeah, she should have been stricter. She should have known better. She should never have let her First be as stupid as to become possessed.

But she doesn't think swearing off magic is the answer either. That would just cause more problems. They would be less prepared to fend off demons, and potentially more volatile. Plus, magic has its uses and she won't deny that. She believes in the general idea of the Circle, where mages regardless of race are kept away from non-mages and taught to master their curse.

[HurricaneGinger]

The bit of info we're getting about the game is great, but I'm still antsy and wanting so much more.

 

Like the game in my hands.

 

I want the game in my hands SO BAD.

 

I wonder what the big info release is at the end of the month?

 

Inquisitor Question Time:

 

Humans would have been taught a strict Chantry view of demons and spirits, elves would have been taught about the dangers of all spirits by their Keeper, qunari might have heard about the Qun's views of spirits and the Fade from the Tal-Vashoth in the mercenary band, and dwarves likely would have heard about demons and spirits from the mumblings of common people on the street or perhaps from the writings of Brother Genitivi we can find all over the place. Whoever taught your Inquisitor about spirits doesn't matter, but does your Inquisitor agree with them? Do they follow these ideas to the strict letter, think the teachings should have been stricter still, or do they have their own thoughts and idle wonders? Will they hear a demon out, even if it doesn't mean taking their offer, or will they attack on sight?

 

I imagine throughout the mage/templar war, Anais would come across several abominations and demons. I think she would have sat with a weakening mage at night, soothing them, helping them ignore the demons that whisper to them. Most of the time though, the mage would succumb and Anais along with the other mages would have to kill their once-comrade. Unfortunately, she has hardened herself when it comes to such matters. She will still try to help, but killing has become a bit too easy for her taste.

 

Anais believes trusting any spirit is dangerous. A good spirit is a bit more trustworthy depending on the value they uphold, but seeing her friends make deals and go through trials to gain a spirit's trust has made Anais wary. Demons are worse as they never leave a mage alone when it comes to temptation. Cole would most definitely put her on edge, and Solas I imagine would try to reason with Anais. She at least has an open mind to listen, but actions speak louder than words when it comes to these matters - and even the actions may have underlying agendas. 

 

Anais believes instead of fearing a spirit, one must learn to never be afraid of one as they may take advantage of that fear. Defense, and constant study of the spirit or demon is necessary to try to fully understand its ways and motives.

 

She will never hear a demon out...unless Solas is with her. Since he does not believe in bad or good, he may convince her to listen to the demon. She makes it clear, however, that if something happens it's his fault. She is mostly serious about that.

[john-in-france]

Sebastians romance, where we didn't even get a kiss, but did have a nice celibate Chantry marriage ....if you didn't run for it at that point.

Standard romance aka known as what we perceive as romance in Bioware games, flirting, kiss, falling in love, sex scene (possibly). 

 

I just don't want Cullen to turn out to be another let down like Sebastian.