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[MacyNell]

pssst, hey...Artemis...

 

[Ananka]

Happy birthday Artemis!

[Jean]

Just an fyi, we've been asked before not to speak about other threads in this one. It can (and has) cause some problems

 

Anyway, Happy birthday Artemis 

[LolaLei]

Bwahahaha! Have you guys seen this one?

 

http://fc02.devianta...uff-d7gdstn.png

[Ananka]

Well, if Origins is anything to go by, Cullen would be attracted to an elf as well as human. So if he is race gated, it's just against dwarves and qunari.

 

I thought so too, but I guess it also depends on why he's race gated. If he's race gated because they're a different religion, then I guess an elf could be a problem too, considering that the elf inquisitor will always be dalish. The elf in the circle was a city elf and raised in a circle, so that person was pretty much brought up in the andrastian faith, while a dalish elf would be as much of a heathen as a dwarf or qunari.

I hope he's not race gated, though. It seems a bit excessive to have him gated both for gender and for race.

[Tishina]

Just an fyi, we've been asked before not to speak about other threads in this one. It can (and has) cause some problems

 

 

My apologies, I wasn't aware of that.

[QueenofFereldan]

Well, chances are it might be more than that since your qunari wasn't even raised in the Qun. It could be because of the Qunari Invasion in the second one. That's a really plausible reason.

[Dirgegun]

Personally I hope it's not a... raciest reason. I mean it COULD be, but it'll be really difficult not to judge and judge hard if it comes down to racism. And there's plenty of story reasons for race-gating you can come up with that don't involve racism so much.   

 

Besides, if Cullen can learn to not judge all mages on how he was tortured, I sure as hell hope he wouldn't  judge an entire race on what happened in Kirkwall. Especially when we play a qunari that never personally knew the Qun.

[Lorien19]

Happy Birthday Artemis!

 

[Potato Cat]

Personally I hope it's not a... raciest reason. I mean it COULD be, but it'll be really difficult not to judge and judge hard if it comes down to racism. And there's plenty of story reasons for race-gating you can come up with that don't involve racism so much.   
 
Besides, if Cullen can learn to not judge all mages on how he was tortured, I sure as hell hope he wouldn't  judge an entire race on what happened in Kirkwall. Especially when we play a qunari that never personally knew the Qun.

Race gated against elves Cullen would kill me. Especially if Vivienne also refused to romance elves or wasn't available at all because then I couldn't even just swap the sexualities of my Elidri and Esmerelda.

[Dirgegun]

Race gated against elves Cullen would kill me. Especially if Vivienne also refused to romance elves or wasn't available at all because then I couldn't even just swap the sexualities of my Elidri and Esmerelda.

 

I think it would be really awkward if he's gated for 'religious' reasons, 'cause you can rp a Dalish who has converted or a Dalish who isn't strong in the Dalish people's religious beliefs-- just the cultural aspect. Besides, so long as there's respect, I don't feel not following the same religion should be a deal breaker. 

[CuriousArtemis]

Not sure if she's around today, but Happy Birthday, Curious Artemis/MMG!!

 

Wishing you silly, smutty fanfiction that includes Cullen and Blackwall, both available for male PCs!

 

 

Woohoo!!! Maybe I should start writing Blackwall x Lavellan fics I would like to finish out my Cullen x Lavellan fic but it just feels wrong now.

 

Happy Birthday, CuriousArtemis!

 

http://youtu.be/5ld0PSzSsLY

 

Aww, so cute!!! I love minions

 

 

Happy Birthdays Curry Art!!!   (Your gif-you has cray cray earrings. I'm well jel)

 

LOL Is that Yzma? I love her!

[QueenofFereldan]

Well what if he is just not attracted to them? That can be a way to make it where he isn't racist.

 

But that's the bad thing with two of them as race gated...making it where they won't be cruel themselves.

[Hellion Rex]

Personally I hope it's not a... raciest reason. I mean it COULD be, but it'll be really difficult not to judge and judge hard if it comes down to racism. And there's plenty of story reasons for race-gating you can come up with that don't involve racism so much.   

 

Besides, if Cullen can learn to not judge all mages on how he was tortured, I sure as hell hope he wouldn't  judge an entire race on what happened in Kirkwall. Especially when we play a qunari that never personally knew the Qun.

Sigh...I honestly think it'll be Cullen, though I could be wrong. His reasoning though...I think they need to dance very carefully with how they address the subject. They already are walking a very fine line with the topic of interracial romances by gating some people due to race.

 

And, I honestly only see him being gated against Qunari.

[Iceyone]

Happy Birthday Curious    Don't work too hard!

[Hellion Rex]

LOL Is that Yzma? I love her!

Yzma is my spirit animal.

[Potato Cat]

I think it would be really awkward if he's gated for 'religious' reasons, 'cause you can rp a Dalish who has converted or a Dalish who isn't strong in the Dalish people's religious beliefs-- just the cultural aspect.

Hell, my Elidri isn't strong in either religious or cultural, it shouldn't even really come into the equation when deciding to enter the romance. Now heartfelt, heartbreaking break ups sure, I'm all for those.

[LolaLei]

Yzma is my spirit animal.

 

Kronk is my spirit animal!

[CuriousArtemis]

Thanks again everyone for the birthday wishes It sucks to have to return to school on my birthday. But at least I only have one class today. I need some ideas on lovely indulgent things I can do for the rest of the day I was going to go watch a movie but there's nothing playing in my area that I really want to see. It's too hot to do anything outside. And I have no internet at home, so no marathoning a series or playing Dragon's Dogma (guilty pleasure). 

 

I really, really hope he's not race-gated towards qunari-- or whoever the remaining LIs are aren't. I like Iron Bull a whole lot, but I don't want him to be my female qunari's romance. 

 

I'm swallowing my Schadenfreude here 

 

But I'm with you. I can't think of a good reason for race-gating. Not being into someone because you're "just not attracted to that race" is... odd. And just feels too much like real life racism to me? I mean either you are attracted to a person or not... it shouldn't have anything to do with that person's race. If you are open-minded enough, you can be attracted to all manner of people. The only thing you really have no control over is sexuality. 

 

So... and the religious thing does not make sense in regards to Cullen. We should be able to RP being religious, so that shouldn't be a problem for him. And it would be stupid for him to be soooo traumatized by what happened in Kirkwall that any sight of a qunari woman (keeping in mind there were no qunari women in Kirkwall) just sends him into PTSD throws, making a relationship impossible. 

 

I have no idea what the reasons will be, sigh. One I could see for story reasons would be Solas telling a dwarf he needs to be able to share the Fade with his lover. Now I am against this reason for race-gating because it serves no storytelling purpose and makes his character seem rather immature... if he loves someone, whether that person can access the Fade or not should be moot. I mean that is like, if I were an avid rock-climber, and I fell in love with someone in a wheelchair, but I said, we can't go out because you can't go rock-climbing with me. Just silliness.

 

But it's the only logical one I can think of.

[Dirgegun]

Well, just for some examples of race-gating that could happen that isn't exactly racism:

 

Vivienne keeping her political status in mind. It's harsh, but it would affect her if she took a qunari or Dalish lover. I imagine a dwarf would be considered eccentric, but not as problematic. (And they've done this aspect before with an unhardened King Alistair.)

 

Solas being unable to connect with a dwarf because he wishes to share his lucid dreaming with his boo-- I would side eye this, but it could make sense?

 

Dorian possibly being uncomfortable with romancing elves because of their slave status in Tevinter-- I don't want a race-gated Dorian, mind, but it's another example for a non-racist race-gate.

 

*shrug*

 

Any of these at least wouldn't change my opinion of the character.

[Hellion Rex]

But I'm with you. I can't think of a good reason for race-gating. Not being into someone because you're "just not attracted to that race" is... odd. And just feels too much like real life racism to me? I mean either you are attracted to a person or not... it shouldn't have anything to do with that person's race. If you are open-minded enough, you can be attracted to all manner of people. The only thing you really have no control over is sexuality.

Well, I am black guy that isn't attracted to black guys at all. But does that make me racist for not being sexually attracted to black people?

[Milan92]

I'll sacrifice Cassandra as one of the race-gated romances for you guys.

 

[CuriousArtemis]

Well, just for some examples of race-gating that could happen that isn't exactly racism:

 

Vivienne keeping her political status in mind. It's harsh, but it would affect her if she took a qunari or dalish lover. I imagine a dwarf would be considered eccentric, but not as problematic. (And they've done this aspect before with an unhardened King Alistair.)

 

Solas being unable to connect with a dwarf because he wishes to share his lucid dreaming with his boo-- I would side eye this a little, but it could make sense?

 

Dorian possibly being uncomfortable with romancing elves because of their slave status in Tevinter-- I don't want a race-gated Dorian, mind, but it's another example for a non-racist race-gate.

 

*shrug*

 

Any of these at least wouldn't change my opinion of the character.

 

To me... all of these would create excellent drama in the relationship; imagine an elf trying to convince Dorian that it's okay, that their love is different than the forced sickness that exists between master and slave. Dorian says no, he can't do it, but eventually he can't help it because he's in love, and you show him that it CAN be equal between the two of you, and that he's not responsible for what his people have done to yours.

 

Isn't that nicer and deeper than a single scene where Dorian tells you he's not interested because you're an elf and it makes him feel uncomfortable... ROMANCE ENDED. 

 

Maybe we are not doing them credit Maybe the reasons will be really good.

 

Either way, people will be disappointed. I hope they're enjoying their "realism." It's managing to produce a lot of sad fans.

[LolaLei]

So... and the religious thing does not make sense in regards to Cullen. We should be able to RP being religious, so that shouldn't be a problem for him. And it would be stupid for him to be soooo traumatized by what happened in Kirkwall that any sight of a qunari woman (keeping in mind there were no qunari women in Kirkwall) just sends him into PTSD throws, making a relationship impossible. 

 

Agreed. On the one hand it could be Cullen out of any of them due to the Qunari invasion he witnessed being used as a reason, however, I don't see why it would affect him baring in mind a Qunari protagonist is a Tal-Vashoth and has nothing to do with the Qun or the Qunari that attacked Kirkwall, which was Isabela's fault anyway, lol. Hell, if he's ready and willing to date a bloody mage protagonist then a Qunari one should be a non-issue, lol!

[CuriousArtemis]

Well, I am black guy that isn't attracted to black guys at all. But does that make me racist for not being sexually attracted to black people?

 

I won't get into that  but, I will say that you are young 

 

But let's not talk about personal stuff because people get defensive and flame wars start lol