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So here's something I used to wonder about which may bear dusting off now that we know Cullen's a LI. Given how duty-bound he is, I always imagine him having very strong opinions about chain of command. So, now imagine Cullen is the Inquisitor's subordinate and he reports to her/him.  Or say, Cullen's not technically under the Inquisitor (no pun intended, hurr hur hurr), so it's not really fraternization, but she/he still outranks him. How would this impact a romance? How would he feel about it? How would  your Inquisitor feel about it? 

 

I'm a little late to this topic, but here are my thoughts anyway:

 

So, now he's been comfirmed as an LI we know that he'll eventually warm to the idea of fraternising with the Inquisitor. However, whether or not this will be a problem for him will likely depend on what his role is in DAI. For example, if he's still a Templar or the leader of an alternative faction helping the Inquisition then it's not really fraternisation since, yes, he's following orders and aiding the Inquisitor with the task(s) at hand BUT he's not directly within the Inquisitor's chain of command. However, if he ends up being recruited into the Inquisition then that would be a different matter, lol. Either way, he obviously doesn't rule out the chance to romance our protagonist, regardless of our her/his title.

 

What I'm more curious about (if he's really been single for all these years) is why he's finally decided to allowed himself to be romanced. OR, if he hasn't always been single from the time we met him in DA:O until now (for which he currently is), what's made him get to the point where he's actually willing to be romanced given the dire situation going in Thedas, rather than waiting until the crisis is over. Admittedly, the former is of more interest to me simply because (from what we've seen of him so far) he's appeared to be too scarred mentally/emotionally and had too much to deal with in Kirkwall to even consider a meaningful relationship (beyond sex, if he's even had any recently/at all).

 

Perhaps he's got to a point in his life where he's battle weary and feeling his mortality; Maybe in light of all the events between DA2 and DAI he took a long hard look at his life and realised that he'd spent it doing what The Order/Chantry/Meredith/etc wanted and had completely ignored and bottled up his own wants, needs and feelings. Maybe he won't reach that phase until a certain point in DAI so that we can see it for ourselves?

 

All I know for sure is that I'm gonna romance the **** out of him!  :lol:  


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I'm a little late to this topic, but here are my thoughts anyway:

 

So, now he's been comfirmed as an LI we know that he'll eventually warm to the idea of fraternising with the Inquisitor. However, whether or not this will be a problem for him will likely depend on what his role is in DAI. For example, if he's still a Templar or the leader of an alternative faction helping the Inquisition then it's not really fraternisation since, yes, he's following orders and aiding the Inquisitor with the task(s) at hand BUT he's not directly within the Inquisitor's chain of command. However, if he ends up being recruited into the Inquisition then that would be a different matter, lol. Either way, he obviously doesn't rule out the chance to romance our protagonist, regardless of our her/his title.

 

What I'm more curious about (if he's really been single for all these years) is why he's finally decided to allowed himself to be romanced. OR, if he hasn't always been single from the time we met him in DA:O until now (for which he currently is), what's made him get to the point where he's actually willing to be romanced given the dire situation going in Thedas, rather than waiting until the crisis is over. Admittedly, the former is of more interest to me simply because (from what we've seen of him so far) he's appeared to be too scarred mentally/emotionally and had too much to deal with in Kirkwall to even consider a meaningful relationship (beyond sex, if he's even had any recently/at all).

 

Perhaps he's got to a point in his life where he's battle weary and feeling his mortality; Maybe in light of all the events between DA2 and DAI he took a long hard look at his life and realised that he'd spent it doing what The Order/Chantry/Meredith/etc wanted and had completely ignored and bottled up his own wants, needs and feelings. Maybe he won't reach that phases until a certain point in DAI so that we can see it for ourselves?

 

All I know for sure is that I'm gonna romance the **** out of him!  :lol:  

 

Agreed on all of the above. However, I have wondered what you guys think - has he had previous relationships? Even if just casual in nature? He doesn't strike me as the casual sex type per say, but perhaps a more casual relationship of some kind with another Templar?

At the same time I'm not certain what the Tempar order itself is like. For example, the circle seems rather relaxed when it comes to the casual tryst in the corner - would the Templar's be similar in that they would 'look the other way'?



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Forgetting Cullen for a moment...

 

Admittedly it is time we have a Templar in the party. A real templar. Alistair never took his vows, and Carver could be a Templar, a Warden, or dead and wasn't in the party much/didn't speak about the Templars much, anyway. I'm interested in seeing the Templar's views on things from an actual companion. 

 

I feel the same way. We've never actually had an honest-to-Maker templar as a companion. 

 

We've never had the perspective of a person who actually worked in a circle, or hunted apostate mages, or fought abominations, or was addicted to lyrium. We have, however, had companions who represented the apostate mage side. If Bioware really wants to humanize both sides of the conflict, I feel like that's a pretty glaring omission. Having Cass doesn't change that for me, because a Seeker is pretty different than a boots-on-the-ground templar.

 

Putting aside for the moment the specifics of the characters, and hypothetically imagining that neither is Cullen, I would rather have Random!Templar than Random!Warden in my party.

 

That's not to say I think a warden would be boring. It's not like if you've seen one warden you've seen them all. If he was an interesting character, I'm sure I'd like him and appreciate his perspective. If I could have unlimited companions, then sure, throw in a warden or two - but I can't, so I'd like us to have a templar for the sake of balance.

 



I'm curious about what Cullen's relationship with Solas is going to be like.  I suppose it depends on Solas' personality but I'm not sure what Cullen would think of an apostate of whom he would have to work alongside.  

 

I think it would throw him at first! But I actually think he'd adjust pretty quickly. After all, everyone's an apostate now, and Cullen is used to working alongside mages. I think once he got over his initial shock, he'd get used to it.

 



 Somehow I think that Vivienne will get along with him, well it depends on her experience of templars but they both are pro-circle and want to stop mage-templar war, at least I think them both like this.

 

I'm the opposite - I see Cullen and Vivienne clashing a lot. They might not be too far apart on mage stuff, but Vivienne is a manipulator and I would expect Cullen to be very wary of mindgames after having people mess with his head at both Kinloch Hold and Kirkwall. I don't personally see them getting along too well, or him having much patience with the social advancement games.

 

Guess we'll have to wait to find out!  :)

 



I've also been wondering, with all the secrets and espionage going around... What do you think his reaction would be if he were asked to do something for the Chantry (being devout) that he saw as going against those morals? Since I'm not very eloquent this morning - ie: like what if your *insert chosen religious figurehead here* asked you kill someone or lie / cheat / steal in the name of *insert deity*? Would Cullen do it? Could he see past the cardinal sin for the 'greater good'? Or would it be a situation where the ends do not justify the means? 

 

I think Cullen would refuse, but he would question the source of the order rather than letting it shake his faith. For example, if the Divine told him to do something that went against his morals, he would decide the Divine wasn't following the will of the Maker, rather than questioning whether he still believed in the Maker at all. While I see him as a person of strong faith, I think he would be pretty cautious about which human instruments of that faith he believed. I don't think he would always have been that way, but after Meredith I think he would be more wary about putting his trust in fallible human beings when they made pronouncements about the Maker's will.


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Perhaps he's got to a point in his life where he's battle weary and feeling his mortality; Maybe in light of all the events between DA2 and DAI he took a long hard look at his life and realised that he'd spent it doing what The Order/Chantry/Meredith/etc wanted and had completely ignored and bottled up his own wants, needs and feelings. Maybe he won't reach that phases until a certain point in DAI so that we can see it for ourselves?

 

All I know for sure is that I'm gonna romance the **** out of him!  :lol:  

 

Before he played with the rules of the other, now he will play his own way.  B)



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Fancy chart time!
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Agreed on all of the above. However, I have wondered what you guys think - has he had previous relationships? Even if just casual in nature? He doesn't strike me as the casual sex type per say, but perhaps a more casual relationship of some kind with another Templar?

At the same time I'm not certain what the Tempar order itself is like. For example, the circle seems rather relaxed when it comes to the casual tryst in the corner - would the Templar's be similar in that they would 'look the other way'?

 

Well, Aveline and Wesley were married. I think perhaps relationships are descouraged because Templars spend the majority of their times in the Circle, but, there are obviously exceptions to this.



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Fancy chart time!tumblr_n4cfmjXqx71qghomuo1_1280.png


What's a Batarian doing dragon age lol :P

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LMAO Bartarian!


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What's a Batarian doing dragon age lol :P

 

He's visiting new places.  :lol:


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All I know about the game is that I'm totally cuddling this:

 

https://www.google.c...398107280605479

 

 

EDIT: And no one's gonna stop me!



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He's visiting new places.  :lol:

 

ME/DA CROSSOVER: CONFIRMED!



Well... there is that theory that the next ME will take place in a different universe... so... 


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ME/DA CROSSOVER: CONFIRMED!



Well... there is that theory that the next ME will take place in a different universe... so... 

 

Wrex: Inquisitor.

Inquisitor: Wrex.

 

*shot*  :rolleyes:


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They said Inquisition was big....... I guess we underestimated it would reach out into batarian space... 





OMG NEXT POST IS 3000!!!!  :o


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Fancy chart time!
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lol i love the last picture of the... "demon" :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Well, Aveline and Wesley were married. I think perhaps relationships are descouraged because Templars spend the majority of their times in the Circle, but, there are obviously exceptions to this.

 

I agree that full fledged relationships appear to be discouraged (it would be difficult to be devoted to both your partner and the Order), but would they allow for casual relationships to flourish? I'm guessing the templars in the smaller towns/chantrys would have more flexible rules than those who served in a Circle, which is likely how Aveline and Wesley met (my guess). I also think that Meredith towards the end of DA 2 would have put a lot of stress/responsibility on Cullen, so he may not have even been interested in relations of any kind.

 

Just... thinking out loud now really. I've always been curious if Cullen had ever been involved with anyone... I guess we'll find out in a few months! :blush:


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The last one in the lower right corner is probably a Rage demon.



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Agreed on all of the above. However, I have wondered what you guys think - has he had previous relationships? Even if just casual in nature? He doesn't strike me as the casual sex type per say, but perhaps a more casual relationship of some kind with another Templar?

At the same time I'm not certain what the Tempar order itself is like. For example, the circle seems rather relaxed when it comes to the casual tryst in the corner - would the Templar's be similar in that they would 'look the other way'?

 

I'm not entirely sure. I think he's probably at least had some sort of tryst at some point in his life, although I'd hope it wasn't with a hooker or anything, lol. It wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't though, simply due to all the unfortunate events he's faced during his time within the Order. I think we can safely assume that during his time in Kirkwall he was pretty snowed under with work, during the quest in which he informs Hawke that they want him to take over Aveline's job he says as much, so if he did have any form of relationship it probably wasn't a serious one.


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I agree that full fledged relationships appear to be discouraged (it would be difficult to be devoted to both your partner and the Order), but would they allow for casual relationships to flourish? I'm guessing the templars in the smaller towns/chantrys would have more flexible rules than those who served in a Circle, which is likely how Aveline and Wesley met (my guess). I also think that Meredith towards the end of DA 2 would have put a lot of stress/responsibility on Cullen, so he may not have even been interested in relations of any kind.

 

Just... thinking out loud now really. I've always been curious if Cullen had ever been involved with anyone... I guess we'll find out in a few months! :blush:

 

Well, if not, he will be involved with someone  :lol:


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Perhaps he's got to a point in his life where he's battle weary and feeling his mortality; Maybe in light of all the events between DA2 and DAI he took a long hard look at his life and realised that he'd spent it doing what The Order/Chantry/Meredith/etc wanted and had completely ignored and bottled up his own wants, needs and feelings.  :lol:  

 

This. I see the fall of Kirkwall as a pretty pivotal event that changed Cullen's thinking on this. I see that as the point where Cullen would start evaluating how his life had gone so far, and how he wanted his life to go. I think when he took a good hard look at himself - a look he never allowed himself to take while working in Kirkwall - he'd see some things about himself that he wanted to change. One of those things, I think, would be having more of a personal life and allowing himself to connect more with other people.

 

Agreed on all of the above. However, I have wondered what you guys think - has he had previous relationships? Even if just casual in nature? He doesn't strike me as the casual sex type per say, but perhaps a more casual relationship of some kind with another Templar?

At the same time I'm not certain what the Tempar order itself is like. For example, the circle seems rather relaxed when it comes to the casual tryst in the corner - would the Templar's be similar in that they would 'look the other way'?

 

I don't see Cullen as being the type for casual hookups. Until told otherwise, the way I imagine it is that Cullen got involved in a couple of relationships during the Kirkwall years (I mean we're talking about a whole decade here!) that never really went anywhere because Cullen was never able to distance himself enough from work to prioritize the relationship, so they just kind of fizzled out.

 

I think after Kirkwall, Cullen would be able to recognize that that wasn't how he wanted the rest of his life to go, and work on changing it.

 

As for the Templar Order, I think they would recognize that expecting a bunch of soldiers, essentially, with a very tough and stressful job to remain celibate and never use that outlet to blow off steam is unrealistic. We know that within certain limits templars are allowed to marry. When it comes to hookups or more casual relationships, I assume the Order would not actively encourage it but would look the other way as long as it didn't interfere with the templar's performance of his or her job (i.e. not with a mage, not fraternizing with a fellow templar, still showing up for duty on time, etc.)


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Well, if not, he will be involved with someone  :lol:

 

Templars take a vow.... but I think that vow is gonna bend..... significantly ;)


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Templars take a vow.... but I think that vow is gonna bend..... significantly ;)

 

Which way will it bend?  ;)


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What would happen if he was engaged to someone in marriage?  :blink:



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What would happen if he was engaged to someone in marriage?  :blink:

 

Then I'm out.  :lol:



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What would happen if he was engaged to someone in marriage?  :blink:

 

Not anymore~  :whistle:  (At least not when my Inquisitor is done with him)


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I'm pretty sure there's no templar vow of celibacy.  ;)


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