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I couldn't come up with a reason any of my characters would be twits and not think 'well, the Circle is just over there.' Mind, it would probably be easier if I didn't always go to the circle first, that way they know something is wrong with the Circle so there might not be the time or even the capacity to deal with that and help Connor. Hmm...   :lol:

For my part, I couldn't think of a reason why my Warden would think "well, it's worth risking a several day journey to the Circle to save one person when this demon has been killing off a good % of the town every single night until now"! :lol: I'm doing a second playthrough now with the same Warden (to play DAA -- switched from Mac to Xbox so I couldn't just use the end-DAO save files) and while I am "fixing" a few things (*cough Harrowmont cough*) I'll still be sticking with letting Isolde die to save Connor unless I've missed some huge in-game evidence to believe everything will be fine. And probably even then... because while this would be horrible justification in character, as a real life person I <3 angry Alistair (in the post-Redcliffe scene) almost as much as angry Cullen.


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#70327
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So I was going through the threads and I saw a nice CC in the Solas thread so I decided to make Clair Trevelyan. I will have all my guys and the rest of my girls up later. So tell me what you think  :D

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Ohh lovely lady! :wub: :D

 

I actually did these awhile ago :D

 

Here's Auren:

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And Kael:

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Well it just depends on the character. I mean some Wardens have only the vaguest concept of what a Circle even IS, let alone where it's located (it's not like everyone jumps forward to tell you about that option, too). As for my main three (although admittedly I never finished Aeducan):

 

Mahariel: Oh my god this idiot human kid is possessed by a demon, let's just kill it and be done with it.

Tabris: Oh, I'm such a goody-goody, is there no other way to solve this?? *finally after a million dialogue choices someone mentions the Circle*

Aeducan: Oh my god this woman is annoying... wait did she just offer to kill herself? YES!

 

Well, of course it depends on the character. I was just talking about my characters. And I tend to go to the Circle first, like I said. So even my Dalish know there's mages there by that point. 

 

And when it comes to Dragon Age games, I don't personally enjoy rping characters that kill annoying people. It's a valid option, just not one I enjoy for Dragon Age. (Fallout, on the other hand... :lol: )

 

I have gone for the mage tower every time (except one when I discovered you couldn't walk down the one hall without triggering a fight). But I'm almost to that point in my Morrigan romance game, and I'm strongly considering going the sacrifice Isolde route just to remove her from the game permanently, lol. I mean, any Orlesian who's been at the Fereldan court as long as she has been and fail to understand how intensely Loghain hates Orlesians and TRUSTS him to send her a mage tutor has the brains of a sandflea.

 

I don't know? I don't think it's too stupid to trust that someone in his position could be professional despite his prejudices, especially when Connor isn't just her son. And it's been so long since I've played, DOES she know Loghain sent Jowan? I know Loghain kept Jowan from being killed and gave him the order to poison the arl, but did he send him to Isolde or did Jowan just 'randomly' show up all 'I can teach your brat!'

 

For my part, I couldn't think of a reason why my Warden would think "well, it's worth risking a several day journey to the Circle to save one person when this demon has been killing off a good % of the town every single night until now"! :lol: I'm doing a second playthrough now with the same Warden (to play DAA -- switched from Mac to Xbox so I couldn't just use the end-DAO save files) and while I am "fixing" a few things (*cough Harrowmont cough*) I'll still be sticking with letting Isolde die to save Connor unless I've missed some huge in-game evidence to believe everything will be fine. And probably even then... because while this would be horrible justification in character, as a real life person I <3 angry Alistair (in the post-Redcliffe scene) almost as much as angry Cullen.

 

It canonly takes two days, if I remember? 



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And probably even then... because while this would be horrible justification in character, as a real life person I <3 angry Alistair (in the post-Redcliffe scene) almost as much as angry Cullen.

 

I remember when he confronted me in camp (I killed the kid the first time around, yep, that was my angry Mahariel :lol:), I was like, um, what?! Back off, dude, I don't recall you offering any alternative solutions! And then I think I lost like 20 approval points?! Disaster all around :lol:



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Well, now Connor is of a certain age....agent in the Inquisition? Yes please!

I'd love to have him and Feynriel work for us.

I was just thinking he'd be around 18ish now, give or take a few years, and wondered if he'll show up if he's still alive. (Leliana to Cullen "Oh, did I forget to mention that Amell saved Arl Eamon's son from demon possession?" Ack, that would be cruel, I guess.)



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I don't know? I don't think it's too stupid to trust that someone in his position could be professional despite his prejudices, especially when Connor isn't just her son. And it's been so long since I've played, DOES she know Loghain sent Jowan? I know Loghain kept Jowan from being killed and gave him the order to poison the arl, but did he send him to Isolde or did Jowan just 'randomly' show up all 'I can teach your brat!'

 

Yes, you can ask her, and she answers "why wouldn't I trust Loghain?" or something very close to that.

 

Edited: I went and looked at my journal from a saved PT, if you ask the right question, she responds "I trusted Loghain. Why wouldn't I? How could I have suspected that the mage he sent would be a murderer?" (I didn't trust my memory, lol, since I know you don't always find this out.)



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Oh man, I literally just did the Redcliffe quest today on my newest playthrough.

 

The very first time I played the game I was a Dalish elf who did not want to leave Redcliffe to go to the mages and did not want to resort to blood magic, not to mention already believed that Connor was tainted from having already invited a demon into himself. I was not anticipating the angry response she got from Alistair.

 

Most of my playthroughs involve sending myself or Morrigan into the Fade after Isolde sacrifices herself. That quest really does feel like every option is a lose option because there should have been a consequence to leaving Redcliffe if you had sought out the mages at the tower.

 

Talking to all the companions just made me all the more excited to be able to talk to Cullen in the future. And all the possible references to our previous Wardens and Hawkes, not to mention his own untapped story. :D



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I was just thinking he'd be around 18ish now, give or take a few years, and wondered if he'll show up if he's still alive. (Leliana to Cullen "Oh, did I forget to mention that Amell saved Arl Eamon's son from demon possession?" Ack, that would be cruel, I guess.)

I want him as one of my mage liasons.

 

Also, Feynriel would be SUCH A FRICKIN' POWERFUL ally. Having a somniari on our side? That'd be priceless. Let Leliana put him to work, and we'll be perfect in no time! He could literally assassinate people in their dreams, and those people would have no chance at all against us. Plus, those people would die without a single trace left behind, so we could literally kill anyone who dares support the Venatori or defies us.


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I always get so much minus from Alistair in Redcliffe quest. How it's my fault that child gets all demonic and kills people and I have to stop him before everyone else dies? If Alistair could do better he should have speak up or shut up.. Also how can I save Connor if I have sided with templars in the broken circle? (usually cause I forget to use litany.. seriously I have used it only like once).

 

Alistair's reaction after the quest just irks me. I just can't get along with him! XD


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I always get so much minus from Alistair in Redcliffe quest. How it's my fault that child gets all demonic and kills people and I have to stop him before everyone else dies? If Alistair could do better he should have speak up or shut up.. Also how can I save Connor if I have sided with templars in the broken circle? (usually cause I forget to use litany.. seriously I have used it only like once).

 

Alistair's reaction after the quest just irks me. I just can't get along with him! XD

 

 

 

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That's why Allistair disapproves of your decisions in Redcliffe.


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I really want to play a pro-Templar and pro-Chantry character at some point, but I find it so hard to roleplay them. I've never managed to complete these in either Origins or DA2, simply because when it comes to annulling the Circle, I can't go through with it. In the back of my mind, I'm always thinking;

 

"So I'm about to enter a large building where special people learn to use their magical powers, backed by an army of soldiers who are hellbent on slaughtering everyone in sight, including the children. Damn... why does this sound all so familiar?" *snip*

 

I thoroughly enjoyed playing Hawke as pro-Templar.  For me, it only made complete sense.  I settled on it for my canon after so many playthroughs it's not even funny.  I played through with every class and then every personality, just trying to refine what it was that worked best.  I went for different options here and there, and finally settled on my canon:

 

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I so can't wait to see what came of him.  Seeing that brief nugget in the last trailer had me cheering out in tremendous excitement.  I just want to know he's semi-okay, mind you.  And maybe he can say something that helps clarify things for my Inquisitor, I dunno.  I'm still trying to wrap my head around how she might approach this question, other than being completely neutral on the entire situation.  As a Dalish Elf, she's not entirely inclined to see the value in either side, except to get all the humans to stop fighting and focus on the bigger threat, maybe.  So I think that whatever Hawke has to offer, in the course of advice or clarification might go a long way towards navigating the eventual choice my Inquisitor makes. 

 

You can't see me but I'm drooling with anticipation to play this through!  And sorry for the book-long description, here.


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#70337
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That horrible moment when you realise that you were never signed in when playing DAO...so none of the 16 playthroughs are shown in achievements....now I'm crying...sniffle.



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That horrible moment when you realise that you were never signed in when playing DAO...so none of the 16 playthroughs are shown in achievements....now I'm crying...sniffle.

 

You can still upload them if you have the saves. If not, you can just use the Keep without it.


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#70339
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I thoroughly enjoyed playing Hawke as pro-Templar.  For me, it only made complete sense.  I settled on it for my canon after so many playthroughs it's not even funny.  I played through with every class and then every personality, just trying to refine what it was that worked best.  I went for different options here and there, and finally settled on my canon:

 

-snip-

My canon Hawke is a mage who sided with the templars and it was the most nuanced, rich and satisfying of any of my Dragon Age playthroughs. It's nice to see someone who played a Hawke similar to mine. :)


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#70340
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My canon Hawke is a mage who sided with the templars and it was the most nuanced, rich and satisfying of any of my Dragon Age playthroughs. It's nice to see someone who played a Hawke similar to mine. :)

 

I've gotten into so many arguments about how "impossible" such a story would prove, but it so worked for me.  Nuanced is a good word.  Deep and even more human a character, like he was as caught up in the events of the story as I was and utterly frustrated he couldn't change it, either.  I totally loved the story from that angle.  And, yea, it is refreshing to hear someone say "I get it", ;)


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Using the achievements thing as an excuse to replay DAO-DAA-DA2 back to back for first DAI keep import.

 

However thanks for letting me know that I can import a save to the keep for the achievements. :)



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My mage Hawke who sided with templars was pretty self-hating: he thought mages were dangerous and wish he hadn't been born a mage but still couldn't give up his freedom and turn himself in. And his idea that most free mages fell into temptation was supported, in his mind, by his own inability to resist since he became a blood mage.


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I played a mage that sided with the templars once, but when Grey Warden Carver came back at the end, he was like "wtf, I came here to help you, but you're fighting your own people? :/" and I felt so bad that I couldn't finish the game. ;_;


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I've gotten into so many arguments about how "impossible" such a story would prove, but it so worked for me.  Nuanced is a good word.  Deep and even more human a character, like he was as caught up in the events of the story as I was and utterly frustrated he couldn't change it, either.  I totally loved the story from that angle.  And, yea, it is refreshing to hear someone say "I get it", ;)

Impossible for them maybe but not impossible period.  ;) I played Hawke as a politically astute woman in a very unique position who sought Circle reform through diplomacy. She believed in the Circle but not in Kirkwall's approach and wanted to make change "slowly, from within", as she described it to Anders. She had big ideas and big dreams for the Kirkwall Circle....sigh. 


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My mage Hawke sides with templars cause he agreed with Aveline: it was best way to minimize casualties, restore order and protect the city. He did it with heavy heart though.

 

I had another non-mage character who sided with templars just cause she wanted to be Viscount :lol: As long as she was able to save Bethany she didn't care much.


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This is from something way back in the thread, butI have to say that anytime I read about someone hardening Cullen, I giggle.
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I have to admit that as player siding with templars is more tempting because of Cullen. If you side with mages big part of his character deveploment isn't shown which is sad. So it's one of reasons why I actually prefer siding with templars :)



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This is from something way back in the thread, butI have to say that anytime I read about someone hardening Cullen, I giggle.

Yeah, the same goes for hardening Alistair. Our minds are always in the gutter ;) :P .