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[R2s Muse]

Hands up who enjoyed doing just this?

 

LOL That was actually my submission... So, a lot I guess.

[BFace]

Another thread mentioned this and I thought I'd ask it here, how do you think Cullen will deal with the Lyrium withdrawal?

This gets brought up every so often, and here's my own take:

 

Who says he'll have to deal much with withdrawal? We're the Inquisition. Surely we have access to lyrium.

 

In a slightly more serious answer: I think I wouldn't even want to guess at this point.  I assume with stoicism and badassery. Anything else, I'm content to wait and see.

[john-in-france]

@R2sMuse...I would have credited you but it said submitted by anonymous

 

I am guilty as charged...well actually my Solona and Marian are...

[Basement Cat]

Yep, that's Skyhold.

 

Hm, someone should make a "Skyfall" parody about Skyhold.

 

BTW, is it just me, or the man with fluffy collar down there, who's commanding the soldiers, is Cullen?

I wonder if that is Skyhold (don't think so. The latest images we got had a lot of greenery around the place) or a fortress they are about to attack?

[john-in-france]

@Pierce Miller...so far we have no reason to believe that there is a lyrium shortage for members of the Inquisition. Also we don't know how addicted or not Cullen is. Going by his character and willpower he'd just take the official dose (according to Asunder this dose is very, very small), not be a cocaine like junkie, or maybe like Alistair he doesn't actually use lyrium at all. 

[R2s Muse]

Am I misremembering/inserting headcanon or was there something in DA2 or the prerelease materials that implies Cullen keeps himself a little isolated from the men?

Nothing in game that I recall except for those who want to read between the lines, imagining how a Fereldan who was so precipitously promoted over other Kirkwallers might be perceived. It's something we've talked about a lot here, but nothing 'official I don't think.

 

Fraternization, gating, issues from DA2. It feels like I'm always asking you guys to help me fix a mental issue. And that's not to fair to you. You should be squeeing not dealing with a skeptic.

You're not the only one (altho it MAY be just us two! LOL). It's something I've talked about a lot over the years and personally find very interesting. I DO think fraternization could be an issue given what a  big deal it is for the Templar Order and that Cullen's own views would likely be strongly shaped by the Order. He's a military man and the Order is run like a military organization with the same prohibitions on fraternization within the ranks. So, ideally, I think it should be an issue for him as he figures out how he relates to this new whippersnapper who's running the Inquisition and giving him orders. 

 

Now, given that he's an advisor to the Inquisitor, he might be outside the chain of command and therefore there may be no technical, ethical issues (outside of the general issue with having relationships with co-workers, which I don't think they'll address/include). But if he is this "General" we've heard tell of... he could have these concerns. 

[jtav]

If the Inquisition doesn't have a steady lyrium supply, it'll probably have other problems as well. We'll probably acquire connections.

 

*ping* There's my Cullanmancer!

[JasonPogo]

So we know advisors will not leave.  But do you think we can make them hate us?  As much as I like Cullen I kinda want to make a mage character that is bitter as hell at Templars.  If the game lets me she will just be very cold and angry with anything to do with them.  Would be fun role-play wise to see how that would play out. 

[QueenofFereldan]

Nothing in game that I recall except for those who want to read between the lines, imagining how a Fereldan who was so precipitously promoted over other Kirkwallers might be perceived. It's something we've talked about a lot here, but nothing 'official I don't think.

 

You're not the only one (altho it MAY just us two! LOL). It's something I've talked about a lot over the years and personally find very interesting. I DO think fraternization could be an issue given what a  big deal it is for the Templar Order and that Cullen's own views would likely be strongly shaped by the Order. He's a military man and the Order is run like a military organization with the same prohibitions on fraternization within the ranks. So, ideally, I think it should be an issue for him as he figures out how he relates to this new whippersnapper who's running the Inquisition and giving him orders. 

 

Now, given that he's an advisor to the Inquisitor, he might be outside the chain of command and therefore there may be no technical, ethical issues (outside of the general issue with having relationships with co-workers, which I don't think they'll address/include). But if he is this "General" we've heard tell of... he could have these concerns. 

 

So long as we don't force him into the relationship and he slowly decides to try to make it work, I will be happy if they bring it up.

[Basement Cat]

@Pierce Miller...so far we have no reason to believe that there is a lyrium shortage for members of the Inquisition. Also we don't know how addicted or not Cullen is. Going by his character and willpower he'd just take the official dose (according to Asunder this dose is very, very small), not be a cocaine like junkie, or maybe like Alistair he doesn't actually use lyrium at all. 

Mmh, I would find it more interesting if they actually included the lyrium addiction and its consequences/problems in the game. If just to make him radically different from Alistair. I thought it was great that they show Cullen to be such a strong leader after Alistair dumped all the tough choices on us in Origins.

 

I'm thinking we might actually struggle to become the leader this time around considering we are surrounded by people who were essentially the heads of their respective groups: Cassandra, Cullen, Vivienne, Iron Bull and Blackwall. They all had a leadership position at some point. It would make a nice contrast to Origins.

[JasonPogo]

Also about the lyrium thing.  Remember is you are a Dwarf Inquisitor you re part of the Carta.  Their main business is smuggling lyrium.  You could prob get your hands on some.

[QueenofFereldan]

Mmh, I would find it more interesting if they actually included the lyrium addiction and its consequences/problems in the game. If just to make him radically different from Alistair. I thought it was great that they show Cullen to be such a strong leader after Alistair dumped all the tough choices on us in Origins.

 

I'm thinking we might actually struggle to become the leader this time around considering we are surrounded by people who were essentially the heads of their respective groups: Cassandra, Cullen, Vivienne, Iron Bull and Blackwall. They all had a leadership position at some point. It would make a nice contrast to Origins.

 

Hey, if they do that, maybe we can question them on why they aren't the leaders and we're around only to close the Breach.

[Pierce Miller]

@Pierce Miller...so far we have no reason to believe that there is a lyrium shortage for members of the Inquisition. Also we don't know how addicted or not Cullen is. Going by his character and willpower he'd just take the official dose (according to Asunder this dose is very, very small), not be a cocaine like junkie, or maybe like Alistair he doesn't actually use lyrium at all. 

Alistair never took his vows that's why he avoided using lyrium but Cullen was a Templar since DAO so we're talking at least ten years of lyrium use.

[R2s Muse]

@R2sMuse...I would have credited you but it said submitted by anonymous

 

I am guilty as charged...well actually my Solona and Marian are...

Oh, I know! It was a long time ago. It's sad the tumblr didn't continue.

[R2s Muse]

I wonder if that is Skyhold (don't think so. The latest images we got had a lot of greenery around the place) or a fortress they are about to attack?

The title of that piece is A New Home, so it's a pretty good guess that it's Skyhold. The maybe!Cullen in the distance was one of our pieces of circumstantial evidence back before he'd been announced. 

[madzilla84]

Hey, if they do that, maybe we can question them on why they aren't the leaders and we're around only to close the Breach.

I've been wondering about this, too. It made sense in Origins, because there were only 2 wardens and Alistair didn't want to lead (and, to begin with, didn't really have the temperament to do so). Whereas in DAI we're surrounded by people who are already experienced leaders and in some cases, have been for a long time. I wonder if they'll provide us with any info as to why these people would want to follow the Inquisitor, who may well be inexperienced in these sorts of matters? In some cases it might be due to the 'Herald of Andraste' thing, but that wouldn't apply to all ... Hmm, colour me intrigued.

[Basement Cat]

The title of that piece is A New Home, so it's a pretty good guess that it's Skyhold. The maybe!Cullen in the distance was one of our pieces of circumstantial evidence back before he'd been announced. 

Ah! Guess it is Skyhold then. I like how maybe!Cullen is down there working while the Inquisitor is just standing there looking badass. (with Solas and Cassandra, I think?)

[R2s Muse]

@Pierce Miller...so far we have no reason to believe that there is a lyrium shortage for members of the Inquisition. Also we don't know how addicted or not Cullen is. Going by his character and willpower he'd just take the official dose (according to Asunder this dose is very, very small), not be a cocaine like junkie, or maybe like Alistair he doesn't actually use lyrium at all. 

The thing here is that Alistair was wrong in DA:O about needing lyrium to use Templar abilities. DG has since clarified that if you stop taking it, you'll lose those abilities. So I think the question for the story would be whether they still want Cullen being Templar-like in his abilities. My own guess is that they'll just leave him on it so he can still Smite away. I don't want them to completely ignore his dependence on it, but I'm not personally interested in a withdrawal/addiction storyline for him. 

[jtav]

@R2

 

Thanks for making me feel a little less odd. I'm not really worried about sexually harassing Cullen, more just making it understood that if the choice is between Cullen and the Inquisition, duty comes first and I'll do my best to be impartial. It was one of those things I decided pretty early on would be a core trait of my Inquisitors. First in, last out. "Loved I not honor more, etc"

[LolaLei]

The title of that piece is A New Home, so it's a pretty good guess that it's Skyhold. The maybe!Cullen in the distance was one of our pieces of circumstantial evidence back before he'd been announced. 

 

I guess that depicts everyone moving in, lol.

[JasonPogo]

I guess that depicts everyone moving in, lol.

 

If that's true it is interesting to see we will get Solas so early in the game.  Our first mage I guess.

[john-in-france]

@Pierce Miller, Not arguing about that, Cullen has served the order long enough to definitely be on the official dose. Just about the weird idea that we have no lyrium...I don't see Cullen as one of the Templar who gave into the addiction and chased more than the official dose...he has already shown himself to have very strong willpower.

 

Alistair not needing lyrium may be down to dragon blood, or elf mage mother (what a retcon his history has had!), not just his not being a full Templar.

 

It has some interesting story ideas, and the lyrium dose is most certainly going to be mentioned when we talk about the Red Templar and the fact that red lyrium has driven them bonzo. I just don't see this as a major part of Cullens story arc that's all.

[Iceyone]

I think Cullen probably does need lyrium, rather than addiction, I prefer to call it a dependancy. I imagine he has it well under control considering the amount of years he has managed the need. I don't we'll see Cullen falling into withdrawal under his own steam. He seems to have too much willpower and self-discipline to allow that to happen.

As I said before, if one of the options is to send him to Redcliffe in Lelianas place, you may see it addressed there, that would be one hell of a torture for an ex-Templar  

Like R2, I'd prefer they just left it as something that he does but that it's not actively brought up in any dialogues etc.

[R2s Muse]

@R2

 

Thanks for making me feel a little less odd. I'm not really worried about sexually harassing Cullen, more just making it understood that if the choice is between Cullen and the Inquisition, duty comes first and I'll do my best to be impartial. It was one of those things I decided pretty early on would be a core trait of my Inquisitors. First in, last out. "Loved I not honor more, etc"

Exactly this! My own interest is that I think Cullen would have a hard time putting the needs of an individual above the needs of the many.  I could see that being a serious personal conflict for him once he becomes involved. I'd be interested to see him struggle with how falling in love with you makes him have to readjust some of his priorities and how this influences his Duty™. This becomes even more complicated, I would imagine, if you're his superior and the Decider of Things. This is an angle I'd LOVE for them to explore with him. ... soo many plot threads, so few words to spend...

[JasonPogo]

@Pierce Miller, Not arguing about that, Cullen has served the order long enough to definitely be on the official dose. Just about the weird idea that we have no lyrium...I don't see Cullen as one of the Templar who gave into the addiction and chased more than the official dose...he has already shown himself to have very strong willpower.

 

Alistair not needing lyrium may be down to dragon blood, or elf mage mother (what a retcon his history has had!), not just his not being a full Templar.

 

It has some interesting story ideas, and the lyrium dose is most certainly going to be mentioned when we talk about the Red Templar and the fact that red lyrium has driven them bonzo. I just don't see this as a major part of Cullens story arc that's all.

 

Well the real reason for Alistair not needing the lyrium was that they scrapped the addiction storyline in DAO during development due to time and resources.  However the Templar specialization stayed in game.  So they wrote in the not needing it bit to explain his and your Warden being able to use Templar skills.  It was a compromise they did not really want to use but had to. 

 

So I would guess they will back peddle off the not needing it bit.  Just kinda ignore it story wise from this point forward.