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[QueenofFereldan]

I think Dalish would be easier. I have this image of Trevelyan as fairly sheltered. Plus the Lavellans areprotectors and leaders, like Cullen, And, hm, the Dalish we've met did seem to like dealing with problems with a certain degree of certainty. My Dalish mage is pretty noble and wanting to save everyone but maybe a hunter wouldn't be?

 

Sorry, just thinking out loud.

 

I think a Dalish would definitely be interesting! Until Solas was announced for elves, I was thinking of having an Elven Mage for Cullen. Perhaps, despite their different religious beliefs, your Elven Inquisitor and Cullen can bond on their wish to protect those they care for and work for a way for balance?

[The Elder King]

They're gonna handwave the hell out of that. You can argue that he was a young enough member at the time not to have any major addiction to the substance, so he could hold out longer.
 
Regardless, as we see with Evangeline in Asunder, a Knight Captain level member can more than likely go a week or a little more without having any issues. As Cullen was a Knight Captain for about a decade, he's probably even more addicted than she was.

I wonder how much Gregoir was taking. Plus, he has/had an impressive Willpower. He was very old in DAO and still lucid.

[jtav]

Well Cullen has impressive willpower, as evidenced by him not completely losing it in DAO when his fellows are dead or mad.

 

@QueenOfFereldan

 

The more I think about Dalish hunter/Cullen the more I like it. I think that can give me the mix of pragmatism and duty I need for someone who'd romance Cullen but not Blackwall. Thanks.

[QueenofFereldan]

Well Cullen has impressive willpower, as evidenced by him not completely losing it in DAO when his fellows are dead or mad.

 

@QueenOfFereldan

 

The more I think about Dalish hunter/Cullen the more I like it. I think that can give me the mix of pragmatism and duty I need for someone who'd romance Cullen but not Blackwall. Thanks.

 

You're welcome! I know you are still skeptical about Cullen, but maybe you can romance Blackwall first and take that playthrough to learn about Cullen? I plan in mine to romance Cullen first with a Human Mage, but I plan to use it to learn more about the other characters. Then, I can decide who I want to romance next.

[riverbanks]

Regardless, as we see with Evangeline in Asunder, a Knight Captain level member can more than likely go a week or a little more without having any issues. As Cullen was a Knight Captain for about a decade, he's probably even more addicted than she was.

 

And it's not like access to lyrium has been completely shut off, in any case. There are loyal Templars outside the Red Templars dissidents and the Seekers are still around to provide the lyrium for them, and the Carta is still smuggling as usual (the dwarf Inquisitor is even a smuggler herself). As long as he gets his tiny little vial every week or two, as Asunder implies, Cullen can function perfectly well for decades longer. He shouldn't have issues with his, yes, addiction, for a long time still.

 

Evangeline on the other hand... I really hope she and Rhys don't show up in game just to show us she's gone insane with withdrawal or anything (or worse, just to die in the opening scene). They're smart, they could've found a smuggler anywhere.

[Tishina]

Honestly, I've never been interested in Cullen's character primarily as a LI (honestly, from the bits we're hearing, Blackwall is probably much more my type). What I find fascinating about him is the extent to which he changes and questions his own ideas over time. Real people are dynamic, not static, and many of us change our ideas in a serious way over time, sometimes making a complete 180. It's that development and the fact he's genuinely trying to decide what's best that intrigues me. Too often NPCs are static and only change if it turns out they were secretly some sort of agent.

[Iceyone]

Everyone has such awesome backstories and ideas about their Inquisitors, they seem more and more like real people, flaws and all. Off the bat are any of your main ones pure self-inserts or do you just take bits and pieces of your own personality? or do you avoid any similarities atall?

 

 

meanwhile, Silly Saturday #101 - The RL DAI npc crew back around the table:

 

Cullen - "72 days to go guys, everyone is almost ready to rock, mages, ex-templars, demons, soldiers, nugs and fennecs have all reported in"

Cass - " Oh maker, there are so many people going to die.....I think knowing about it makes it so much worse"

Blackwall - "They are pixels Cass, never worry, it'll look messy and bad but remember they won't actually feel anything"

Solas - "Are the pyro-technicians prepared?, I've been teaching them a few special effects"

Sera - " Seems so, I've been seeing green sh!t booms for days now"

Dorian - "You sure that wasn't your latest concoction of alcohol Sera?"

Varric - "I think I'm going to burst if I can't talk about all the stuff I know...do you realise how hard this is for me?, I just don't know if I can hold out"

Josie - "Varric.....you signed an NDA...don't you dare, you'll give away spoilers, devs will get mad and there will be no DA4 for you!"

IB - "You lot need to chillax, stressing and b!tching about it isn't going to change anything or make it come any quicker you know"

Leliana - "Psht Bull, it's easy for you to say, I've read my script and watched the trailer, they send me to freakin Redcliffe.....I know...sucks to be me huh?"

[Not a Cat Doll]

Honestly, I've never been interested in Cullen's character primarily as a LI (honestly, from the bits we're hearing, Blackwall is probably much more my type). What I find fascinating about him is the extent to which he changes and questions his own ideas over time. Real people are dynamic, not static, and many of us change our ideas in a serious way over time, sometimes making a complete 180. It's that development and the fact he's genuinely trying to decide what's best that intrigues me. Too often NPCs are static and only change if it turns out they were secretly some sort of agent.

Yes, exactly. We've seen his character develop, for better or for worse, over the course of two games. Which is why I always laugh at people who come in here asking why others are interested in him. Perhaps because we know him a bit already? It's certainly a lot more to base an opinion on than a pretty picture and a quote, like most of the other love interests.

[QueenofFereldan]

Yes, exactly. We've seen his character develop, for better or for worse, over the course of two games. Which is why I always laugh at people who come in here asking why others are interested in him. Perhaps because we know him a bit already? It's certainly a lot more to base an opinion on than a pretty picture and a quote, like most of the other love interests.

 

I agree with that! I am interested in the others, but more interested in Cullen at the moment. Hence why he's my first target.

[jtav]

And I'm certainly interested in him as a character. Wouldn't be here otherwise.

[Not a Cat Doll]

I agree with that! I am interested in the others, but more interested in Cullen at the moment. Hence why he's my first target.

Hehe, I love the use of the phrase "my first target," because it's so...Cupid-y! Anyway, yes, my reasons are the same. I want to know more about how he has changed. To this end, it is likely that my first Inquisitor will be more of a self-insert than is typical for me- because I am just so danged curious about him.

[Not a Cat Doll]

And I'm certainly interested in him as a character. Wouldn't be here otherwise.

Your questions about Cullen and why you might take an interest in him are markedly different than the ones asked by the inept trolls that this thread occasionally attracts.

 

It is just ironic to me that "Cullenites" are so often asked to defend or convince other people of his appeal, claiming that he hasn't done anything to deserve the attention, by folks who then turn around and enthuse about a character based solely on their looks ( I don't begrudge anyone their right to get excited about a character for any reason at all. They are, after all, not subject to my approval. I only ask for the same courtesy.)

[R2s Muse]

BTW, I will admit here that I have never played DA2 for several reason, though I've watched videos enough to be familiar with most of it, so do they actually say in there that Templars can't fraternize within the order? There's a big difference between two prison guards fraternizing and a prison guard and prisoner (mage) fraternizing. It was only the Templar-mage fraternization that I was aware was forbidden.

It's not discussed in-game, but by David Gaider. 
 
Initial post on templars and chastity:
http://forum.bioware...-2#entry3697948
Continuation:
http://forum.bioware...age-2?p=3698065
 
 

Before anyone asks, the Chantry also discourages templars from marrying each other even more so-- that's considered fraternization within the ranks (the templars are run as a military order, remember, and possess the same discipline).

And obviously mages wouldn't be marrying templars in the Circle (oh the controversy that would cause!).. right?

 
That would probably be considered compromising for the templar, so I don't imagine permission would be granted. Fraternization between templars and mages would also be forbidden, just as fraternization between templars is-- for the same reason.

[Hellion Rex]

Evangeline on the other hand... I really hope she and Rhys don't show up in game just to show us she's gone insane with withdrawal or anything (or worse, just to die in the opening scene). They're smart, they could've found a smuggler anywhere.

Um, considering Evangeline has a new best friend, I think she could very well be immune at this point.

[jtav]

Your questions about Cullen and why you might take an interest in him are markedly different than the ones asked by the inept trolls that this thread occasionally attracts.

 

It is just ironic to me that "Cullenites" are so often asked to defend or convince other people of his appeal, claiming that he hasn't done anything to deserve the attention, by folks who then turn around and enthuse about a character based solely on their looks ( I don't begrudge anyone their right to get excited about a character for any reason at all. They are, after all, not subject to my approval. I only ask for the same courtesy.)

Cullen's someone whose appeal I get very easily--a mix of conflicted practical, and knight in shining armor. I do appreciate how generous you've all been with me.

[LolaLei]

I'm still concerned that the romance arc and general interaction with him and Josephine (despite them having the same amount of content and dialogue) will feel lacking or kinda dull if it's all mostly gonna take place within the Skyhold... was kinda hoping on the few occasions where they do pop up in quests with us that some of the romance arc will play into that, for example sending Cullen/Josephine in to deal with that whole Redcliffe issue, and having to rescue them from being chained up/whatever and then getting some sort of blurb recognising their feelings for each other (since that quest is supposed to be fairly early on).

 

For example:

 

Cullen/Josephine: *hanging from the chains* "... Oh, thank the Maker! I-I thought you were dead!"

 

Inquisitor: *Cuts him/her down* "Shhh-shhhh, it's alright, I'm here. I'm so sorry"/*Insert other optional replies*

 

Cullen/Josephine: *Stumbles forward as he/she is released into the arms of the Inquisitor as they embrace for longer than they should*

 

Cullen/Josephine: "Blah blah, some sort of blurb that makes it obvious that he/she was scared that they'd lost the Inquisitor without directly saying so"

 

Inquisitor: "Blah blah, something about not leaving him/her behind, hinting that the Inquisitor feels the same without directly saying etc"

 

*Cue companion reminding them that their lives are in danger, they should probably move quickly and that they can finish their little chat once they're out of this hell hole*

[QueenofFereldan]

Cullen's someone whose appeal I get very easily--a mix of conflicted practical, and knight in shining armor. I do appreciate how generous you've all been with me.

 

Oh yeah, though I will admit that I didn't like him too much on my first playthrough. It was during a brief stint with a mage and then DA 2 that helped me with him.

[R2s Muse]

Your questions about Cullen and why you might take an interest in him are markedly different than the ones asked by the inept trolls that this thread occasionally attracts.
 
It is just ironic to me that "Cullenites" are so often asked to defend or convince other people of his appeal, claiming that he hasn't done anything to deserve the attention, by folks who then turn around and enthuse about a character based solely on their looks ( I don't begrudge anyone their right to get excited about a character for any reason at all. They are, after all, not subject to my approval. I only ask for the same courtesy.)

I don't know that the folks who hate on us and troll us are a very monolithic group. They have as many varying likes and dislikes as we do... outside of the interest they have in rattling our cages. I think the Cullen fans are just an easy target.

[R2s Muse]

Um, considering Evangeline has a new best friend, I think she could very well be immune at this point.

"new best friend" *snicker* I like that description.

[Hellion Rex]

"new best friend" *snicker* I like that description.

Lol, I'm too lazy to type spoiler tags, but I wanted to be as vague as I could be.

[jtav]

Honestly, I think there's something about the love interest for women that brings out trolls. You wouldn't believe the number of times those of us who wanted Blackwall as a LI were mocked. Actually, you probably would.

[john-in-france]

@R2sMuse : re Gaider on Fraternization...just as well my Templar quizzie and Cullen don't see themselves as still Templars then....As leader of the Inquisition my quizzys stance is love and hope are the domain of the Maker, and as such should be acknowledged within the dark times that we live in. (truth be told my Quizzy is secretly worried that on the closure of the last rift she'll die too...so she is conflicted about starting a relationship, and a mere dalliance wouldn't suit her)

[john-in-france]

@Jtav: My dwarf Quizzy will be most enchanted by Blackwalls amazing beard...

[R2s Muse]

Honestly, I think there's something about the love interest for women that brings out trolls. You wouldn't believe the number of times those of us who wanted Blackwall as a LI were mocked. Actually, you probably would.

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yes

[jtav]

My *new* stance on fraternization is that I'm Dalish. Marrying (or whatever it is for Dalish, been a while) a fellow hunter or the Keeper marrying a hunter is nothing unusual. And they would still expect orders to be obeyed. So the idea of the Inquisitor and the leader of her armies being together seems entirely natural, though she still wouldn't be inclined to put Cullen ahead of the group as a whole.