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I wish I have the same confidence you are. The description of what is happening in the hinterlands makes me think I'll lose Yoiree deciding which faction support, since they're both being idiotic :(.

 

Well, I'm really just going off the back of the his writer's interview, his character blurb and that fanfic that DG described as "accurate".

 

While I don't think he'll ever be pro-mage, by the end of DA2 he was sympathetic towards them (Templar-side) and he seems to have realised a few things during that process. I can't imagine us siding with the mages will make him leave the Inquisition or dump a female Inquisitor for it. After all, he knows that his fellow rebel Templars are no better and are actively hunting and killing mages out in the field, which also isn't what he stands for... hell, thanks to them they played a massive part in the Divine's death due to that peace gathering needing to be held in the first place.

 

Do I think he'll question the Inquisitor's decision? Absolutely, but then I think he would probably question it if you sided with the Templars are were behaving too balls-to-the-wall hardlined as well.


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Well, I'm really just going off the back of the his writer's interview, his character blurb and that fanfic that DG described as "accurate".
 
While I don't think he'll ever be pro-mage, by the end of DA2 he was sympathetic towards them (Templar-side) and he seems to have realised a few things. I can't imagine us siding with the mages will make him leave the Inquisition or dump a female Inquisitor for it. After all, he knows that his fellow rebel Templars are no better and are actively hunting and killing mages out in the field, which also isn't what he stands for... hell, thanks to them they played a massive part in the Divine's death due to that peace gathering needing to be held in the first place.
 
Do I think he'll question the Inquisitor's decision? Absolutely, but then I think he would probably question it if you sided with the Templars are were behaving too balls-to-the-wall hardlined as well.

Oh no, i agree completely with your opinion on Cullen. I meant i want to have your confidence in knowing which side support :P. The fact that they're both acting horribly will make difficult for Fëanor to pick one. I'd prefer to negotiate an armistice, but it doesn't seem to be possible.

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They said we will finnish the templar/mage war early in the story right? I wonder if we will have all the companions by then.

 

During the Gamescom demo, they only had Blackwall, Varric, Cassandra, Solas and Cole.



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Im sure that when you meet him in game it will all fall together. That Dorian though :wub:  your lucky qunari quizzy

 

Oh I'm going to romance Dorian with elf that I planned just for him ^^ My qunari quizzy will now romance Cass. I think I have to just get used Cullen with my human quizzy :)


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They said we will finnish the templar/mage war early in the story right? I wonder if we will have all the companions by then.
 
During the Gamescom demo, they only had Blackwall, Varric, Cassandra, Solas and Cole.

Possibly.
Now that i think of, that would confirm my theory that Cass, Varric and Solas are the three 'starters' :lol:.

By the way Milan, there's some thread where I can find those keep screenshot?

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Possibly.
Now that i think of, that would confirm my theory that Cass, Varric and Solas are the three 'starters' :lol:.

By the way Milan, there's some thread where I can find those keep screenshot?

 

That actually makes sense. Both story and gameplay wise. 

 

As for the keep screenshots; you can find them on tumblr ;)


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That actually makes sense. Both story and gameplay wise. 
 
As for the keep screenshots; you can find them on tumblr ;)

Thanks :)

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Do I think he'll question the Inquisitor's decision? Absolutely, but then I think he would probably question it if you sided with the Templars are were behaving too balls-to-the-wall hardlined as well.

 

I certainly hope so! I'm really counting on him to be the voice of reason that makes my PC slow her roll and approach at the situation with a more level-headed outlook. Cassandra could fulfill that role in his absence, I suppose, but it wouldn't have the same strenght as Cullen having reached that level of character maturity that he can balance the PC out from either side.

 

That's, of course, all predicated on us even having Cullen at the time we deal with this conflict. The devs seemed to be mentioning Cullen a bit of a ways into their playthroughs last week, and if we're really to solve this mage/templar subplot early on, we might not even have got our general proper yet by the time we make a decision. Then I guess he'll just have to go with whatever we decided.



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I certainly hope so! I'm really counting on him to be the voice of reason that makes my PC slow her roll and approach at the situation with a more level-headed outlook. Cassandra could fulfill that role in his absence, I suppose, but it wouldn't have the same strenght as Cullen having reached that level of character maturity that he can balance the PC out from either side.

 

A voice of reason will be most welcome. Then again, Cullen could read the phone book with that voice and I'd be content. Just keep talking and I'll do whatever you want! What's that? You want me to light that box of kittens on fire? *dreamy sigh* Ok, honey.  :wub:


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Oh no, i agree completely with your opinion on Cullen. I meant i want to have your confidence in knowing which side support :P. The fact that they're both acting horribly will make difficult for Fëanor to pick one. I'd prefer to negotiate an armistice, but it doesn't seem to be possible.

 

Oh! Meh, I'm just assuming I'll side with the mages because I always have done so far... plus, it's difficult to side with the Templars given their behaviour in recent years, especially in that Asunder novel! 


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Possibly.
Now that i think of, that would confirm my theory that Cass, Varric and Solas are the three 'starters' :lol:.

By the way Milan, there's some thread where I can find those keep screenshot?

 

I was told it was just the party they wanted to start out with due to the banter, lol.



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I certainly hope so! I'm really counting on him to be the voice of reason that makes my PC slow her roll and approach at the situation with a more level-headed outlook. Cassandra could fulfill that role in his absence, I suppose, but it wouldn't have the same strenght as Cullen having reached that level of character maturity that he can balance the PC out from either side.

 

That's, of course, all predicated on us even having Cullen at the time we deal with this conflict. The devs seemed to be mentioning Cullen a bit of a ways into their playthroughs last week, and if we're really to solve this mage/templar subplot early on, we might not even have got our general proper yet by the time we make a decision. Then I guess he'll just have to go with whatever we decided.

 

It kinda sounded like we'd have to recruit Josephine and Cullen ourselves, didn't it... which is confusing because in those articles it said that Cassandra recruited Cullen and Leliana recruited Josephine... unless they just happen to be away at the time of the explosion, so afterwards we have to track the pair of them down or something?



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It kinda sounded like we'd have to recruit Josephine and Cullen ourselves, didn't it... which is confusing because in those articles it said that Cassandra recruited Cullen and Leliana recruited Josephine... unless they just happen to be away at the time of the explosion, so afterwards we have to track the pair of them down or something?

 

Makes you also wonder how involved they are at the start when Cass detains you (if they are already recruited)



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I wonder if Cullen will make a sh!tty comment when he first meets you if you're a mage? Like "great, another mage to throw a spanner in the works" or something when they're still suspicious of us? 

 

... If he does, he's gonna get a right royal bollocking cos my me!Inquisitor don't take no crap from some random gob shite!  :lol:


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Makes you also wonder how involved they are at the start when Cass detains you (if they are already recruited)

 

I wanna know why Leliana and Cassandra (and to an extent, Cullen) weren't at the peace gathering, shouldn't they be protecting the Divine, LOL!


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Oh! Meh, I'm just assuming I'll side with the mages because I always have done so far... plus, it's difficult to side with the Templars given their behaviour in recent years, especially in that Asunder novel!

On Asunder, I honestly blame both sides (though after the events of DA2 it was logical things would've worsened), and Adrian still is the main responsible for the breakout. Without her actions the conclave wouldn't have ended they wait it did.

I did side so far with the mages in my canons, but for DA2 Anders 'saved the day' for myself. They both shown their worst side in the game. My Hawke was neutral. The fact that the Circle was innocent about the destruction of the Chantry is the sole reason I managed to pick a side in the canon (I don't have problems in roleplaying pro-mages or pro-templars characters, but my canon is based on my opinions and values).
For DAI, I'll choose by both the informations the PC will manage to have from previous events, and how the factions are acted. Sadly, it seems both are acting in horrible way (maybe for the loss of leadership?). I hope the game will show a good side of the two factions too.
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I wanna know why Leliana and Cassandra (and to an extent, Cullen) weren't at the peace gathering, shouldn't they be protecting the Divine, LOL!

 

Looks like they'll need a kick up the arse for slacking off! Hmm then again they'd be dead...

I think my quizzy's going to pissed at all of them if they're involved in her being detained


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On Asunder, I honestly blame both sides (though after the events of DA2 it was logical things would've worsened), and Adrian still is the main responsible for the breakout. Without her actions the conclave wouldn't have ended they wait it did.

I did side so far with the mages in my canons, but for DA2 Anders 'saved the day' for myself. They both shown their worst side in the game. My Hawke was neutral. The fact that the Circle was innocent about the destruction of the Chantry is the sole reason I managed to pick a side in the canon (I don't have problems in roleplaying pro-mages or pro-templars characters, but my canon is based on my opinions and values).
For DAI, I'll choose by both the informations the PC will manage to have from previous events, and how the factions are acted. Sadly, it seems both are acting in horrible way (maybe for the loss of leadership?). I hope the game will show a good side of the two factions too.

 

That's why I was pro-mage for most of my DA2 PTs... I was disappointed that Orsino resorted to blood magic even when siding with him but I do also believe a lot turn to it as a means to an end (though I *personally* don't agree with it)



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On Asunder, I honestly blame both sides (though after the events of DA2 it was logical things would've worsened), and Adrian still is the main responsible for the breakout. Without her actions the conclave wouldn't have ended they wait it did.

I did side so far with the mages in my canons, but for DA2 Anders 'saved the day' for myself. They both shown their worst side in the game. My Hawke was neutral. The fact that the Circle was innocent about the destruction of the Chantry is the sole reason I managed to pick a side in the canon (I don't have problems in roleplaying pro-mages or pro-templars characters, but my canon is based on my opinions and values).
For DAI, I'll choose by both the informations the PC will manage to have from previous events, and how the factions are acted. Sadly, it seems both are acting in horrible way (maybe for the loss of leadership?). I hope the game will show a good side of the two factions too.

 

What I found interesting was that in DA2 the Templar Carver that let Malcolm Hawke escape had used his discretion and was allowed to make allowances and do things like that back then. In Asunder they mention that the mages used to be allowed to take day trips to the city all the time, whereas now the Order is completely corrupt and had all the mages restricted and locked up... something had to have happened to make them all change and crack down like that. Could it be that one of the big bad's "agents" had been pulling strings behind the scenes for decades all to lead up to this point?

 

Maybe it's not the mages or the Templars fau.t 


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I was told it was just the party they wanted to start out with due to the banter, lol.

  
Thought so. I still think the three will be 'forced' on us at first.

It kinda sounded like we'd have to recruit Josephine and Cullen ourselves, didn't it... which is confusing because in those articles it said that Cassandra recruited Cullen and Leliana recruited Josephine... unless they just happen to be away at the time of the explosion, so afterwards we have to track the pair of them down or something?

I don't think we'll solve the war in the hinterlands before we're already stationed in Skyhold, when we already have a little bit of organization and forces.
Though to be honest I seem to interpret the early part being in Haven differently from most people. I don't think we'll be in Haven that long. I think it'll be like this: prologue-destruction-imprisonment-some plot to make is Discover our powers (Solas?) and be put in charge-Haven/Skyhold acquirement plot-rest of the game.

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Looks like they'll need a kick up the arse for slacking off! Hmm then again they'd be dead...

I think my quizzy's going to pissed at all of them if they're involved in her being detained

 

My theory is that the Divine knew something bad would likely happen and purposely kept them away from the peace gathering to ensure that her "plan B" (the Inquisition) would thrive should the worst happen.


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What I found interesting was that in DA2 the Templar Carver that let Malcolm Hawke escape had used his discretion and was allowed to make allowances and do things like that back then. In Asunder they mention that the mages used to be allowed to take day trips to the city all the time, whereas now the Order is completely corrupt and had all the mages restricted and locked up... something had to have happened to make them all change and crack down like that. Could it be that one of the big bad's "agents" had been pulling strings behind the scenes for decades all to lead up to this point?
 
Maybe it's not the mages or the Templars fau.t

I thought the imprisonment and locked things in Asunder happened because of the events of Kirkwall, which made the templars act harsher in every Circle.
In Kirwkall the templars were harsher already, but it was stated before DA2's release as well.

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That's why I was pro-mage for most of my DA2 PTs... I was disappointed that Orsino resorted to blood magic even when siding with him but I do also believe a lot turn to it as a means to an end (though I *personally* don't agree with it)

Depends. There were a lot of crazy mages in general.
Though I personally think that Kirkwall's particular situation with the Veil made people crazier.
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Thought so. I still think the three will be 'forced' on us at first. I don't think we'll solve the war in the hinterlands before we're already stationed in Skyhold, when we already have a little bit of organization and forces.

Though to be honest I seem to interpret the early part being in Haven differently from most people. I don't think we'll be in Haven that long. I think it'll be like this: prologue-destruction-imprisonment-some plot to make is Discover our powers (Solas?) and be put in charge-Haven/Skyhold acquirement plot-rest of the game.

 

I know they said that we wouldn't be the Inquisitor immediately and that for a good chunk of time we'd be basically running around after Cassandra and the advisors until the point when for whatever reason they decide to make us the Inquisitor, by which time we'd be ready to take charge.

 

As for who the first 3 companions would be... Hm, definitely Cassandra since she's there from the start, maybe Varric since Cass had been travelling with him so he'll either already be in the area, or she'd ask us to recruit him because by that point she trusts him enough to be of use within the Inquisition. Third one... Maybe Solas due to the fade rift/magic hand thing? Possibly even Sera if Leliana has heard of her, which she likely has being that they're both notorious rogues.


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I'm pro-mage in DAO, pro-templar in DA2.