My theory is that the Divine knew something bad would likely happen and purposely kept them away from the peace gathering to ensure that her "plan B" (the Inquisition) would thrive should the worst happen.
I now want a scene like this to happen at the peace meeting.
Just picture M as the Divine and James Bond as Cassandra/Leliana 
I thought the imprisonment and locked things in Asunder happened because of the events of Kirkwall, which made the templars act harsher in every Circle.
In Kirwkall the templars were harsher already, but it was stated before DA2's release as well.
They'd been cracking down for years, Anders says as much in DA:A. I guess we'll find out soon enough!
I didn't recall they stated we won't be for a good chunk of time, interesting.I know they said that we wouldn't be the Inquisitor immediately and that for a good chunk of time we'd be basically running around after Cassandra and the advisors until the point when for whatever reason they decide to make us the Inquisitor, by which time we'd be ready to take charge.
As for who the first 3 companions would be... Hm, definitely Cassandra since she's there from the start, maybe Varric since Cass had been travelling with him so he'll either already be in the area, or she'd ask us to recruit him because by that point she trusts him enough to be of use within the Inquisition. Third one... Maybe Solas due to the fade rift/magic hand thing? Possibly even Sera if Leliana has heard of her, which she likely has being that they're both notorious rogues.
I now want a scene like this to happen at the peace meeting.
*Snip*
Just picture M as the Divine and James Bond as Cassandra/Leliana
Funnily enough, whenever I think of the Divine I've always imagined her to look and sound/be voiced by Dame Judi Dench... which is daft because the Divine has a French accent, LOL! But yeah, just like that... except with explosions, magic and the Divine's death.
... I bet she totally stares down her killer/the Fade breach exactly like that. Badass old lady! 
They'd been cracking down for years, Anders says as much in DA:A. I guess we'll find out soon enough!
I didn't recall they stated we won't be for a good chunk of time, interesting.
I think we'll recruit Sera in the Exalted plains, due to how she was introduced in the E3 trailer in the region.
I'm trying to remember what article it was in, I think it was another of Cameron Lee's but don't quote me on that.
I'm not sure to agree with Anders. He was in a Circle were he escaped a lot of times and was never killed or tranquilized. In a harsher then average Circle he'd have been killed or tranquilized.
I always wondered why he didn't just escape to Tervinter, problem solved!
I guess he was never able to escape Fast enough to leave Ferelden. Or maybe he was enjoying his freedom too muchI always wondered why he didn't just escape to Tervinter, problem solved!
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I guess he was never able to escape Fast enough to leave Ferelden. Or maybe he was enjoying his freedom too much
I always found it hilarious that he wanted mage freedom, was willing to blow up a Chantry for it, but was dead against blood magic when the mages using it had often turned to it as a last resort to protect themselves from Templars, LOL!
He's an Andrastian. He does agree on the Chantry/Andraste's teaching on blood magic. He just doesn't agree with the Chantry's interpretation of Andraste's words on mages.I always found it hilarious that he wanted mage freedom, was willing to blow up a Chantry for it, but was dead against blood magic when the mages using it had often turned to it as a last resort to protect themselves from Templars, LOL!
Though to be honest I seem to interpret the early part being in Haven differently from most people. I don't think we'll be in Haven that long. I think it'll be like this: prologue-destruction-imprisonment-some plot to make is Discover our powers (Solas?) and be put in charge-Haven/Skyhold acquirement plot-rest of the game.
I've been kind of interpreting the Haven portion as a "starter" zone of sorts, with enough story to transition us from the blast to Skyhold in a logical way.
I always found it hilarious that he wanted mage freedom, was willing to blow up a Chantry for it, but was dead against blood magic when the mages using it had often turned to it as a last resort to protect themselves from Templars, LOL!
You need to remember that he's religious himself, been all his life. And he agrees with the most of chantry's teachings to boot.
I've been kind of interpreting the Haven portion as a "starter" zone of sorts, with enough story to transition us from the blast to Skyhold in a logical way.
Kinda like Ostagar and Lothering in Origins and Lothering and the Gallows in 2?
Yeah, it's getting to be a staple of the series now.
Ladies would you give me an opinion on an idea I had? I'm writing a Fic for the 3000 page...
We see in one of the trailers that we survive the blast at the beginning by touching the hand of a glowing green woman in the Fade (that's how we get the glowing green hand). Since the Peace conference was at the site of Andrastes Ashes the obvious answer would be that the woman was Andraste...
However we are told by the devs that the new demons unleashed on Thedas are Despair demons, the strongest of all demonkind. Thinking in terms of the more powerful good Spirits of the Fade and what they can achieve, do we in fact touch the hand of Hope instead? Then get sent back like Anders/Wynne did. In other words could we actually be possessed by a spirit ourselves?
How do you think Cullen would react to the idea? The will of the Maker or abomination...
I'm not sure to agree with Anders. He was in a Circle were he escaped a lot of times and was never killed or tranquilized. In a harsher then average Circle he'd have been killed or tranquilized.
I don't know that Kinloch Hold was harsher than other Circles at THAT time, but Wynne also mentions that she spent a lot of her time away from the Tower when she was younger and it's mentioned repeatedly in DAO that mages aren't forbidden to marry non-mages, which suggests it used to be no big thing for mages to be outside the Tower. I think the changes in the Circles were over time, with variation between the different ones. Despite Anders's escapes, remember if a mage apprentice goes to Irving and cooperates completely with catching Jowan and Lily, Greagor STILL wants to punish (kill, imprison, or make tranquil) the apprentice who sided with their authority. So it's hard to say it isn't a harsh Circle.
Edited for lousy grammar...
Ladies would you give me an opinion on an idea I had? I'm writing a Fic for the 3000 page...
We see in one of the trailers that we survive the blast at the beginning by touching the hand of a glowing green woman in the Fade (that's how we get the glowing green hand). Since the Peace conference was at the site of Andrastes Ashes the obvious answer would be that the woman was Andraste...
However we are told by the devs that the new demons unleashed on Thedas are Despair demons, the strongest of all demonkind. Thinking in terms of the more powerful good Spirits of the Fade and what they can achieve, do we in fact touch the hand of Hope instead? Then get sent back like Anders/Wynne did. In other words could we actually be possessed by a spirit ourselves?
How do you think Cullen would react to the idea? The will of the Maker or abomination...
I like the idea of the spirit being hope. If the Inquisitor is posessed, it's the weirdest manifestation of it yet, with the glowing green hand and all. I'm sure some people (NPCs, that is) will believe that though.
Judy Dench is perfection.I now want a scene like this to happen at the peace meeting.
*snip*
Just picture M as the Divine and James Bond as Cassandra/Leliana
Judy Dench is perfection.
It's Dame Judy Dench! And don't you forget it!
But yes, she is perfection. 
Lol, Tevinter probably wouldn't accept a White Chantry mage who was walking around with such a high powered spirit, especially once Justice had become vengeance. They'd either kill him on sight or not even let him in.I always wondered why he didn't just escape to Tervinter, problem solved!
We see in one of the trailers that we survive the blast at the beginning by touching the hand of a glowing green woman in the Fade (that's how we get the glowing green hand). Since the Peace conference was at the site of Andrastes Ashes the obvious answer would be that the woman was Andraste...
However we are told by the devs that the new demons unleashed on Thedas are Despair demons, the strongest of all demonkind. Thinking in terms of the more powerful good Spirits of the Fade and what they can achieve, do we in fact touch the hand of Hope instead? Then get sent back like Anders/Wynne did. In other words could we actually be possessed by a spirit ourselves?
How do you think Cullen would react to the idea? The will of the Maker or abomination...
Actually, the trailer implies that's how we survive the blast and get the glowy hand, but has that been confirmed? I seem to recall one of the devs saying something about there being things in that trailer that were going to lead people to jump to conclusions...
I think Cullen's reaction may depend mostly on what story we tell and how we behave. I'd like to think he'd have some healthy skepticism either way.
Ladies would you give me an opinion on an idea I had? I'm writing a Fic for the 3000 page...
We see in one of the trailers that we survive the blast at the beginning by touching the hand of a glowing green woman in the Fade (that's how we get the glowing green hand). Since the Peace conference was at the site of Andrastes Ashes the obvious answer would be that the woman was Andraste...
However we are told by the devs that the new demons unleashed on Thedas are Despair demons, the strongest of all demonkind. Thinking in terms of the more powerful good Spirits of the Fade and what they can achieve, do we in fact touch the hand of Hope instead? Then get sent back like Anders/Wynne did. In other words could we actually be possessed by a spirit ourselves?
How do you think Cullen would react to the idea? The will of the Maker or abomination...
Hold up. We don't know anything about the glowing green lady.
Also, we have not been told by the devs about Despair demons, other than their inclusion in this game. We do not know their ranking in the power hierarchy at all as well.
Do I think he'll question the Inquisitor's decision? Absolutely, but then I think he would probably question it if you sided with the Templars are were behaving too balls-to-the-wall hardlined as well.
If I recall what the devs have said correctly, we'll be questioned on the "why" of our decisions a lot when we get back to Skyhold, and our conversations about why we did or chose something will/should have repercussions with them, both approval & romance-wise. So I think he will question not only that decision but others, but it will be our reasons that will cause him to like or dislike the decision we made. In regards to this particular choice, he may even be leaning pro-mage and get more riled if you choose the templar side.
I really like that the "why" will come into play with our companions, because we hardly ever got to explain our reasoning behind making certain decisions.. we just did or said something and our companions reacted to that. I'm sure there will instances of that as well but I do like that we'll be able to say, "Hey, I sided with the mages but kept *some* oversight for them because they could actually grow and flourish if they weren't kept under a boot heel all the time," or even, "I didn't really care who I sided with, I just want that situation over with, I'm sick of hearing about it!"
Being questioned about our motivations back at Skyhold also lessened a bit of my apprehension in regards to advisor romances - they'll still be in the thick of things, asking about your latest quests/missions when you get back, so there will be many chances to speak with them and build relationships.
Mages were still allowed to be outside in Ferelden during DAAWynne's friend was outside of the Circle in DAA. I recall that Karl himself said Kirkwall was far worse then Ferelden in a letter, but I'm not sure.I don't know that Kinloch Hold was harsher than other Circles at THAT time, but Wynne also mentions that she spent a lot of her time away from the Tower when she was younger and it's mentioned repeatedly in DAO that mages aren't forbidden to marry non-mages, which suggests it used to be no big thing for mages to be outside the Tower. I think the changes in the Circles were over time, with variation between the different ones. Despite Anders's escapes, remember if a mage apprentice goes to Irving and cooperates completely with catching Jowan and Lily, Greagor STILL wants to punish (kill, imprison, or make tranquil) the apprentice who sided with their authority. So it's hard to say it isn't a harsh Circle.
Edited for lousy grammar...
Actually, the trailer implies that's how we survive the blast and get the glowy hand, but has that been confirmed? I seem to recall one of the devs saying something about there being things in that trailer that were going to lead people to jump to conclusions...
I think Cullen's reaction may depend mostly on what story we tell and how we behave. I'd like to think he'd have some healthy skepticism either way.
Yeah, they said not to take any of it as gospel since there wasn't any context to any of it.. and to definitely not jump to conclusions. Although we did see a (presumably our) hand reach out and nearly touch Glowy Lady, we don't know if that happened during the Breach or even if that was later in the game in a dream. Glowy Lady could be Andraste, or even the Divine who lingered long enough to wave to us after being blown to bits. We just don't know.
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How do you think Cullen would react to the idea? The will of the Maker or abomination...
It's a fic, so you have lots of leeway on interpretation 
If we had the spirit of Hope, I think he would initially freak out, and it would be up to us to convince him not to put us down once he found out.
Anyway, I didn't mean the Ferelden Circle was perfect, but that it was a lot better then Kirkwall.
No argument there! It would be hard for a circle to be much worse. I was actually addressing the idea that the circles had become more restricted and harsher over time (decades at least). I think there's enough evidence to support that idea, though obviously some circles were much worse than others.
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