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[Chrys]

I mean all templars are supposed to be celibate?

 

No, they don't take a chastity vow.

[Sifr]

No, they don't take a chastity vow.

 

I think probably varies from place to place, as in Ferelden they allowed Ser Wesley to get married to Aveline. It strikes me as probably being more of an unofficial thing, that they're supposed to be celibate and discouraged from seeking the temptations of the flesh, but in practice it's not something that is strongly enforced.

 

Alternatively, it might be a rule, but Templars wishing to get married have to appeal for special dispensation from a Grand Cleric or the Divine to do so?

[loominousfish]

I think probably varies from place to place, as in Ferelden they allowed Ser Wesley to get married to Aveline. It strikes me as probably being more of an unofficial thing, that they're supposed to be celibate and discouraged from seeking the temptations of the flesh, but in practice it's not something that is strongly enforced.

 

Alternatively, it might be a rule, but Templars wishing to get married have to appeal for special dispensation from a Grand Cleric or the Divine to do so?

 

Templars are not required to take a vow of chastity (that we know of at least, they might have a choice on that matter when they become anointed), and can get married. However, they can't get married to other Templars, and when they want to get married, they have to get a dispensation from a Grand Cleric or the Divine in order to do so. On that note, the person they marry has to be financially stable (so generally, they have to have a title or a way of fending for themselves), because a Templar would have to spend most of his or her time away from their family and wouldn't be able to contribute much to the household, so if their spouse is well-off it means that the Templar isn't leaving their family destitute. So while marriage isn't banned per say, it is sort of frowned upon and probably generally discouraged.

 

This is based off of the little that we know of (from the wiki), and some extrapolation on my part. 

[Ina]

why is Cullen sooooo popular?

 

just because he is the best-looking character in DA?

 

 

While 'best-looking character' is subjective, I think we can agree he's the most conventional looking male character and I'm sure that's part of the appeal. I feel he holds a soft spot for people who played the human/elf magi origin as a female character. I admit that his interactions with your would-be warden are memorable. The rest is probably just based on his character development through Origins to DA2 to DAI. Honestly, while Cullen would be the LI on my primary world state because I think it would be very interesting to see how it would play out with a mage, I don't see or really understand the massive appeal he has. Anyway I'm sure someone here will fill you in who actually knows what it is to be a major Cullen fan.

[john-in-france]

@ dantares83 and Ina.

 

I think you'll find peoples attraction to Cullen to be quite complicated, each Cullenite seeing different things in him. So no we are not just fangirls squeeing at a pretty face...

 

I can tell you why I find him interesting. His character arc is pretty impressive with continued growth through the series so far.

 

DAO: Shy Templar, attracted to Elf/Human Mage Origin, but knowing it to be wrong. Mage Origin character can troll Cullen something rotten, even asking him to be alone with them...he leaves. (I must say that if you look on youtube, you will often come across a mod where Cullen kisses the Mage Origin character...remember that this did not happen in game. There is also another mod shown on youtube where you can recruit him as a companion. Both mods are downloadable from Nexusmods)

Mage leaves to become Grey Warden.

Grey Warden returns to the Tower to find Uldred had taken over the Circle with blood magic. Cullen has been tortured for days by blood mages and demons, yet he has withstood the Temptation to give in. This results in an angry outburst about Mages...totally understandable at that time. If female Mage Grey Warden he also comments that they used his attraction for you against him.

 

DA2: Cullen Act 1 is still untrusting of mages and totally against blood mages. Hawke can help him see reason...

Act 2 Lots of blood mages showing the bad side of magic and lots of dodgy Templar. Cullen still believes in Meredith.

Act 3. Cullen begins to see that Merediths enforcement against Mages is extreme, thinking that she is going mad. At the end of the game if you side with the Templar he stands against Meredith to save the innocent mages asking for mercy, then again to stand with you when Meredith ambushes you at the end. Templar should protect Mages.

 

DAI: What we know so far. Cullen has seen the worst of both sides, and arguably the best of both sides. Where his character arc goes next I suspect depends on the ethics of our inquisitor.

 

So, what I get from that is a character with strong willpower, a high standard of ethics, he's not afraid to fight for what he believes in, and acts in a gentlemanly manner even if he doesn't agree with you (My mage Hawke loves trolling him).

 

I like his character, the looks are just icing.

[Kalyppso]

why is Cullen sooooo popular?
 
just because he is the best-looking character in DA?
 
btw, is Cullen a virgin/ever been in a relationship? I mean all templars are supposed to be celibate? Alistair was one and Cullen seem so awkarded around u if u were a female mage.
 
it would be funny to see how the female inqusitor is going to pursue him.

Omg. I went back and found a quote from May in response to this:

"Templars do not take vows of chastity." -- David Gaider
 
http://forum.bioware...-2#entry3697948

However, Cullen specifically? I seriously doubt he's had a serious relationship, and as he had a hard time talking to the er ... young ladies at the Blooming Rose, I doubt he's hired company either. Poor bloke... Not long now though. (:<

[john-in-france]

I personally do not want a virgin Cullen....urghhhh, awkward or shy is ok....but haven't we done the virgin male stereotype to death...Alistair and Fenris. He could have had a relationship...it's not all marriage or pros....young ladies of the Blooming Rose...cough.

[Kalyppso]

I personally do not want a virgin Cullen....urghhhh, awkward or shy is ok....but haven't we done the virgin male stereotype to death...Alistair and Fenris. He could have had a relationship...it's not all marriage or pros....young ladies of the Blooming Rose...cough.

I know. I was just offering my opinion. I actually wouldn't mind either way. It'd be neat though if he'd actually been with a few women, and like, no big deal over it. d: Or whatever. Maybe 3. More than 1 where he'd still be caught up in those specific memories, and less than 5 so he's not like ... questionable. d:

[R2s Muse]

I think probably varies from place to place, as in Ferelden they allowed Ser Wesley to get married to Aveline. It strikes me as probably being more of an unofficial thing, that they're supposed to be celibate and discouraged from seeking the temptations of the flesh, but in practice it's not something that is strongly enforced.
 
Alternatively, it might be a rule, but Templars wishing to get married have to appeal for special dispensation from a Grand Cleric or the Divine to do so?

DG has addressed this.

Templars do not take vows of chastity.
 
Chantry priests are considered "married" to the Maker-- though it's not an actual marriage, just a spiritual one-- and thus are indeed celibate.
 
For templars, the situation is not quite the same. Their duties require them to be dedicated to their duties-- they're going to live in a Circle of Magi (which does not have room for spouses and families) or a chantry, or otherwise be pre-occupied. Marriage is impractical, and the Chantry thus discourages such marriages as having dependants introduces complications that templars can do without (as well as a potential means of leverage).
 
That said, the Chantry does occasionally give permission for templars to marry, provided the spouse has their own means of support. This is often the case when the spouse owns land or a title. Even so, considering the spouse wouldn't be able to see the templar often, it's not going to happen frequently. Before anyone asks, the Chantry also discourages templars from marrying each other even more so-- that's considered fraternization within the ranks (the templars are run as a military order, remember, and possess the same discipline).

edit: LOL Ninja'd by Mademon quoting me quoting David Gaider. How meta. Ironically, we also just talked about this a few days back. Sounds like a question for that FAQ...   

[Ina]

DAI: What we know so far. Cullen has seen the worst of both sides, and arguably the best of both sides. Where his character arc goes next I suspect depends on the ethics of our inquisitor.

 

So, what I get from that is a character with strong willpower, a high standard of ethics, he's not afraid to fight for what he believes in, and acts in a gentlemanly manner even if he doesn't agree with you (My mage Hawke loves trolling him).

 

 

 

Thanks that explains a lot!

 

My first couple playthrough of Origins were as a non-mage and Cullen didn't leave a good impression on me at all. The epilogue just made it worse and I put him down on my do-not-like-much list. Then I saw him in DA2 and remained very untrusting of him, but by the end my opinion of him improved as I saw a newer side to him. After that I went back and played the magi origin as a female human who I now consider as my 'main warden' and I got to see yet another side of him. The way he reacted in Origins during the circle quest made much more sense now that I was invested in the circle background. After which, I had a newfound respect for his character and the development he had gone through. He wasn't just a random evil templar as depicted in the epilogue and it is now what I like about him.

 

I won't call myself his fangirl because there are other characters in the DA universe I'm far more invested in, but I understand now it's not so much different from my own view of him. It's only that major Cullen fans just like and appreciate these aspects about him a lot more. Actually I never thought it was all just superficial about his looks alone (I've been a fangirl of many things after all and I understand it's rarely so simple), but I don't know why I expected the reasons to be something mysteriously different lol.

[Asperath]

I never played a mage warden either so my interest is purely from him in DA2. I love his progression from DAO and through out DA2 but even with that my fangirling didn't quite develop until after my second PT (too busy with Fenris to notice him)

 

I know. I was just offering my opinion. I actually wouldn't mind either way. It'd be neat though if he'd actually been with a few women, and like, no big deal over it. d: Or whatever. Maybe 3. More than 1 where he'd still be caught up in those specific memories, and less than 5 so he's not like ... questionable. d:

While I find some attraction in him being a virgin (for whatever reasons) I doubt he's a virgin. At some point he was a hormonal teenager and then a recruit, I bet a number of recruits got a bit frisky during training etc I don't see him paying for sex however.

I have read a few fanfics that bring up the possibility of him having a mutually beneficial arrangement with a woman of particular standing and discretely having nighttime visitations

[R2s Muse]

why is Cullen sooooo popular?

 

just because he is the best-looking character in DA?

 

btw, is Cullen a virgin/ever been in a relationship? I mean all templars are supposed to be celibate? Alistair was one and Cullen seem so awkarded around u if u were a female mage.

 

it would be funny to see how the female inqusitor is going to pursue him.

This is a bit of an awkward question, you must admit? Some folks will like him, and some won't. If you don't, that's cool. There are perhaps as many reasons as there are Cullen fans, just as it would be for the fans of any character or thing. The short answer for most fans is that he's interesting. Don't think they need more of a reason than that, whether or not they think he's attractive (which I do; smokin'). Nor should they really need to justify liking something. They just do. 

 

As to the celibacy question, you can see my previous post. Templars do not take vows of chastity, but their job makes lasting relationships challenging. Of course, Cullen is no longer a Templar in DA:I, which adds new layers to his duty and yet strips others away. It should be interesting to see how he  has evolved in this way and how it changes him professionally and personally. 

[LolaLei]

Sounds like a troll to me.

[R2s Muse]

Thanks that explains a lot!

 

My first couple playthrough of Origins were as a non-mage and Cullen didn't leave a good impression on me at all. The epilogue just made it worse and I put him down on my do-not-like-much list. Then I saw him in DA2 and remained very untrusting of him, but by the end my opinion of him improved as I saw a newer side to him. After that I went back and played the magi origin as a female human who I now consider as my 'main warden' and I got to see yet another side of him. The way he reacted in Origins during the circle quest made much more sense now that I was invested in the circle background. After which, I had a newfound respect for his character and the development he had gone through. He wasn't just a random evil templar as depicted in the epilogue and it is now what I like about him.

 

I won't call myself his fangirl because there are other characters in the DA universe I'm far more invested in, but I understand now it's not so much different from my own view of him. It's only that major Cullen fans just like and appreciate these aspects about him a lot more. Actually I never thought it was all just superficial about his looks alone (I've been a fangirl of many things after all and I understand it's rarely so simple), but I don't know why I expected the reasons to be something mysteriously different lol.

This is really insightful, and thanks for sharing! Indeed, fandom seems an odd and mysterious thing, and  yet it's just folks liking stuff. One cool thing about Cullen is that we've also just barely scratched the surface of his character. For all that we've seen in the past two games, we still know very little about him as an individual. Many are hoping we'll learn more and how that may influence the way he's reacted to things in the past.

[R2s Muse]

I never played a mage warden either so my interest is purely from him in DA2. I love his progression from DAO and through out DA2 but even with that my fangirling didn't quite develop until after my second PT (too busy with Fenris to notice him)

 

While I find some attraction in him being a virgin (for whatever reasons) I doubt he's a virgin. At some point he was a hormonal teenager and then a recruit, I bet a number of recruits got a bit frisky during training etc I don't see him paying for sex however.

I have read a few fanfics that bring up the possibility of him having a mutually beneficial arrangement with a woman of particular standing and discretely having nighttime visitations

LOL Pretty much this. I also became  fan during DA2.  I don't personally have any interest, at all, in him  being a virgin, but I also doubt he would be for the reasons you mentioned. I mean...  he's in his thirties at this point and has not reason that we know of to abstain. Aaaaand, I've also written a fanfic on exactly that type of relationship for him. LOL

 

Get out of my head, Asperath!

[Asperath]

LOL Pretty much this. I also became  fan during DA2.  I don't personally have any interest, at all, in him  being a virgin, but I also doubt he would be for the reasons you mentioned. I mean...  he's in his thirties at this point and has not reason that we know of to abstain. Aaaaand, I've also written a fanfic on exactly that type of relationship for him. LOL

 

Get out of my head, Asperath!

I'm a bit possessive and I can be a lil green eyed monster at times, only reason why I would find him a virgin attractive (just didn't want to admit it )

I think that type of relationship (an arrangement), truly is the most likely than anything else at least while he's been a Knight-Captain... AND considering I have read all your fanfic you have on AO3 etc... well now you know where I get my ideas from!!

 

I'll tell ya what, you send more inspiration for my dreams and I'll get out of your head!!

[wiccame]

I think he is a virgin. He doesn't  strike me as someone who would socialise much in any free time he has. I picture him maybe reading or polishing his armour or something when he had time off. I think he'd have to have a meaningful relationship to have sex and I just don't think he would have found the time. Saying that I don't think he would still be that shy awkward recruit he was back in origins, he has matured and I think he will be fine in the romance department. Might get a tiny bit flustered at first but that could be fun.

[alwayshungry]

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[Iceyone]

I would love Cullen and the other companions to wander about Skyhold although, finding him in the mess hall with others is one thing, if I come home from a hard day fighting and find him in Lelianas bedroom, there is going to be trouble with a capital T and explanations required, pronto

 

My interest in Cullen didn't really take off until after my first pt of DA2, first pt I hardly interacted with him atall. When I played again, I was much more thorough in clicking on npcs and seeing what they had to say. My real appreciation of his character arose after I sided with the templars for the first time, the extra dialogue in itself added a huge amount of insight for me. It's then that I see him questioning himself and Meredith and I respected him for it.

I have played the mage origin in DAO only, never actually played through the game as a mage but I wanted to explore his motivations and ideals a little more and I'm really glad I did.

In my opinion, he is growing into a really deep and interesting companion, with faults and issues but it all adds to him and makes him seem kind of real, I see only strength and determination in him now, strong willed but I hope that he has become a well balanced and compassionate character after everything he has experienced.

 

I have no issue regards him being a virgin or not, I expect him not to be although I have a hard time imagining a scenario for Cullen where sex has been a priority. I don't see him as using the brothels, I don't know why but it just doesn't seem like the kind of thing he would do,  but I selfishly, don't really want him to have had a meaningful, long-term relationship, it won't be too bad if he is well over it I suppose but I really don't want any baggage of that sort coming into our relationship. I could live with beleiving in a few trists in store cupboards (just!)

[Panda]

why is Cullen sooooo popular?

 

just because he is the best-looking character in DA?

 

btw, is Cullen a virgin/ever been in a relationship? I mean all templars are supposed to be celibate? Alistair was one and Cullen seem so awkarded around u if u were a female mage.

 

it would be funny to see how the female inqusitor is going to pursue him.

 

I think it's combination and in the end people like him for different reasons. I started to like him in DA2 cause I felt he was rather rational person in that crazy city and was friends with my Hawke. I liked to talk and debate him as well so that's my reason. I just like him as character.

 

Templars aren't in celibate, it's only chantry-sisters and -brothers who are. Some templars are requlars in the brothels. Cullen might or might not be virgin, I don't think we have info of his sex nor his personal life at the moment.

[Asperath]

*snip*

 

I have no issue regards him being a virgin or not, I expect him not to be although I have a hard time imagining a scenario for Cullen where sex has been a priority. I don't see him as using the brothels, I don't know why but it just doesn't seem like the kind of thing he would do,  but I selfishly, don't really want him to have had a meaningful, long-term relationship, it won't be too bad if he is well over it I suppose but I really don't want any baggage of that sort coming into our relationship. I could live with beleiving in a few trists in store cupboards (just!)

 

I like I don't think he would of had the time for a deep and meaningful relationship while in the Order to be honest. He seemed to take his duty way too seriously and I believe the Order was his entire life, eat, sleep, poop the Order kinda thing.

[morie91]

Dear sweet Neptune!

 

 

I also thought it would be very romantic if he put his cloak around the Inquisitor during a scene because he doesn't want them to get cold   seems like something he would do.

 

DO YOU READ MY MIND? because that's how you read my mind!

i did the first of my cullen artworks with this "story" in my mind (:

 

beware, naked people ;p

Spoiler

http://moriesartwork...ost/95140880543

[wiccame]

DO YOU READ MY MIND? because that's how you read my mind!

i did the first of my cullen artworks with this "story" in my mind (:

 

beware, naked people ;p

Spoiler

http://moriesartwork...ost/95140880543

I actually have a scene in my head of Cullen having been away from the keep for a few days returning late and finding the inquisitor curled up on his bed and him laying his furs over her to keep her warm before he climbs in behind her and spoons her    

[morie91]

I actually have a scene in my head of Cullen having been away from the keep for a few days returning late and finding the inquisitor curled up on his bed and him laying his furs over her to keep her warm before he climbs in behind her and spoons her    

 

YUUUSSSSS! i have few beautiful headcanons myself for my quizzie/cullen romance with this pauldrons playing the main part ;u; apart from being personally attracted to them

[meanieweenie]

I wonder if any of the other companions will tease him about the fur. It'd be hilarious if say Cole takes to hiding it or maybe IB glues the equivalent of google eyes on it. Viv will be all "Ew. So Ferelden." Then Cullen gets defensive... "It's warm! Leave me alone!"   *runs off crying and slams his bedroom door*