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I wonder if any of the other companions will tease him about the fur. It'd be hilarious if say Cole takes to hiding it or maybe IB glues the equivalent of google eyes on it. Viv will be all "Ew. So Ferelden." Then Cullen gets defensive... "It's warm! Leave me alone!"   *runs off crying and slams his bedroom door*  :lol:

lo, or Leliana stealing them one night when he's asleep and washing them. He wakes up, sees them hanging out to dry and lays into Leliana cause they were his lucky pauldrons and she washed the luck out of them. 'But, but they were stinky!'. He rips them off the line and gives her an evil glare as he brushes them down.


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So just noticed something interesting Cullen says in Act 2 when explaining to Hawke how the Order no longer works with outsiders anymore after the Wilmod thing. 

 

courtesy of Galagraphia

 

"You're kind to offer, but after what happened with Tarohne three years ago, the knight-commander has closed ranks. Our own men undergo weekly questioning, and she's eliminated all work with outsiders."  

 

Weekly questioning?? Man. To find out if they're possessed by abominations themselves??


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So just noticed something interesting Cullen says in Act 2 when explaining to Hawke how the Order no longer works with outsiders anymore after the Wilmod thing. 

 

*snip*

courtesy of Galagraphia

 

"You're kind to offer, but after what happened with Tarohne three years ago, the knight-commander has closed ranks. Our own men undergo weekly questioning, and she's eliminated all work with outsiders."  

 

Weekly questioning?? Man. To find out if they're possessed by abominations themselves??

I remember this line because I remember thinking how terribly buckled down things were getting. The woman was paranoid to begin with. 


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The longevity of Cullen as a character, and the popularity of his VA don't hurt at all. Not all of the Cullenites are primarily interested in Cullen because he's good looking or even in him as a LI. (Blackwall is much more my own type, to the point I was worried that he'd remind me too much of my ex until we heard his voice and saw his eyes.) I think a couple of others have described Cullen's character evolution better than I could. The fact he's a LI is just icing on the cake, especially since his personality suggests that his will be a romantic one which I think will appeal to a lot of people. As for his experience, is it really important, as long as he's happy with it?


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The fact he's a LI is just icing on the cake, especially since his personality suggests that his will be a romantic one which I think will appeal to a lot of people. 

 

Yes, I think so too, but then again I've been wrong about Cullen before. I mean I was just really shocked to find out Cullen was one of those 'extra LIs' cos I'd have bet his popularity would have made Bioware consider him as a romance in the beginning stages of LI development. Just goes to show how little I understand about how things are decided in the development room. 


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Yes, I think so too, but then again I've been wrong about Cullen before. I mean I was just really shocked to find out Cullen was one of those 'extra LIs' cos I'd have bet his popularity would have made Bioware consider him as a romance in the beginning stages of LI development. Just goes to show how little I understand about how things are decided in the development room. 

Very true. But I do think the writers have said that sometimes things just grow out of what the writers think will fit a character's development, and it's possible his writer didn't get a sense of a really good potential romance arc for him until after the originals were set. I think I remember something about her being new, and she had to take over an existing character with his own history and personality. That's just my guess, anyway.



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The longevity of Cullen as a character, and the popularity of his VA don't hurt at all. Not all of the Cullenites are primarily interested in Cullen because he's good looking or even in him as a LI. (Blackwall is much more my own type, to the point I was worried that he'd remind me too much of my ex until we heard his voice and saw his eyes.) I think a couple of others have described Cullen's character evolution better than I could. The fact he's a LI is just icing on the cake, especially since his personality suggests that his will be a romantic one which I think will appeal to a lot of people. As for his experience, is it really important, as long as he's happy with it?

Well,this has been discussed plenty of times  both in here and on the outside,but that's a nice way to put nevertheless!



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DAI: What we know so far. Cullen has seen the worst of both sides, and arguably the best of both sides. Where his character arc goes next I suspect depends on the ethics of our inquisitor.

 

So, what I get from that is a character with strong willpower, a high standard of ethics, he's not afraid to fight for what he believes in, and acts in a gentlemanly manner even if he doesn't agree with you (My mage Hawke loves trolling him).

 

I like his character, the looks are just icing. :wub:

 

 

I know lots of people have already chimed in, but I would agree with this.  I wasn't a fan since the mage origin, personally - I played a mage maybe 3rd or 4th, and even then I managed to not quite get that he was seriously crushing on her until about half-way through the discussion when he's trapped by Uldred.  By then, I had pretty much pegged him as that poor templar who was tortured to the edge of sanity.  The events with the mage origin just made it more personal for her.

 

I didn't play far enough in DA2 to talk much with him, either.  

 

So mostly, once I heard that DA:I was about to release and decided to do some research, one of the primary things I was interested in was learning about the major characters' backgrounds.  After reading wiki entries and watching youtube videos of his scenes from DA2, I got a lot more interested in the character himself.  He's gone through a lot of major events, and personally experienced both ends of the spectrum in the templar-mage conflict.  He has also proven himself to be strong-willed, principled (even when I would have disagreed with his stance), and courteous.  These are traits I admire in people in general.  The only time he really seemed to go off the deep end was after being tortured for days and perhaps weeks (or months - it can take me a while in my play throughs to get to the Circle Tower - heh).

 

To be honest, I didn't think the pictures of him on the site were very attractive at the time I started to poke around, and did about the same amount of research as I did for Varric and Cassandra (as there were similar amounts of info out there for them).  It's only after I did this research that I thought he was pretty attractive - though admittedly, they also had new screenshots that were more flattering so that might have had something to do with it. 

 

As to virginity, a lot of other people have covered it sufficiently, and I don't have anything to add aside from I agree it's unlikely, but it wouldn't bother me either way.



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So just noticed something interesting Cullen says in Act 2 when explaining to Hawke how the Order no longer works with outsiders anymore after the Wilmod thing. 

 

*snip*

courtesy of Galagraphia

 

"You're kind to offer, but after what happened with Tarohne three years ago, the knight-commander has closed ranks. Our own men undergo weekly questioning, and she's eliminated all work with outsiders."  

 

Weekly questioning?? Man. To find out if they're possessed by abominations themselves??

 

Ooh interesting!I think Meredith at this point is at the early stages of corruption by the statue so it makes sense that she's becoming increasingly paranoid.
Also the way Cullen says "I almost wonder if something happened" sounds like foreshadowing.



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I know lots of people have already chimed in, but I would agree with this.  I wasn't a fan since the mage origin, personally - I played a mage maybe 3rd or 4th, and even then I managed to not quite get that he was seriously crushing on her until about half-way through the discussion when he's trapped by Uldred.  By then, I had pretty much pegged him as that poor templar who was tortured to the edge of sanity.  The events with the mage origin just made it more personal for her.

 

I didn't play far enough in DA2 to talk much with him, either.  

 

So mostly, once I heard that DA:I was about to release and decided to do some research, one of the primary things I was interested in was learning about the major characters' backgrounds.  After reading wiki entries and watching youtube videos of his scenes from DA2, I got a lot more interested in the character himself.  He's gone through a lot of major events, and personally experienced both ends of the spectrum in the templar-mage conflict.  He has also proven himself to be strong-willed, principled (even when I would have disagreed with his stance), and courteous.  These are traits I admire in people in general.  The only time he really seemed to go off the deep end was after being tortured for days and perhaps weeks (or months - it can take me a while in my play throughs to get to the Circle Tower - heh).

 

To be honest, I didn't think the pictures of him on the site were very attractive at the time I started to poke around, and did about the same amount of research as I did for Varric and Cassandra (as there were similar amounts of info out there for them).  It's only after I did this research that I thought he was pretty attractive - though admittedly, they also had new screenshots that were more flattering so that might have had something to do with it. 

 

As to virginity, a lot of other people have covered it sufficiently, and I don't have anything to add aside from I agree it's unlikely, but it wouldn't bother me either way.

Personally,I'd describe Cullen as a "hidden gem".He's one of these characters that you have to do some research or follow the plot thoroughly to notice the evolution of his character arc.Something that initially made him less approachable, to the  more "casual" players,who were more likely to be turned off by his "Templar" ideals.


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Yes, I think so too, but then again I've been wrong about Cullen before. I mean I was just really shocked to find out Cullen was one of those 'extra LIs' cos I'd have bet his popularity would have made Bioware consider him as a romance in the beginning stages of LI development. Just goes to show how little I understand about how things are decided in the development room. 

The devs have also stressed from the beginning that he would only be included if the story warranted it, not necessarily because the fans wanted it. So I'd like to think that we can all rest assured that that must be the case... since his romance wasn't at the top of their priority list it seems. LOL



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Personally,I'd describe Cullen as a "hidden gem".He's one of these characters that you have to do some research or follow the plot thoroughly to notice the evolution of his character arc.Something that initially made him less approachable, to the  more "casual" players,who were more likely to be turned off by his "Templar" ideals.

It also doesn't help that his most interesting character insights in DA2 show up only in a pro-templar playthrough, which tends to be the path less followed on average. 

 

...and now I only hear Jafar saying, "...this diamond in the rough." LOL 



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Ooh interesting!I think Meredith at this point is at the early stages of corruption by the statue so it makes sense that she's becoming increasingly paranoid.
Also the way Cullen says "I almost wonder if something happened" sounds like foreshadowing.

Agree. But just think of it... weekly interrogations for a whole THREE years? Man. Being a templar in the Gallows must suck as well. 


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The devs have also stressed from the beginning that he would only be included if the story warranted it, not necessarily because the fans wanted it. So I'd like to think that we can all rest assured that that must be the case... since his romance wasn't at the top of their priority list it seems. LOL

 

Oh I wasn't aware they had said this, good to know. I wasn't following the news during the earlier stages of development so I kinda just assumed if they wanted to make a romance they might go for a character that has a lot of fans already. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, Varric is also popular but that didn't stop them from not making him an LI. Fans perceptions can be so skewed sometimes because we make assumptions what is important to us is also important to them.



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Seeing the multiple comments about Cullen  as LI being "icing on the cake" makes me appreciate this one even more... :lol:


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Ooh interesting!I think Meredith at this point is at the early stages of corruption by the statue so it makes sense that she's becoming increasingly paranoid.
Also the way Cullen says "I almost wonder if something happened" sounds like foreshadowing.

 

 

Agreed.  Another thing I found interesting when I watched this during my research was that Cullen knew Anders was an apostate...and did nothing.  Due to his respect for Hawke?



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Oh I wasn't aware they had said this, good to know. I wasn't following the news during the earlier stages of development so I kinda just assumed if they wanted to make a romance they might go for a character that has a lot of fans already. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, Varric is also popular but that didn't stop them from not making him an LI. Fans perceptions can be so skewed sometimes because we make assumptions what is important to us is also important to them.

Yeah, it's something they stressed A LOT in the beginning, back when his pic leaked out and the Cullen fans were getting a lot of flak (some things never change... LOL). It's probably also worth mentioning that he has a lot of haters as well, so I don't think he'd be a slam dunk in any event. 


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@ LadyShayna, well he must have known Anders at Kinloch Hold, most likely as the troublesome Mage who ran away 9 times LOL. Not to mention that he is most likely still listed on the Grey Warden rolls...as a warden.



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@ LadyShayna, well he must have known Anders at Kinloch Hold, most likely as the troublesome Mage who ran away 9 times LOL. Not to mention that he is most likely still listed on the Grey Warden rolls...as a warden.

 

 

Ah, true.  The Warden thing makes much more sense than the Hawke thing.  Thanks!



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I was doing a bit of wiki research for a new fic and was surprised to discover who Justinia V was.

 

There is a lot of Chantry hate out there on the forums, so I'd never put this together before.

 

Justinia V was Mother Dorothea of Lothering DAO. So not only does she help your wardens, she most likely did the same for Malcolm Hawkes family, keep your head down and I'll turn a blind eye. I always liked her. If you check Leliana she also comes equipped with a locket - Seekers Circle, so she is already a Seeker at that time...interesting.


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I don't think she liked me very much. I think I offered to teach her son how to use a sword or slay a dragon or something like that.

 

I mean...he had to learn sometime. 

 

I noticed that when she was saying her little prayer, she quite specifically makes it obvious that a 'sister' is not included in it.



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I was doing a bit of wiki research for a new fic and was surprised to discover who Justinia V was.

 

There is a lot of Chantry hate out there on the forums, so I'd never put this together before.

 

Justinia V was Mother Dorothea of Lothering DAO. So not only does she help your wardens, she most likely did the same for Malcolm Hawkes family, keep your head down and I'll turn a blind eye. I always liked her. If you check Leliana she also comes equipped with a locket - Seekers Circle, so she is already a Seeker at that time...interesting.

She wasn't the mother in Lothering. She was the one who helped Leliana in Leliana's song.


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Are we positive that Mother Dorothea is not the same person? 100% positive?

 

I just looked on the wiki....the pictures a VERY similar.



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Despite that, she seems interesting. I can't help but with DA:I nearing, I keep investigating the lore. Especially the chantry and the fade.



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Are we positive that Mother Dorothea is not the same person? 100% positive?
 
I just looked on the wiki....the pictures a VERY similar.


The Lothering Revered Mother was Ferelden.
http://dragonage.wik.../Revered_Mother

Dorothea was Orlesian.
http://dragonage.wik...wiki/Justinia_V
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