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[morie91]

Depends on what your beliefs are. I think as long as you're not advocating radical extremes like unconditional freedom for all mages and death to all Templars, Cullen's not likely to turn on you. I don't think he'll necessarily agree with more Libertarian points of view or ever take a "pro-mage" stance, as it were, regardless of his relationship with the Inquisitor, but he is looking for a middle ground like most of the Chantry people involved in the Inquisition. He would at least respect your position, if not completely share the same beliefs. This is not necessarily a bad thing, though, couples can sometimes disagree on this or that principle and still have a healthy and caring relationship.

 

Now, if your leaning was more towards full unchecked liberation of all mages, return to a magocracy of power to the powerful, mages taking the reins over all Thedas, etc; that Cullen wouldn't take too well. But I honestly don't think we'll even have the option to position ourselves like this, as Mage Rights Above All Else is not really the theme or focus of this game; the mage/templar conflict is at this point more of a subplot/sidequest that leads to the main plot, the actual reason why we're Inquisitioning.

 

nononono! ofc i'm not speaking about extremities. i, in life, try to always stay neutral, and find a resolution that will be the least harmful for both sides. and so i want to transfer this trait of mine to moirin (well, i'm going to make a roleplay self-insert after all ;p)

playing through both of the games, i've met good and bad mages and templars. just like in real life, we meet individual people, who may spoil our views about particular group they represent.

also for the sake of staying true to the logic of the headcanon of my quizzie, she would rather care more about people similar to her, in this case - mages (:

[Hellion Rex]

Exactly. I dare say he'll soften up a little, but I don't think he's ever gonna be pro-mage... nowt stopping him being pro-mage Inquisitor though, LOL!

I don't think he'll ever be one either. But certainly wouldn't stop a romance with a person who is pro Circle or pro mage.

[SmilesJA]

nononono! ofc i'm not speaking about extremities. i, in life, try to always stay neutral, and find a resolution that will be the least harmful for both sides. and so i want to transfer this trait of mine to moirin (well, i'm going to make a roleplay self-insert after all ;p)

playing through both of the games, i've met good and bad mages and templars. just like in real life, we meet individual people, who may spoil our views about particular group they represent.

also for the sake of staying true to the logic of the headcanon of my quizzie, she would rather care more about people similar to her, in this case - mages (:

 

There can be no peace, you must choose!

[LolaLei]

I'm curious about why Cullen is worried about Liz Lehtone (producer at BioWare) or more specifically, why he's worried about her Inquisitor.

 

Could it be that he just worries in general because the Inquisitor works so hard? Is it just a natural reaction to seeing his beloved risking her life everyday? Or is it something more? Perhaps the stress starts to get to the Inquisitor either mentally, emotionally, or physically (like it did with Shepard)? Maybe it's that magic wound on her hand causing her health problems? Or perhaps she's at a phase in the game where something really bad happened and Cullen is concerned that the Inquisitor is bottling it up or suffering in some way?

[BioFan (Official)]

I'm curious about why Cullen is worried about Liz Lehtone (producer at BioWare) or more specifically, why he's worried about her Inquisitor.

 

Could it be that he just worries in general because the Inquisitor works so hard? Is it just a natural reaction to seeing his beloved risking her life everyday? Or is it something more? Perhaps the stress starts to get to the Inquisitor either mentally, emotionally, or physically (like it did with Shepard)? Maybe it's that magic wound on her hand causing her health problems? Or perhaps she's at a phase in the game where something really bad happened and Cullen is concerned that the Inquisitor is bottling it up or suffering in some way?

 

 

Well haven't some of the devs (Patrick Weekes I know has) been doing #AssQuisitor playthroughs? Maybe that's why?

[Sable Rhapsody]

So do you think our Quizzys will be having nightmares...I have the feeling that Cullen and Quizzy will end up meeting regularly in the middle of the night because neither of them can sleep well.

 

I think Solas might be my first Inquisitor's go-to person for nightmares  He seems like he'd have more practical solutions to the problem.

[LolaLei]

I don't think he'll ever be one either. But certainly wouldn't stop a romance with a person who is pro Circle or pro mage.

 

What I find interesting is that he'll actually romance a mage. Obviously that's down to the fact that the game doesn't have class restrictions/class-gating etc, but from a story standpoint they've obviously had him grow to a point where he's relaxed his beliefs to some extent (be it between games, or during DAI itself).

[LolaLei]

Well haven't some of the devs (Patrick Weekes I know has) been doing #AssQuisitor playthroughs? Maybe that's why?

 

Like, Liz might be doing an Assquisitor as well? 

[LolaLei]

I think Solas might be my first Inquisitor's go-to person for nightmares  He seems like he'd have more practical solutions to the problem.

 

LOL, I could imagine the Inquisitor having a nightmare about being chased by demons or something and then suddenly spotting Solas sulking around behind some bushes or something and then being like "... Wait, wait, hold up!" *nightmare demons stop chasing and look confused* "Solas?! What have I told you about invading my dreams?!"     

[Tishina]

Well haven't some of the devs (Patrick Weekes I know has) been doing #AssQuisitor playthroughs? Maybe that's why?

That's what I was wondering.

 

BTW, I love the new avatar.

[BioFan (Official)]

Like, Liz might be doing an Assquisitor as well? 

 

I think she might be. I can ask. 

[Sifr]

Wait, is the dev's Assquisitor their Renegade playthrough, or just an Inquisitor who enjoys twerking and listening to "Anaconda" on their ipod?

 

[alwayshungry]

Wait, is the dev's Assquisitor their Renegade playthrough, or just an Inquisitor who enjoys twerking and listening to "Anaconda" on their ipod?

 

Why not both???

[riverbanks]

Perhaps the stress starts to get to the Inquisitor either mentally, emotionally, or physically (like it did with Shepard)?

 

I want this. My absolute favorite part of the Shepard/Kaidan romance was the scene when Shepard wakes up after sexy times in ME3, nervous/stressed/scared to hell of the responsibility on her shoulders, and Kaidan is just... there for her. Just that little conversation, supporting Shep through her worst fears, faking courage until they make it... sigh.

 

I want this for Cullen. Being the savior of the world, Herald of Andraste, big hero of the day, is a huge weight and responsibility to put on one person, and our Inquisitor is bound to bend at some point. If Cullen can be there for her like that, worried about her physical and emotional state, yes, but also supporting her and trusting that she can make it... just knowing that the person you love is there to be ~the wind beneath your wings~ can go a long way.

[Lorien19]

I'm curious about why Cullen is worried about Liz Lehtone (producer at BioWare) or more specifically, why he's worried about her Inquisitor.

 

Could it be that he just worries in general because the Inquisitor works so hard? Is it just a natural reaction to seeing his beloved risking her life everyday? Or is it something more? Perhaps the stress starts to get to the Inquisitor either mentally, emotionally, or physically (like it did with Shepard)? Maybe it's that magic wound on her hand causing her health problems? Or perhaps she's at a phase in the game where something really bad happened and Cullen is concerned that the Inquisitor is bottling it up or suffering in some way?

Personally,I'd like to see my inquisitor going through such a phase.As cruel as it might sound, leading a faction like the inquisition especially while the world has turned upside down,is bound to be extremely stressful even for someone with remarkably strong will.So yeah,I'd like my hero/oine to be more human this time and actually experience that in a more intense way.

[LolaLei]

I want this. My absolute favorite part of the Shepard/Kaidan romance was the scene when Shepard wakes up after sexy times in ME3, nervous/stressed/scared to hell of the responsibility on her shoulders, and Kaidan is just... there for her. Just that little conversation, supporting Shep through her worst fears, faking courage until they make it... sigh.

 

I want this for Cullen. Being the savior of the world, Herald of Andraste, big hero of the day, is a huge weight and responsibility to put on one person, and our Inquisitor is bound to bend at some point. If Cullen can be there for her like that, worried about her physical and emotional state, yes, but also supporting her and trusting that she can make it... just knowing that the person you love is there to be ~the wind beneath your wings~ can go a long way.

 

That's definitely something I'd like to see more of in DAI. In DA2 they done it a little with the death of Hawke's mother and stuff, but none of the companions in DA:O or DA2 ever really stopped to really ask properly how the protagonist was feeling, it was always us dealing with everyone elses problems.

 

I'd definitely like to see the more "human" side to the Inquisitor, rather than them being this constant big goddamn flawless hero that seems to breeze through problems like water off a ducks back.

[Sable Rhapsody]

That's definitely something I'd like to see more of in DAI. In DA2 they done it a little with the death of Hawke's mother and stuff, but none of the companions in DA:O or DA2 ever really stopped to really ask properly how the protagonist was feeling, it was always us dealing with everyone elses problems.

 

I'd definitely like to see the more "human" side to the Inquisitor, rather than them being this constant big goddamn flawless hero that seems to breeze through problems like water off a ducks back.

 

Aveline and Varric both take time to talk to Hawke.  Aveline offers some comfort after Leandra's death, and Varric voices his concerns over Hawke's LI.  But other than that, it's mostly Hawke fixing (or not fixing) other people's problems.

 

DA:I seems like it's going to address the Inquisitor's mental state and thought process more, through judgments and other elements that deal with the consequences of your actions.  And I'd like to see the more "human" side to the Inquisitor too, just so long as it's not forced.  IMO a PC expressing strong emotion when the player finds it inappropriate is a lot more jarring than a lack of reaction from the PC (ie, Shepard always throwing a fit after Thessia).

[Sifr]

Sarcastic Hawke was probably the best example of a sad clown in DA2 and it was nice when you had moments where the companions acknowledged it, like Aveline calling Hawke out after the death of their mother for pretending to be okay, as well as when Carver complains about how they make jokes about everything, only for Hawke to switch from funny to utter fury when Carver makes a remark about Bethany's death.

 

Shepard being worn down across ME3 was a nice touch as you never really felt that they were phased by anything in the previous games, especially since they'd already died before. It was especially nice that little moment at the end of the Cerberus assault where Shepard wonders if they really are who they think they are and not just a high-tech VI? It was a nice moment of self-awareness and it was nice that your love interest steps in to reassure you that you are real to them.

 

I'd like to see some more complexity to the Inquisitor this time around and perhaps some guilt over being the sole survivor of the Breach. A lot of people died, including people they obviously knew from whatever group they were sent there with. That's got to hit them in some way, surely?

[LolaLei]

Aveline and Varric both take time to talk to Hawke.  Aveline offers some comfort after Leandra's death, and Varric voices his concerns over Hawke's LI.  But other than that, it's mostly Hawke fixing (or not fixing) other people's problems.

 

DA:I seems like it's going to address the Inquisitor's mental state and thought process more, through judgments and other elements that deal with the consequences of your actions.  And I'd like to see the more "human" side to the Inquisitor too, just so long as it's not forced.  IMO a PC expressing strong emotion when the player finds it inappropriate is a lot more jarring than a lack of reaction from the PC (ie, Shepard always throwing a fit after Thessia).

 

Yeah, it was lacklustre though especially since the game took place over 7 years and they only asked once, LOL! 

 

The devs did say that the advisors and companions will question our choices and ask us questions... I can only presume the latter is also to serve as a way for us to develop our character and his/her backstory further based on our responses etc, kinda like in DA:O when you ask Morrigan about her mother and in turn she asks you about your mother, to which you can reply accordingly depending on whether you wanted your Warden to have a good relationship with her/his mum or a bad one etc.

[LolaLei]

I'd like to see some more complexity to the Inquisitor this time around and perhaps some guilt over being the sole survivor of the Breach. A lot of people died, including people they obviously knew from whatever group they were sent there with. That's got to hit them in some way, surely?

 

Oh, god yes! I'm hoping we'll get a bunch of options for how we feel about this when asked. That way we can develop our Inquisitor's personality early on, so if we want him/her to have survivor's guilt then we can go with an answer that reflects that, or if you want him/her to be a bit arrogant with early delusions of grandeur you could reply with something like "I always knew I was meant for great things, being the soul survivor obviously proves that", and so on.

[riverbanks]

DA2 handled this a little better, I thought, letting your argue the responsibility for Bethany's/Carver's death with the survinging sibling, having your LI/best friend offer some cold comfort after Leandra's death, having the ghost of Leandra tell you "you're not okay and it's fine to break down sometimes" if you do Legacy after she dies, etc.

 

It was DAO that I thought was pretty abysmal about it. Some of the origins are downright tragic, and no one ever bothers asking you how you feel. You go back to Orzammar as dwarf noble and find your traitor brother has also killed your father now, nobody cares. You go back to Denerim and face the man who raped your cousing and almost raped you and later find your father being sold into slavery, nobody cares. Your best friend shows up at camp tainted and half-ghouled and you're forced to kill him as he confesses his love for you, nobody cares. You find the murderer of your family, he cracks jokes about your mother licking his boots, you get some shallow/insipid revenge that really does nothing to avenge your loved ones, and again, nobody cares. And the best one ever - if you romance Alistair and he dies, nobody cares. Nobody. You were in love with the guy, everybody knew it, everybody joked about it, he gave his life away to save yours... and nobody cares. Not even a "oh yeah sorry your boyfriend died" for your troubles. It's like... here is your therapist Warden, listening to your gripes, solving all your problems, fixing your sh*tty lives, mending your broken hearts, but when she needs a word of comfort, a shoulder to cry on, just somebody to ask "hey are you ok??" - nothing. Nada.

 

Seriously hope this changes in DAI. Would be nice if we got involved dialogue, conversations where we can share our intimate thoughts too and not just listen to everyone else's, but if anything, at least have the characters care as much about us as we care about them. And this, of course:

 

I'd like to see some more complexity to the Inquisitor this time around and perhaps some guilt over being the sole survivor of the Breach. A lot of people died, including people they obviously knew from whatever group they were sent there with. That's got to hit them in some way, surely?

 

Would be the perfect start. At least have the people around you at the time like Cassandra, or directly involved with the tragedy there, like Cullen and Leliana, ask you how you feel about it. Not just point and go "HERALD!!!" like there's not really a person under your armor, but just a symbol of something greater.

[morie91]

just poking in to leave Lola a compliment ;u;

 

*whispers* i love your voice and accent gurl!! ♥ but you probably have heard it like hundreds of times

 

*goes back to work*

[Tishina]

 

It was DAO that I thought was pretty abysmal about it. Some of the origins are downright tragic, and no one ever bothers asking you how you feel. You go back to Orzammar as dwarf noble and find your traitor brother has also killed your father now, nobody cares.

Don't forget the insults that get thrown in the faces of dwarves from both origins when you return to Orzammar, and the slurs toward a CE from both humans and Dalish, and your companions never speak up to object...

[R2s Muse]

Chiming in late on how Cullen will feel about you choosing Mage vs Templars, we've already seen him respond to this in DA2 to some degree, and curiously my Hawke always got the best reactions out of him by being moderate and trying to get him to acknowledge problems on both sides. I was shocked to discover this on my pro Templar playthrough, as he really didn't dig on me being gung-ho aggro Templar. Based on that, I would expect him to appreciate any kind of reasonable approach you want to take.

[CENIC]

Seriously hope this changes in DAI. Would be nice if we got involved dialogue, conversations where we can share our intimate thoughts too and not just listen to everyone else's, but if anything, at least have the characters care as much about us as we care about them.

I can't like this post enough.