just poking in to leave Lola a compliment ;u;
*whispers* i love your voice and accent gurl!! ♥ but you probably have heard it like hundreds of times
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just poking in to leave Lola a compliment ;u;
*whispers* i love your voice and accent gurl!! ♥ but you probably have heard it like hundreds of times
*goes back to work*
Aw, thanks! ![]()
Chiming in late on how Cullen will feel about you choosing Mage vs Templars, we've already seen him respond to this in DA2 to some degree, and curiously my Hawke always got the best reactions out of him by being moderate and trying to get him to acknowledge problems on both sides. I was shocked to discover this on my pro Templar playthrough, as he really didn't dig on me being gung-ho aggro Templar. Based on that, I would expect him to appreciate any kind of reasonable approach you want to take.
Really? I've never thought to be a balls-to-the-wall pro-templar before, does he tell you off or something?
Chiming in late on how Cullen will feel about you choosing Mage vs Templars, we've already seen him respond to this in DA2 to some degree, and curiously my Hawke always got the best reactions out of him by being moderate and trying to get him to acknowledge problems on both sides. I was shocked to discover this on my pro Templar playthrough, as he really didn't dig on me being gung-ho aggro Templar. Based on that, I would expect him to appreciate any kind of reasonable approach you want to take.
thank you R2, as well as Lola, for explaining things for such an ignorant ass like myself ^^"
i try to stay reasonable in real life, so i hope my playthrough won't be full of out of character decisions, and BW is going to allow me to choose them according to how i personally feel is right (:
I'm curious about why Cullen is worried about Liz Lehtone (producer at BioWare) or more specifically, why he's worried about her Inquisitor.
Could it be that he just worries in general because the Inquisitor works so hard? Is it just a natural reaction to seeing his beloved risking her life everyday? Or is it something more? Perhaps the stress starts to get to the Inquisitor either mentally, emotionally, or physically (like it did with Shepard)? Maybe it's that magic wound on her hand causing her health problems? Or perhaps she's at a phase in the game where something really bad happened and Cullen is concerned that the Inquisitor is bottling it up or suffering in some way?
DA2 handled this a little better, I thought, letting your argue the responsibility for Bethany's/Carver's death with the survinging sibling, having your LI/best friend offer some cold comfort after Leandra's death, having the ghost of Leandra tell you "you're not okay and it's fine to break down sometimes" if you do Legacy after she dies, etc.
It was DAO that I thought was pretty abysmal about it. Some of the origins are downright tragic, and no one ever bothers asking you how you feel. You go back to Orzammar as dwarf noble and find your traitor brother has also killed your father now, nobody cares. You go back to Denerim and face the man who raped your cousing and almost raped you and later find your father being sold into slavery, nobody cares. Your best friend shows up at camp tainted and half-ghouled and you're forced to kill him as he confesses his love for you, nobody cares. You find the murderer of your family, he cracks jokes about your mother licking his boots, you get some shallow/insipid revenge that really does nothing to avenge your loved ones, and again, nobody cares. And the best one ever - if you romance Alistair and he dies, nobody cares. Nobody. You were in love with the guy, everybody knew it, everybody joked about it, he gave his life away to save yours... and nobody cares. Not even a "oh yeah sorry your boyfriend died" for your troubles. It's like... here is your therapist Warden, listening to your gripes, solving all your problems, fixing your sh*tty lives, mending your broken hearts, but when she needs a word of comfort, a shoulder to cry on, just somebody to ask "hey are you ok??" - nothing. Nada.
Seriously hope this changes in DAI. Would be nice if we got involved dialogue, conversations where we can share our intimate thoughts too and not just listen to everyone else's, but if anything, at least have the characters care as much about us as we care about them. And this, of course:
Would be the perfect start. At least have the people around you at the time like Cassandra, or directly involved with the tragedy there, like Cullen and Leliana, ask you how you feel about it. Not just point and go "HERALD!!!" like there's not really a person under your armor, but just a symbol of something greater.
Can't like this post enough!
He's the worst when you tell him you don't want to choose sides (the "this is no scholarly debate!" Diatribe). But he was cold and distant with me when I was aggro Templar. Sort if the "yeah ok right" response. Which was bad since that was going to be my "Hawke and Cullen secretly crush on each other" playthrough. Instead I had to go with my moderate "I see both sides" Mage.Really? I've never thought to be a balls-to-the-wall pro-templar before, does he tell you off or something?
Oh, god yes! I'm hoping we'll get a bunch of options for how we feel about this when asked. That way we can develop our Inquisitor's personality early on, so if we want him/her to have survivor's guilt then we can go with an answer that reflects that, or if you want him/her to be a bit arrogant with early delusions of grandeur you could reply with something like "I always knew I was meant for great things, being the soul survivor obviously proves that", and so on.
Would be the perfect start. At least have the people around you at the time like Cassandra, or directly involved with the tragedy there, like Cullen and Leliana, ask you how you feel about it. Not just point and go "HERALD!!!" like there's not really a person under your armor, but just a symbol of something greater.
Exactly, I want to have the option to be rather angry about being forced into this new role against our will.
Inquisitor: Stop looking at me like that, I am nothing special!
Leliana: Of course you are, you were chosen by Andraste herself!
Inquisitor: Not a lot of other options when everyone else was turned to a crisp...
Leliana: Don't say things like that, their deaths were not your fault!
Inquisitor: No, they were the/your Maker's! And now I am to be a pawn in his games and I. Don't. Like. It!
I'd honestly be surprised if he were any kind of extremist in DAI. Partially because the devs have also said that these characters will be about moderation this time around. So I don't expect him to be "let's let all the mages do whatever they want!" Nor "let's go kill all the mages." But there's a lot of room in between. So I'm hopeful you'd find an approach that feels true to how'd you want to play the game... And still bags Cullen.thank you R2, as well as Lola, for explaining things for such an ignorant ass like myself ^^"
i try to stay reasonable in real life, so i hope my playthrough won't be full of out of character decisions, and BW is going to allow me to choose them according to how i personally feel is right (:
Maybe, maybe not. I don't think a hard liner stance is in and of itself a bad thing. I don't think Cullen would necessarily hate it either.Hm. I wonder if any of my Cullen dislike is from playing a highly pro-templar Hawke then.
Maybe we'll learn a little more about Cullen's role in the Inquisition next week when the interview with Cam about the wartable comes out.
Could very well be. I didn't particularly like him in my aggro Templar playthrough... But I also quit it about a third of the way in. On the other hand.., maybe just don't like him. LOL And that's fine too.Hm. I wonder if any of my Cullen dislike is from playing a highly pro-templar Hawke then.
Maybe we'll learn a little more about Cullen's role in the Inquisition next week when the interview with Cam about the wartable comes out.
I expect so, since the war table seems to be Cullen's baby in Skyhold, like Leliana's has been implied to be the rookery. I kind of hope Cullen will have some dialogue with Cassandra to try to stop her from leaving knife marks in the table.
thank you R2, as well as Lola, for explaining things for such an ignorant ass like myself ^^"
i try to stay reasonable in real life, so i hope my playthrough won't be full of out of character decisions, and BW is going to allow me to choose them according to how i personally feel is right (:
It's gonna be interesting, that's for sure.
See, I'll be playing my self-insert as a human mage, and since our mage background states that we're from the circle I know for a fact that if I was in that situation I would've been one of the freedom fighters wanting freedom for all mages without even stopping to consider the other side of the situation or the implications of my actions, simply because I have a habit of being very committed to a cause to the point of practically being blinkered, especially when there's been some sort of mistreatment involved. I know for a fact that I'd eat up all the sob stories and completely vilify the rebel Templars after essentially believing all the propaganda built up around how terrible they are.
Don't get me wrong, from the outside as the player I can see that yes, mages are victims, BUT neither side is blameless and both have done wrong. However, my me!Inquisitor doesn't have that sort of meta-knowledge so I'll have to play her based off my own past actions, flaws and personality traits. I guess essentially my me!Inquisitor will start off much like Cullen was at the beginning of DA2 (except not as bloody grumpy), but instead of being balls-to-the-wall pro templar, she'll be balls-to-the-wall pro-mage all the way through that peace gathering, hopefully with the option for us to try and talk the mage leaders into not letting the Templars put us back into the circles/to not back down etc, then gradually as she experiences life outside of the circle without the need to fight for her freedom constantly she'll start to see what life is like for normal people/other cultures/the Templars etc and beginning to see the bigger picture and show remorse for some of her actions (because knowing me she'll have done some really sh!tty things in her time) and from there she'll feel guilty and want to put things right etc.
Of course, falling for a Templar (of all things) is gonna throw a nice layer of head mess into the mix too, but I think she'll need to see/hear about the horrible things he went through and had to do, for her to realise that it's not just the mages that have it hard, and that some Templars are good people. That being said, she's not necessarily going to be a complete bastard to everyone to begin with or anything, it really depends on how they speak to her etc.
I expect so, since the war table seems to be Cullen's baby in Skyhold, like Leliana's has been implied to be the rookery. I kind of hope Cullen will have some dialogue with Cassandra to try to stop her from leaving knife marks in the table.
Cullen's got his own tower, I know that much. Not sure whether or not we'll find him hogging the war table though, LOL!
Mine war table, mine!
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This is beautiful! But so sad. Poor Cullen...
Well, I see Cullen getting along rather well with my pro Circle Inquisitor....eventually. My guy will probably be crushing very hard on Cullen at first, till he realizes Cullen isn't interested. Though Cullen will probably need to make a damned good first impression, especially if he's with Cass when we are imprisoned by her.
idk if u guys saw this but I LOVE THIS
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Oooh I like it. Dual wielding will be only my secondary weapon on Cullenmancing Trevelyan, though, so this only makes me even more curious about the archery abilities. Hope we see some of the archery tree soon too, I need to know what abilities survived the shuffle from the previous games so I can work lady Trevelyan's favorite bow tricks into her character sheet.
Well, I see Cullen getting along rather well with my pro Circle Inquisitor....eventually. My guy will probably be crushing very hard on Cullen at first, till he realizes Cullen isn't interested. Though Cullen will probably need to make a damned good first impression, especially if he's with Cass when we are imprisoned by her.
I wonder if we'll actually still get the option to attempt to flirt with the gender/race gated companions/advisors even though they aren't interested? I'd love to see how Vivienne, Varric, Dorian, and Sera turn down Inquisitors that are their type, LOL!
@LolaLei
wow quite an essay you wrote in your post (:
i completely understand you, but notice that you're going to play as a human, and i am going to play as a dalish elf. these are two completely different backgrounds for our mage babies. also while mages from circles may have the feeling of being caged, intimidated, and abused by templars, dalish mages are freely allowed to learn the beauty of their talents without the reasons to **** their pants every time they use the magic ;p so my point is, moirin is going to have completely different view on the whole mages/templars conflict than mages held under the heavy foot of the templars, heck, she might not have a slightest idea something like that has been happening somewhere in the "outside" world. that's why i want her to use her intellect instead of prejudice in this case (:
also i might change my way of thinking, depending on how the story is going to reveal itself during the gameplay.
I wonder if we'll actually still get the option to attempt to flirt with the gender/race gated companions/advisors even though they aren't interested? I'd love to see how Vivienne, Varric, Dorian, and Sera turn down Inquisitors that are their type, LOL!
We probably won't have such flirt options. I wrote Gale as having a pretty obvious crush on Cullen at first, until he realized that Cullen wasn't interested in men. I kinda headcanon that it was pretty well known around Skyhold how much Gale pined after Cullen, at least until my guy met Dorian. It was only when Gale realized how much Cullen had seen did he really take the time to get to know the man who is his subordinate.
@LolaLei
wow quite an essay you wrote in your post (:
i completely understand you, but notice that you're going to play as a human, and i am going to play as a dalish elf. these are two completely different backgrounds for our mage babies. also while mages from circles may have the feeling of being caged, intimidated, and abused by templars, dalish mages are freely allowed to learn the beauty of their talents without the reasons to **** their pants every time they use the magic ;p so my point is, moirin is going to have completely different view on the whole mages/templars conflict than mages held under the heavy foot of the templars, heck, she might not have a slightest idea something like that has been happening somewhere in the "outside" world. that's why i want her to use her intellect instead of prejudice in this case (:
also i might change my way of thinking, depending on how the story is going to reveal itself during the gameplay.
Yeah, I was gonna do Dalish but then I realised that I'd have to have facial tattoos which I really don't want LOL! Well, that and I'm not keen on the Dalish in general. I was hoping for a city Elf and/or a circle Elf.
But anyway, that's what I mean, we'll be playing our characters as self-inserts so we have to take into account the background of our race/class of Inquisitor and kinda work out how to play as ourselves if we were in their situation from their type of background, if that makes sense? My example was just how I'm gonna approach my female human mage me!Inquisitor based off her background/class and my own flaws and personality traits.
We probably won't have such flirt options. I wrote Gale as having a pretty obvious crush on Cullen at first, until he realized that Cullen wasn't interested in men. I kinda headcanon that it was pretty well known around Skyhold how much Gale pined after Cullen, at least until my guy met Dorian. It was only when Gale realized how much Cullen had seen did he really take the time to get to know the man who is his subordinate.
Mine will find herself drawn to him, despite not actually wanting to get involved in a Templar (ex or not)... plus, I can't be sure that one of our temp companions during that peace gathering prologue won't be another Tamlen (in terms of him/her being a potential love interest prior to the blast), if that's the case then my me!Inquisitor won't even be looking to romance anyone when she gets thrown into the role of Inquisitor.