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[AresKeith]

I think the big difference between us is that you see it as male vs. female, whereas I see it as straight vs. gay.

There isn't any versus

[Boudicae]

Can we pleeeease not turn this into the Romance thread? There's a reason some of us don't go in there!

[Xilizhra]

I don't think it's verses anything. It just is what it is, the devs/writers say they have their reasons for certain characters being romanceable/not romance/in/out and eventually we'll find out.

I truly despise how they torment us with not knowing already. Inevitable, but utterly maddening.

[LolaLei]

I truly despise how they torment us with not knowing already. Inevitable, but utterly maddening.

 

I suspect a lot of it is down to in-game clarification, so that would cause spoilers if they talked about that aspect of it. As for why they chose the gender/LI/companion ratio, who knows? I don't reckon they'll tell us until after the game ships though.

[wiccame]

I'm upset primarily that they focused their resources on adding two extra characters who could only be romanced by straight women.

 

Don't forget that the only 2 race gated romances are aimed at female only LI's. I think it balances out fairly well.

[Nhadalie]

I think any complaints about fairness belong in a different topic. There's no reason to start a flame war amongst the fans just because there are only two lesbian options. That there are such a wide variety of romance options to begin with is an amazing breakthrough in gaming, and I'm proud to be a fan of Bioware for supporting all of their fans by giving us great games with interesting characters.

 

There aren't very many games that have romances in them, period. And they keep producing ones that give everyone a romance option.

 

 

I, alas, think I am too hung up on shipping him with my ruthless, rather tragic Amell to romance him.

That's part of the reason why I'm looking forward to his romance. That, and I've been waiting since Origins to do something about his crush on Amell.

 

I want to see how they address his prior feelings for Amell/Surana. Cullen will probably be either my 2nd or 3rd romance playthrough. Because I'll have trouble coming to terms with him moving on, though it's probably time, right? He's only harbored feelings for Amell/Surana for 10 years.

[morie91]

to lighten up this thread a little, i show you another of my DA strips (:

 

those who follow greg's twitter, see the obvious reference here ;p

 

[Sable Rhapsody]

That's part of the reason why I'm looking forward to his romance. That, and I've been waiting since Origins to do something about his crush on Amell.

 

I want to see how they address his prior feelings for Amell/Surana. Cullen will probably be either my 2nd or 3rd romance playthrough. Because I'll have trouble coming to terms with him moving on, though it's probably time, right? He's only harbored feelings for Amell/Surana for 10 years.

 

I feel kinda bad.  You guys have put so much time and effort and thought into Cullen's relationship with the Warden mage, and my Amell just kind of gave him the side-eye and skipped off merrily with Alistair without a second thought    Then came DA2 where my Hawke was just awful to him at every opportunity.  He has no luck with the Amell ladies in my game, the poor noodlehead.

[LolaLei]

I totally read that in their voices!

[Tishina]

to lighten up this thread a little, i show you another of my DA strips (:

 

those who follow greg's twitter, see the obvious reference here ;p

 

*giggle* thank you!

[Aunty Social]

@Sable that is perfect.  Purrfect?  

 

I've been trying to get over this block about writing even simple kiss scenes (seriously, I cover my eyes at the movies lol), because I want to finish this Cullen fiction for page 3000.... it's even all happy endy-ey because reasons.  I super suck at happy and kissy though.  (flops dramatically)  I need some more Cullen art, thats what I need

 

Any fic writers have anything like that?  Prude blocks, or anything else that hampers writing?  If so how did you overcome them, or are working to overcome them?  Do you do exercises?  I think my problem is, that becuase I've been role playing (table top gaming hoooo) for 20+ years, I put part of myself into everything I write/draw/play/read etc, so I have trouble with making that disassociation?  Maybe?  Does that sound plausible as a mental block?  lol

 

Anyhow, page 3000 comes with rapidity, and I am not making enough progress.  Ill just have to whip out the old journal, and hope I can read my own handwriting afterwards >.>

 

edited:  and Morie posts art!  Yay for Morie!

[jtav]

Well part of it is that Alistair is, er, well, dead. The Cullen/Amell thing was actually something I came up when the DAI profile for Cullen was posted.

[LolaLei]

I feel kinda bad.  You guys have put so much time and effort and thought into Cullen's relationship with the Warden mage, and my Amell just kind of gave him the side-eye and skipped off merrily with Alistair without a second thought    Then came DA2 where my Hawke was just awful to him at every opportunity.  He has no luck with the Amell ladies in my game, the poor noodlehead.

 

Lol, I totally 100% definitely don't ship my Amell with Cullen. She only had eyes for Alistair... and Jowan, briefly. 

 

I always just head canoned that she presumed it was just rumours, and when she did realise he liked her (when she spoke to him) she was too busy trying to help Jowan escape to give it much thought... plus, he's a Templar so she wouldn't have got involved anyway.

[LolaLei]

Well part of it is that Alistair is, er, well, dead. The Cullen/Amell thing was actually something I came up when the DAI profile for Cullen was posted.

 

You monster! 

[Ryzaki]

I never really shipped him with my Surana. He was just the cute templar boy who blushed when she said hi.

[Aunty Social]

You monster! 

 

I read that in GLADOS' voice

[Tishina]

On the topic of Cullen...

Most people seem to be aiming to romance him with either a human (any class) or an elven mage. Even though I'm leaning toward a human mage, I think an elven rogue or warrior could be pretty fascinating with him too, especially if you get the opportunity to point out (gently) how in Dalish culture, mages aren't feared, and they don't apparently have any more (possibly less) problems with magic. There might be something about a non-mage pointing this out to Cullen and others that carries some weight?

[Nhadalie]

I feel kinda bad.  You guys have put so much time and effort and thought into Cullen's relationship with the Warden mage, and my Amell just kind of gave him the side-eye and skipped off merrily with Alistair without a second thought    Then came DA2 where my Hawke was just awful to him at every opportunity.  He has no luck with the Amell ladies in my game, the poor noodlehead.

I personally always thought that my Amell ran off with Cullen after the end of Origins.

 

Then DA2 came out, and I couldn't help importing an Amell into it once I found out they were related. And I began to enjoy the idea of Amell moving on, instead of having a tragic fanfic story.(One where after romancing Alistair, he dumps her, and she ends up with Cullen after several years.) I ended up making her Alistair's mistress instead, though I'm very tempted to import an Amell who romanced Leliana.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Any fic writers have anything like that?  Prude blocks, or anything else that hampers writing?  If so how did you overcome them, or are working to overcome them?  Do you do exercises?  I think my problem is, that becuase I've been role playing (table top gaming hoooo) for 20+ years, I put part of myself into everything I write/draw/play/read etc, so I have trouble with making that disassociation?  Maybe?  Does that sound plausible as a mental block?  lol

 

I don't consider myself prudish when it comes to reading or editing fanfiction, but I did have some pretty serious prude blocks.  It's going to sound extremely bizarre, but the kink memes for Mass Effect and Dragon Age helped me get over it.  Since everything is anonymous, and just about everything is porny, and people are really appreciative of even short fills, it feels more ok.  Does that make any sense?

[QueenofFereldan]

With my Amell, she was oblivious to it , but saw him as a good friend. Same with Alistair...but Zevran came along and just STOLE HER. XD

[Boudicae]

That's part of the reason why I'm looking forward to his romance. That, and I've been waiting since Origins to do something about his crush on Amell.
 
I want to see how they address his prior feelings for Amell/Surana. Cullen will probably be either my 2nd or 3rd romance playthrough. Because I'll have trouble coming to terms with him moving on, though it's probably time, right? He's only harbored feelings for Amell/Surana for 10 years.

I think for my first play through I'm going to set up the most tragic world state possible (which is pretty much how my first playthroughs of DAO and DA2 went anyway lol... ): Female mage for DAO (human so she is related to Hawke) who gets dumped by Alistair and makes the ultimate sacrifice; female mage Hawke who loses both siblings and tried so hard to work out a peaceful resolution, but was betrayed by her lover Anders and in the end had to kill him, as he could no longer control himself. I think this will properly set up a maximum-feels run where I'm sure I will do something to end up with the most tragic result possible, since I won't use any guides on my first playthrough.

[jtav]

You monster!

I actually don't like Alistair. Or Anders. Or Kaidan.

Yeah, lots of f/f in my games. I think Cullen and Blackwall are the first time I'm attracted to who I'm supposed to be.

[Sifr]

There isn't any versus

 

That's my thought.

 

I don't think they set out to write characters in term of gay vs straight, they just write the character and their sexuality is decided as an organic outgrowth of who they are. I believe that David Gaider once wrote a blog entry where he said something along the lines that he's never intentionally set out to write "a gay character", but just wrote characters who happened to be gay. I know that this has certainly happened before in my own writing or gaming, where I've been pleasantly surprised to discover the character I was penning/roleplaying happened to be gay, lesbian or bi?

 

There's no agenda in mind from the devs to have set ratios and assign sexualities based on them, or at the very least I hope there isn't? It would be a disservice both to the fans and the characters themselves?

 

Can we pleeeease not turn this into the Romance thread? There's a reason some of us don't go in there!

 

Here here!

[Aunty Social]

@Sable

 

Is there an address for that?  It actually makes sense in a way (Heck when I learned to swim my dad just threw me in the deep end, sink or swim!  Sink or swim!)  So as a matter of course, it is something that I would probably thrive in doing, just because it's for someone as opposed to an event, or some such.  PM me with the link for that, if you would be so super kind, or can I google search it?

 

Ive actually heard about it, but wasn't too sure what it was hahaha

 

I'm to the part with Cullen stripping sort of angrily because of a fight with dumbQuizzy, and she's coming to apologize and he's getting ready for his bath, but he's upset and she's like O.O (give it to me now)

[Tishina]

I actually don't like Alistair. Or Anders. Or Kaidan.

Yeah, lots of f/f in my games. I think Cullen and Blackwall are the first time I'm attracted to who I'm supposed to be.

I like Anders in DAA, but not in DA2. I liked Alistair, but I admit, at my age, I always felt like I should pat him on the head and tell him there, there. Only somewhat familiar with ME, but Kaidan wasn't nearly as interesting to me as Garrus.

 

Edit: I should admit, I find Alistair annoying at times when playing a male warden much more than as a female warden.