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I've always wondered what the statistics were for DAO's ending: how many players went with the DR and how many refused?
 

 

In all of my three playthroughs I have gone with DR but it fitted to my wardens. First was in love with Morrigan and he was like, okay let's make baby and I'll totally come to find you and our baby later on no matter what you say XD Second one was my coward city elf, I was thinking of sacrifice but I didn't want Zevran to be alone and DR was choice he'd have made anyways. My last warden is selfish and didn't want to die, convincing Alistair to DR was her easy way out. Omg, my Wardens are terrible XD My only heroic character is my blood mage Hawke who sided with templars.. lol so conflicting.



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"Canon"
Also I think it was specifically designed so as any newcomers aren't bombarded with too many factors they haven't heard of from choices they never made. So it'll have less content to be less intimidating. So there'll be no Warden in their game because she's dead, they'll be no OGB, because no one would shag Morrigan, and I think the Anvil is also destroyed so there's no new golems being made.

 

If anyone's curious, here's the wiki, which breaks down the choices: Here

 

What's interesting is that Branka lives and the Anvil is destroyed. I think the Matyr was made so that as many people who could be alive are. Except the OGB and the Warden herself. Smart choices.



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While we're talking about Morrigan and the OGB, I have a tangentially related question: did the Devs say if the other kind of baby Morrigan can possibly have is canon, too? Or, not canon, but, possible in-game? Er. Can my Warden get Morrigan pregnant not from the Dark Ritual, and is it possible that kid will show up in DAI?

 

Oh my God that was harder to word than I thought it would be.

Considering you're a damn near infertile Warden, you could only get Morrigan pregnant via the Dark Ritual.


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In all of my three playthroughs I have gone with DR but it fitted to my wardens. First was in love with Morrigan and he was like, okay let's make baby and I'll totally come to find you and our baby later on no matter what you say XD Second one was my coward city elf, I was thinking of sacrifice but I didn't want Zevran to be alone and DR was choice he'd have made anyways. My last warden is selfish and didn't want to die, convincing Alistair to DR was her easy way out. Omg, my Wardens are terrible XD My only heroic character is my blood mage Hawke who sided with templars.. lol so conflicting.

 

Yeah, most of my Wardens were either friends with Morrigan and so trusted her (possibly a bad move), or just didn't want to die, or were happy to screw over the Andrastrian religion. Sometimes all three! Of the three who didn't do the ritual, we have the Martyr background (I cheat), one who couldn't convince Loghain to do it (my choice), and one where he believed having the soul of an old god survive was very bad news, but let Alistair kill the Archdemon because, hey, dude offered, and I wanted a run where Alistair was dead.  :P

 

I wonder who Alistair's Wreav is gonna be. Ooo~! I hope it's Fergus!  :D


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If anyone's curious, here's the wiki, which breaks down the choices: Here
 
What's interesting is that Branka lives and the Anvil is destroyed. I think the Matyr was made so that as many people who could be alive are. Except the OGB and the Warden herself. Smart choices.


I don't think that's possible to have the anvil gone and Branka still alive. Where it says support of Branka, I think it means they fought both Branka and Caridin.

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Bite some of you in the arse.  :P 
 
Okay, fine, he'll bite my ass, too, a couple of times. Most of the time. Two-thirds of the time.
 
BAH.
 


There's only so many times I can bounce between NPC and Companion before I get a headache.  :lol:  

 

I still am 100% certain that he is a companion. If he is not, everyone has the right to tell me they told me so. But that won't happen, because I'm right. He is a companion.

 

:P :lol:


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Considering you're a damn near infertile Warden, you could only get Morrigan pregnant via the Dark Ritual.

 

I thought there was a post-game slide about it, even if you don't do the ritual? But, then again, it was a DAO slide, and that could mean nothing. Plus, more work for a small market of players, I'd think. Thank you!



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Considering you're a damn near infertile Warden, you could only get Morrigan pregnant via the Dark Ritual.


Nope. If you sleep with her, but refuse the DR she still has a child, but the Warden/Alistair/Loghain still dies.

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In all of my three playthroughs I have gone with DR but it fitted to my wardens. First was in love with Morrigan and he was like, okay let's make baby and I'll totally come to find you and our baby later on no matter what you say XD Second one was my coward city elf, I was thinking of sacrifice but I didn't want Zevran to be alone and DR was choice he'd have made anyways. My last warden is selfish and didn't want to die, convincing Alistair to DR was her easy way out. Omg, my Wardens are terrible XD My only heroic character is my blood mage Hawke who sided with templars.. lol so conflicting.

 

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Lol, your wardens are delightfully "human" -- I love it! I tend to play heroes... I just have such a damned hard time making the rough choices! So I am in some ways jealous of you players with more variety/RPing guts than I possess. ;)

I never could play a blood Mage though and don't imagine I ever will unless the games ever start including actual reactive consequences for it, ya know?

 

If anyone's curious, here's the wiki, which breaks down the choices: Here
 
What's interesting is that Branka lives and the Anvil is destroyed. I think the Matyr was made so that as many people who could be alive are. Except the OGB and the Warden herself. Smart choices.


Like! I'd forgotten that link existed, thanks for dredging it up ;)
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I don't think that's possible to have the anvil gone and Branka still alive. Where it says support of Branka, I think it means they fought both Branka and Caridin.

 

Oh no, I've done it myself. If you tell Cairidan you'll destroy the Anvil but you need Branka, he'll attack you. Afterward, you can get Branka to destroy the Anvil. I was shocked that I could. Quite cool.


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Nope. If you sleep with her, but refuse the DR she still has a child, but the Warden/Alistair/Loghain still dies.

What? That's the first I have ever heard of that.



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Yeah, most of my Wardens were either friends with Morrigan and so trusted her (possibly a bad move), or just didn't want to die, or were happy to screw over the Andrastrian religion. Sometimes all three! 

 

I wonder who Alistair's Wreav is gonna be. Ooo~! I hope it's Fergus!  :D

Even with how much my Warden liked and trusted her, I still don't think I'd have done it without the metagame knowledge of that Gaider/Aimo comic where Morrigan tries to get up the courage to ask the Warden about it.

 

Re: Wreav, I was assuming Anora, but Fergus would be cool!


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Oh no, I've done it myself. If you tell Cairidan you'll destroy the Anvil but you need Branka, he'll attack you. Afterward, you can get Branka to destroy the Anvil. I was shocked that I could. Quite cool.


Really? That's interesting. I thought Branka and the Anvil's fates were tied together. Might have that for my third playthrough.
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I still am 100% certain that he is a companion. If he is not, everyone has the right to tell me they told me so. But that won't happen, because I'm right. He is a companion.

 

:P :lol:

 

I think 100% he's a companion too. Just have that feeling. My blood mage Inquisitor might have to convince him about her blood magic use in battle, but I think I know a way to have him get with the program. I'll be sneaky about it.  :rolleyes:

 

Inquisitor: Lose something?
 
Cullen: My signet ring? Thank the Maker. I've been looking all ov- wait. What is that red glow around the flaming sword? That wasn't there before.
 
Inquisitor: [slyly] Just a little charm of mine. [hands him the templar ring] Here you are.
 
Cullen: Is that blood magic?
 
Inquisitor: Is that going to save your ass in combat? You bet.

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I still am 100% certain that he is a companion. If he is not, everyone has the right to tell me they told me so. But that won't happen, because I'm right. He is a companion.
 
:P :lol:


I agree with you. And I've yet to be wrong. I said he's in the game and he is. I said he's a LI and he is. I say he's a companion and he will be.
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I agree with you. And I've yet to be wrong. I said he's in the game and he is. I said he's a LI and he is. I say he's a companion and he will be.

I thought Lady R2 was our Prophetess?



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I thought Lady R2 was our Prophetess?


She's our Queen. I'm the Oracle, the Cassandra, if you will, since no one believed me.
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She's our Queen. I'm the Oracle, the Cassandra, if you will, since no one believed me.

 

At least we didn't turn you into a statue, like that one in the Kinloch Hold's basement.


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At least we didn't turn you into a statue, like that one in the Kinloch Hold's basement.

Speaking of, I do want to see her again, which is highly possible since we are gonna be in Ferelden.


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Also, on a different note I do have an argument about sending away Cullen as well...

We know that Greagoir sent Cullen to Greenfell to recover first (and that's what I meant when I said he was at least trying to help), and only then to Kirkwall, because he thought Cullen may still blame the Fereldan mages for what happened to him. We don't know if Greagoir had many options about Cullen's new appointment, maybe it was just Kirkwall or Ferelden (after all Kirkwall is the closest place with a Circle; or maybe Kirkwall just had a vacancy). Maybe Greagoir also thought Cullen would feel safer in Kirkwall, because the rules there were more strict. I don't believe Greagoir wanted to get rid of him, because one of the possible epilogues in DAO was that Cullen replaced Greagoir eventually (which can still happen, btw ;)), and I don't think Greagoir would have allowed it. The retiring knight-commander probably can suggest the candidates for his replacement. I'm pretty sure he could have ruined Cullen's career if he wanted to, but Greagoir doesn't seem like the type to me.
Regarding trusting Irving - like Cullen said in DAII, that's what being a templar is about (it seems to me like he got it from Greagoir, because the situation is too similar). You have to take that risk, or you may kill an innocent. I think it's the kind of attitude every templar should have. But it's not Greagoir's choice, btw. This is one of the difficult decisions, which the Warden makes, not Greagoir. Because the Warden and Wynne saw what happened inside, and Greagoir can only trust their judgement. He can't trust Cullen, because Cullen is too traumatized to judge clearly, and Cullen didn't see everything, he was in the cage. That's why Greagoir trusts the Warden. The Warden - because that's what you represent with the treaties, that's why everyone has to listen to you and do as you say. And if the Warden says Irving is not possessed (and to ensure that we were using the litany of Adralla), and if Wynne confirms that, Greagor has no reason to mistrust Irving. I think it's great that they cooperate like that in Fereldan Circle. 

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She's our Queen. I'm the Oracle, the Cassandra, if you will, since no one believed me.

Ummm, you do know that means you're gonna get brutally murdered later, right?



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Dammit, out of Likes again.
Lol, your wardens are delightfully "human" -- I love it! I tend to play heroes... I just have such a damned hard time making the rough choices! So I am in some ways jealous of you players with more variety/RPing guts than I possess. ;)

I never could play a blood Mage though and don't imagine I ever will unless the games ever start including actual reactive consequences for it, ya know?

 

I have many kind of characters but for some reasons I only finished game with these one's. Maybe I want heroes who are only good little boring. I think I overall like conflicting characters like my blood mage. My headcanon for him isn't that he's evil maleficarum that wanted more power, more like he was into situation where he needed more power to save others when he was little so he's similar to Connor in that sense. Actually my blood mage is as good as it gets, always helping with everyone and wanting to find peaceful solution XD He friendship romanced Fenris, was friends with everyone else too (but not Isabela, sigh she always leaves my Hawkes) and in the end sided with templars cause he wanted to protect Kirkwall ^^


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Ummm, you do know that means you're gonna get brutally murdered later, right?


Ummm yeah, I see the future, remember?
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So Follower Friday is definitely this Friday, right? It's the last Friday of the month.



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Ummm yeah, I see the future, remember?

Ummmm, nice knowin' you then, PC!