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TBQH while I acknowlege everything that is fantastic about mods, after what has been done to character designs for both DAO and DA2, I 10000% support the motion that Dragon Age fandom should never, ever, ever be allowed near mods again. I can live without the Dragon Age equivalent to Frostfall if it means I will never need see White Vivienne, Blonde Dorian, More Beautiful Josephine, More Feminine Cassandra, Straight Sera, Younger Sexier Half-Naked Genderbent Solas'si, etc.

 

Not to mention the way modders have been going in nearby fandoms lately, the first thing we'd see in terms of mods would surely be bouncing breasts, and the skimpy armors to go with them, barf. I love my mods as much as the next guy, but I'd rather do without them at all than see that garbage infest this fandom too. :unsure:

I have mixed feelings about this. I'm not that wild about some of this stuff I've seen on Youtube. OTOH, I don't have to load them into MY game if I don't want to, so it doesn't actually impact my game play. I do wish there was some way to alert you to mods in bad taste on Youtube vids at least.



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TBQH while I acknowlege everything that is fantastic about mods, after what has been done to character designs for both DAO and DA2, I 10000% support the motion that Dragon Age fandom should never, ever, ever be allowed near mods again. I can live without the Dragon Age equivalent to Frostfall if it means I will never need see White Vivienne, Blonde Dorian, More Beautiful Josephine, More Feminine Cassandra, Straight Sera, Younger Sexier Half-Naked Genderbent Solas'si, etc.

 

It is true that those are all disturbing mods. It is sort of like porn, though, really: what you do in the comfort of your own home is your business... lol I don't want to know about it!

 

But, really, mods are a uniquely empowering tool for the gaming community. Yes, some mods are considered despicable by most sane and caring people, but others give gamers the power to change games so that they appeal to them. For example, a straight romance can be made accessible to a gay player or a scantily clad female character can be given more realistic armor by a female (or male) player. 

 

Plus mods simply extend the life of a game. I played DA2 far, far longer than I would have normally once I figured out how to mod my xbox saves. 

 

Developers just don't have the time and money to give us everything, and that's where modding comes in.


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I don't know how else to say this. I'd hit that.

 

Why do you think I wanted a Blackwall romance soooo bad  :crying: Been in love with this guy since North and South, but his Thorin is just... erm, orgasmic I think is the right word.


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I won't lie...I cried a little bit when I saw the freckles. *hugs CC* Freckles... :wub:

 

It looks amazing...I'm going crazy with the wait. I will spend hours in the CC. 

 

Oh my god, that's an inquisitor? Those frecklesssssssssssss! I'm so in love.


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They really have never said how it works out, but in DA2, if the warden is his mistress, at the end of his meeting with Hawke, he says something to Teagan about not telling the queen that you-know-who (the Warden) is back in Denerim. I don't know if this applies whether or not he's married to Anora. There's no reason a child of the two couldn't inherit the throne if there's no other heir and the child isn't a mage, but I think they also make it extremely clear that two wardens having a child is almost impossible (assuming Alistair had his facts right). My bet has always been that if Alistair is married to the Warden or Anora (both unlikely to produce a child), he'll end up finding a bastard of Cailan's to name heir (Anora tells you that Cailan had a lot of women, what are the odds there isn't at least ONE child somewhere?)

Yeah I saw that video which is why it kind of made me...I wouldn't say against the option but...weary of the option. Besides the character who I created is one of my few true sweethearts so I don't think she would be a mistress due to her nature/personaility. However, if Alistair does not marry then I could see my mage being his "mistress" or more like his wife...even though no one would admit the truth of that. So I'm kind of torn between having Alistair rule alone with my mage being his mistress or having them both remain Grey Wardens DX



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A Dwarf can have a child with a human, but the human genes are always dominant in either case.
 
The OGB for example, will always human because of Morrigan, despite being technically half-Dwarf or half-Elf.


It's actually the only race hybrid that leads to a completely unique race. In the DA universe only elven genes are the completely recessive ones. This means that Morrigan's son can be either human or half-dwarf.
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Yeah I saw that video which is why it kind of made me...I wouldn't say against the option but...weary of the option. Besides the character who I created is one of my few true sweethearts so I don't think she would be a mistress due to her nature/personaility. However, if Alistair does not marry then I could see my mage being his "mistress" or more like his wife...even though no one would admit the truth of that. So I'm kind of torn between having Alistair rule alone with my mage being his mistress or having them both remain Grey Wardens DX


...I might have to make my playthrough with Alistair alone and have the dwarf as his "mistress"...but they secretly got married in my head canon. XD

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We have freckles...we MUST GET DIMPLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I for one had to suffer through "AWWW You're so cute, smile more!!!" NUMEROUS times and I think I have a permanent glower thanks to everyone always wanting me to smile, but still I think dimples would be really cool!



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...I might have to make my playthrough with Alistair alone and have the dwarf as his "mistress"...but they secretly got married in my head canon. XD

That shall be my head canon as well, right now I am just trying to find a video that has the whole dialogue of your Warden becoming his "mistress" and chancellor. 



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Yeah I saw that video which is why it kind of made me...I wouldn't say against the option but...weary of the option. Besides the character who I created is one of my few true sweethearts so I don't think she would be a mistress due to her nature/personaility. However, if Alistair does not marry then I could see my mage being his "mistress" or more like his wife...even though no one would admit the truth of that. So I'm kind of torn between having Alistair rule alone with my mage being his mistress or having them both remain Grey Wardens DX

I generally married Alistair to Anora since I'm pretty sure she wants nothing to do with him. They have a strictly political state marriage, while your Warden is his unofficial wife. It keeps him from being pressured about getting married as much (at least until Eamon starts nagging about an heir).



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That shall be my head canon as well, right now I am just trying to find a video that has the whole dialogue of your Warden becoming his "mistress" and chancellor. 

The mistress bit is after the landsmeet, you have to convince him with the right dialogue (and he has to be hardened). Chancellor comes up post-coronation.



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So, I have to ask since I have a dwarf noble with Zevran: Dwarf and elf? (I think there's been speculation about Sandal in that direction...)


Elf genes are always recessive for some reason, so if you're half-elf, you always look like the other parent's race.
Though, Feynriel confuses that a bit in DA2. He mentions that other people can tell he's half-elf by looking at him (and he DOES look rather elfy)

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Hey, I have a Cullen question: 

 

The devs say we are able to get to know Cullen, about how why he joined the Order and such, as well as see him let his hair down.

 

1.) Why do you think Cullen joined the Templars, as opposed to somewhere else? 

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2.) What things do you think Cullen does for fun?



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It's actually the only race hybrid that leads to a completely unique race. In the DA universe only elven genes are the completely recessive ones. This means that Morrigan's son can be either human or half-dwarf.

 

Ah, just tracked down the post where this was mentioned, I thought it was the same situation as with half-Elves being always human.



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1.) Why do you think Cullen joined the Templars, as opposed to somewhere else? 

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2.) What things do you think Cullen does for fun?

 

We're just guessing here, right?  I don't have the lore mastery some do, so hopefully I don't stick my foot in it.  :)

 

(1) Well, they already did the younger son of nobility sorta thing with Sebastian and the warrior/rogue Trevelyan PC.  Though they could do that again, I think they might try something different.  Considering his early friendly attitude towards mages, I don't think he would be driven to it by, say, a having his family attacked by an abomination or anything like that.  Perhaps Cullen was orphaned and raised by the Chantry.  Oooo...or maybe he is the child of a Circle mage raised by the Chantry.  Either way, in this scenario, he just naturally gravitated towards the templars when he came of age.

 

(2) Plays cards, perhaps?  Doubt he gambles much, though.



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Elf genes are always recessive for some reason, so if you're half-elf, you always look like the other parent's race.
Though, Feynriel confuses that a bit in DA2. He mentions that other people can tell he's half-elf by looking at him (and he DOES look rather elfy)

Interesting, thanks!



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Hey, I have a Cullen question: 

 

The devs say we are able to get to know Cullen, about how why he joined the Order and such, as well as see him let his hair down.

 

1.) Why do you think Cullen joined the Templars, as opposed to somewhere else? 

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2.) What things do you think Cullen does for fun?

I'm not sure we have enough information yet, though I think there have been hints that he joined the Templars because he believed in them, and not by default or family pressure. We don't know he necessarily had anywhere else to go. I'm not sure it's confirmed he was Fereldan, but that's been the assumption. My impression of his personality is that he wouldn't consider Fereldan's army or personal service to a noble to be on the same level as the Templars.

 

As far as what he does for fun, we do know that he sings from something the VA says (but while Greg Ellis has a lovely singing voice, that doesn't mean Cullen necessarily will sing well). I'd guess he reads at least a little, probably philosophical/religious works? And I'd bet he's learned to play cards or dice of some sort (he IS in a military order, after all).



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I generally married Alistair to Anora since I'm pretty sure she wants nothing to do with him. They have a strictly political state marriage, while your Warden is his unofficial wife. It keeps him from being pressured about getting married as much (at least until Eamon starts nagging about an heir).

Anora is a strong character who I like at times and other times I wish she was pushed off a cliff, I have one PT where my Warden is King with her being his Queen...he also kind of romanced Morrigan and...went through the Eluvian...he also did the Dark Ritual...but that doesn't matter, lol! So I like Anora whenever she is with my Warden, but I also have a PT where my Warden is Alistair's queen and the witch betrayed me...don't get me wrong she was smart to do that but still that just makes me all the more...cautious. I don't know I think I will just have my main canon be one of the ones with my Warden being either the King or Queen.

 

As for Eamon well...he can go find a duck and royally kiss its... :D

 

The mistress bit is after the landsmeet, you have to convince him with the right dialogue (and he has to be hardened). Chancellor comes up post-coronation.

Ah that means it is similar to having to convince him to have the Warden be his wife...I know they must be rather persuasive, and Elissa *coughs* was very persuasive.



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So I decided to create another DA:O character and I was wondering what exactly being Alistair's mistress entails? There are a lot of conflicting statements, I know that she may not be Queen but I was wondering if one chooses to have Alistair to rule alone would he take a wife or rule alone with the GW having him all to herself? Also I just wanted to say that one thing that has really annoyed is people saying that if the GW/Mistress and Alistair had a child then their child would NEVER inherit the throne. By normal means they would not get the throne but if they are all the only heir then they do inherit the throne this has been done throughout history and hell even Alistair is a bastard so that whole thing is just kind of making me a little crazy, lol!

 

I'm going to take the non-gameplay route with this, because gameplay gives you like two lines of dialogue about it and that's all.

 

Spoiler

 

Putting that under a spoiler tag though because it's tl;dr and went waaaay off-topic for this thread. ;)


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By the way, I do not have source nor do I remember where I heard or read this from, but I think there is some dialogue with Alistair and his GW Queen about having children or a child. I think he said he knew of two Grey Wardens who had a child so while it is nearly impossible, there still is that small chance. 

 

Speaking of which do you think it is possible for a child of two GWs to have an immunity to the taint, as in they would not have a death sentence over their head as soon as they were born? Also imagine if Blackwall is a child of two passed GWs, that would be interesting at least in my eyes it would be. 



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Well an Alistair/Warden pairing is infertile, so there never will be any bastards (or legitimate children in a royal marriage with Ciusland) so yeah, he needs those heirs. And mistress Warden gets to be a Fereldan Madame du Pompadour and never has to worry about being divorced because of said infertility. Not a bad deal, reallly.

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As for Eamon well...he can go find a duck and royally kiss its... :D

Hehehehe! There are times in the game... ;)

 


Ah that means it is similar to having to convince him to have the Warden be his wife...I know they must be rather persuasive, and Elissa *coughs* was very persuasive.

Persuasive, hmmm? :D



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Folks have been talking about. Right now, it looks like we're doing about 7-10 pages, so ideally we won't hit Page 3000 til the weekend. 

 

We should probably sound off, tho, with who will be contributing. As a reminder:

 

1. It can be anything so long as it's Culleny. Fic, photo manips, banter, recipes, art, etc.

2. If it's longer than about 500 WORDS, post it elsewhere and link.

3. Beware NSFW. Links only, with warnings. (inside spoiler tags don't count)

4. No chatter on Page 3000, just celebration. You can congratulate and comment once we hit 3001. 

5. If you won't be around, let me know and I'll save you a spot. 

I have a picture (my first Cullen art - a real labor of love) and a fanfic this time. The fanfic has turned into quite the endeavor, so I will just be linking the first couple chapters... ^_^


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I'm going to take the non-gameplay route with this, because gameplay gives you like two lines of dialogue about it and that's all.

 

Spoiler

 

Putting that under a spoiler tag though because it's tl;dr and went waaaay off-topic for this thread. ;)

*Sighs* You put my thoughts into a passage that is far more eloquate than anything I could had produced, so thank you for that.  :) You see I am a BIG history buff especially when it comes to Medieval Society so I know how marriage, courting, the process of producing of heirs went/line of succession; that's why I was/am so torn. Eventually I know that Alistair would have to have marry someone else even if he was left alone on throne. So since this character I have is such a sweetheart I think that would probably break her heart and it would make her all the more upset if he had a child with another person even though logically she knew that is the way things have to be. I don't know this character I have is one of the ones who I like the most so I am really trying to be careful.


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Well an Alistair/Warden pairing is infertile, so there never will be any bastards (or legitimate children in a royal marriage with Ciusland) so yeah, he needs those heirs. And mistress Warden gets to be a Fereldan Madame du Pompadour and never has to worry about being divorced because of said infertility. Not a bad deal, reallly.

 

The text I bolded nearly made me spit out my water, lol! While don't get me wrong the likelihood of an offspring of two Wardens happening is extremely rare, I still think there is that slight chance. I could be wrong, I hope not...maybe Gaider would be kind off to answer this question? I don't know what I would call myself...I am optimistic about some things such as the offspring of GWs, but then again I am at times a Realist...so I have no clue what I am.

Hehehehe! There are times in the game... ;)

 

Persuasive, hmmm? :D

You know it! I think if I could had made my own dialogue options...I'd have two....

 

"SON/GIRL, YOU NEED THE MAKER/Andraste(take the the out if Andraste was used.)!!!" A little ode to "YOU NEED JESUS!" And then the other one would have to be. "You know what? How about you go find a nug and royally screw it because I'm done!"

 

I believe a nickname my cousin gave her was "Crimson Vixen"....she had red hair and yes she was indeed persuasive...poor Cammen...that is one of her lower moments.  :ph34r:


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