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[Aunty Social]

Some Cullen (By Gala and SweetCandyRain)  Hopefully, Gala doesn't mind me sharing,  I her works

 

http://sweetcandyrai...ullen-182829230

 

http://sweetcandyrai...-Gift-229346316

 

 

Sorry for not actually doinf the pictures, I keep botchin up the tags.

 

(I just woke up and I had a neeed for some Cullen )  I can't have caffeine so ^^ tags botched

 

Doc appt today, so hopefully all my meds can be worked out an I can co,e back without having to try and skip posts.  I'll see you guys this afternoon hopefully!

 

(Also, one of you lovelies suggested chamomile tea, and that helped a lot.  Super thumbs up and thank you (again)).

[HiroVoid]

I don't make many moral choices in my games, instead going by what I think leads to the strongest story/most potential for fun later.

Don't have a save like this since all mine were deleted, but this is probably what I'll import from the keep such as using Married Alistair/Anora with Grey Warden Loghain, and going through the dark ritual with Morrigan.

[Xilizhra]

Nothing wrong in joining the templars in killing a bunch of hypocrytical blood mages and abominations.

Yes, that's what happens in Enemies Among Us. Not at all in The Last Straw.

[jtav]

Don't have a save like this since all mine were deleted, but this is probably what I'll import from the keep such as using Married Alistair/Anora with Grey Warden Loghain, and going through the dark ritual with Morrigan.

I'm hoping someone will eventually leak something about the consequences of these choices. I had to metagame pretty hard to kill Alistair and didn't particularly enjoy it.

[CENIC]

I don't make many moral choices in my games, instead going by what I think leads to the strongest story/most potential for fun later.

That's how I approach it too.

If I were making a "me" world state me!Warden would have suicided by archdemon after being dumped by Alistair/asked by Morrigan to convince him to sleep with her, and me!Hawke would have forced Anders to help clean up his mess.

[john-in-france]

@Natarsi, sounds fun, enjoy yourselves!

[Reaverwind]

Siding with the templars throughout Act 3 and into the endgame gets you Mereduth's backstory, tension with a GW sibling, calling out Orsino, an RP opportunity in what to do with the mages, and a nice Cullen scene. I prefer it.

 

I had initially sided with the mages, but when I encountered the abominations and demons loose in the city, I reloaded and sided with the templars. It was definitely more satisfying.

 

That being said, I think Act 3 has serious issues with the way the story unfolds. It makes it really hard to side with Meredith. What should have happened is the Chantry blows up, the city dissolves into chaos, Hawke and co get caught in the mess trying to stop looting and what not and / or trying to get friends and family out, and ONLY THEN get pulled into the conflict between the mages and templars. Siding with the templars is much more plausible because Hawke has seen firsthand what the unleashed demons are doing. None of this bull-hockey cutscene nonsense where all the major players are conveniently located in one place to force a binary decision when the Chantry blow up. Contrivance much?  I'd like it very much if game developers started remembering video games aren't movies and start playing to the media's strengths. /rant

[Xilizhra]

I don't make many moral choices in my games, instead going by what I think leads to the strongest story/most potential for fun later.

I can't enjoy choices that go against my own morality.

[riverbanks]

The templar ending is the abject failure.

Again you are speaking in absolutes about something that is a choice in a game about making choices. Another player's Warden is not "wrong" for siding with the Templars because yours didn't. Another player's Hawke is not a "failure" for siding with the Templars because yours didn't. Your gameplay is not the only valid one.

This is why it's hard to stay engaged in this tired "discussion" about Cullen that you want - because it's not so much a discussion about his character as it is you saying "I am right, everyone else is wrong" over and over, and not acknowleging anyone else's point of view.

I'm all for discussing Cullen's bad sides along with the good ones, let's deconstruct his character to the last piece of the puzzle; but honestly I'm not seeing where the point of "Cullen is irredeemable because I say so" really takes us.

[john-in-france]

Then Xil you have to accept that you are playing a self insert.

 

In which case go ahead and enjoy yourself, but please remember that some of us are RPGing, and in doing so will be using the laws of Thedas and the Chantry as our basis to do so.

 

I think we all look forward to ending the war...

[wiccame]

I don't make many moral choices in my games, instead going by what I think leads to the strongest story/most potential for fun later.

I mostly make moral choices because I feel so guilty otherwise. Saying that though I have sided with templars a couple of times but that really took a lot of willpower to follow through. I have yet to kill Connor, side with werewolves even recruit Loghain because......I am weak.

[Xilizhra]

Again you are speaking in absolutes about something that is a choice in a game about making choices. Another player's Warden is not "wrong" for siding with the Templars because yours didn't. Another player's Hawke is not a "failure" for siding with the Templars because yours didn't. Your gameplay is not the only valid one.

This is why it's hard to stay engaged in this tired "discussion" about Cullen that you want - because it's not so much a discussion about his character as it is you saying "I am right, everyone else is wrong" over and over, and not acknowleging anyone else's point of view.

I'm all for discussing Cullen's bad sides along with the good ones, let's deconstruct his character to the last piece of the puzzle; but honestly I'm not seeing where the point of "Cullen is irredeemable because I say so" really takes us.

I never said Cullen was irredeemable, fear not; he clearly isn't. Also, that post was in direct response to someone saying that the mage ending had been a failure.

[CuriousArtemis]

I mostly make moral choices because I feel so guilty otherwise. Saying that though I have sided with templars a couple of times but that really took a lot of willpower to follow through. I have yet to kill Connor, side with werewolves even recruit Loghain because......I am weak.

 

I've never recruited Loghain, never killed Anders, and never sided with the templars. And I always get Zathrian to off himself However for some reason I don't mind killing Connor... maybe I'm just not into kids

[The Elder King]

I didn't think her Act 1 quest was that bad. She just wanted to use Ketojan as a scapegoat. She's a zealot gone wrong. No, Act 2 is where I began to despise her. Especially with her killing of Saemus Dunmar.

Well, I was already not too keen of her in act 1.
By no means she's a bad character in terms of writing, but she's one I wouldn't spare in most my playthroughs, even pro-Chantry/templars one. I'd roleplay an extremistic pro-Chantry character, or one that enjoys chaos and death to spare her.  

I should point out that the deaths of innocents were not the goal of blowing up the Chantry, and that the number of casualties would logically be far lower.
 
I wouldn't call Anders a "good" person at that moment, but I think that he'd be easier to redeem than Cullen.

Depends on the path. In rivarly killing him is a mercy. In friendship, I would say he can be reedemed...if I was sure Justice wouldn't assume direct control the moment he'd do (or not do) something that the spirit wants.
  

I look forward to hopefully ending this war in DAI.

Still doubt on the war ending definitely, and not just in the region.

[Panda]

There is couple of things I haven't done but I have: defiled ashes, sided with templars in both games, killed Wynne, killed Anders, sided with Zathrian (he's pretty strong in the last battle btw ^^), killed Connor, killed Isolde, sided with Petrice, cheated LI.. I can't remember anymore but I have done lot lol!

[HiroVoid]

Well, I was already not too keen of her in act 1.
By no means she's a bad character in terms of writing, but she's one I wouldn't spare in most my playthroughs, even pro-Chantry/templars one. I'd roleplay an extremistic pro-Chantry character, or one that enjoys chaos and death to spare her.  

 

Depends on the path. In rivarly killing him is a mercy. In friendship, I would say he can be reedemed...if I was sure Justice wouldn't assume direct control the moment he'd do (or not do) something that the spirit wants.

 

Still doubt on the war ending definitely, and not just in the region.

The best way to redeem Anders is by showing how he can help people by convincing him to stop the mages.

 

I also doubt the mage war will end in this game.  We can probably score a big victory, but not an actual end.

[alwayshungry]

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[Hellion Rex]

Siding with the templars throughout Act 3 and into the endgame gets you Mereduth's backstory, tension with a GW sibling, calling out Orsino, an RP opportunity in what to do with the mages, and a nice Cullen scene. I prefer it.

I would have loved to get Meredith's backstory, even if you side with the mages. It made the character a lot more rich in my opinion. I'd still hate her guts, but she was a really well done character. I inifinitely preferred her to Orsino.

[Hellion Rex]

I also doubt the mage war will end in this game.  We can probably score a big victory, but not an actual end.

Cameron Lee said that we will end it, and probably very early into the game.

[Reaverwind]

There is couple of things I haven't done but I have: defiled ashes, sided with templars in both games, killed Wynne, killed Anders, sided with Zathrian (he's pretty strong in the last battle btw ^^), killed Connor, killed Isolde, sided with Petrice, cheated LI.. I can't remember anymore but I have done lot lol!

 

Ooh - I don't know why I never sided with Zathrian. I was kinda disappointed with the werewolves in the final battle. At what point did you kill Wynne? I've killed her in the Circle (thank you Morrigan  ) . I usually side with Petrice. Cheating in Origins is a lot more fun - popcorn optional.

[MacyNell]

I've not seen these! Dorian is very ... oiled up... in this particular art piece, isn't he? 

He certainly is. This particular artist, in addition to simply being able to draw people in a particularly pleasing manner, also conveys sensuality so boldly and perfectly.  No matter who you ship with whom, one would have to admit the art is gorgeous.

[riverbanks]

I have yet to kill Connor, side with werewolves even recruit Loghain because......I am weak.

A tip for roleplaying the harsher, more pragmatic choices if you're too goody good to make them otherwise: try playing a dwarf. A very angry one, with no time or patience for beeswax. The dwarf noble worked better for me on this because you come out of that origin hating everything and everyone, but the casteless one works too if you play it from the right "too tired to give a sh*t anymore" angle.

Because dwarves have no contact with magic and are generally distrustful of it, it becomes easier to roleplay those harder choices as being part of your generally magic-fearing persona. Getting mages to perform a weird ritual? No way, let's just kill this demon kid before he destroys the entire village and castle and the army you came here to get. Later in the Dalish quest, take the same angle - creepy mage using creepy magic to curse innocent people and unnaturally prolong his life? Nothing an axe to the face won't fix. Pretend the cure dialogue isn't there, you're not even giving him the chance to explain himself. Then when you go back to camp and the elves attack you, you can roleplay that, ooooh crap you only meant to kill the creepy evil mage, this has gone way worse than you planned; now you have no way out but to kill the rest of the elves before they kill you.

At the Landsmeet, recruiting Loghain becomes a whole lot easier too - you're a dwarf, your entire life beats to the drum of fighting darkspawn. You know what and how many they really are, the threat they really pose, what a difference even one more Warden in the ranks can make. Alistair still has too romantic a view of what the Grey Wardens are, but you know the ugly truth is there is no end to the spawn, and you need warriors, not legends. If you have to lose one hopeless romantic to gain one more no-nonsense sword, so be it.

If you have trouble making these choices on more balanced characters, try channeling your most angry, helplessly impotent side and taking it all out on a Warden who just doesn't care. Anything to stop the Blight, as Duncan says. It's hard to stay in character at first and not mellow out down the road, but a playthrough that is the reverse of all your usual choices can be surprisingly cathartic in the end, exploring sides of your psyche that you don't even know you have.

[Panda]

Ooh - I don't know why I never sided with Zathrian. I was kinda disappointed with the werewolves in the final battle. At what point did you kill Wynne? I've killed her in the Circle (thank you Morrigan  ) . I usually side with Petrice. Cheating in Origins is a lot more fun - popcorn optional.

 

In my first playthroughs when I was noob I didn't know she was potential companions. First time she attacked me because of Morrigan I think, then I think I just picked from dialogue choices sometimes too what triggered her to attack me. It took me sometime before she joined in my party XD

[The Elder King]

The best way to redeem Anders is by showing how he can help people by convincing him to stop the mages.
 
I also doubt the mage war will end in this game.  We can probably score a big victory, but not an actual end.

I support the Circle in my canon. My Hakwe was neutral, and the Circle wasn't responsible for Anders' act.
I agree on the war not ending this time.

[wiccame]

I've never recruited Loghain, never killed Anders, and never sided with the templars. And I always get Zathrian to off himself However for some reason I don't mind killing Connor... maybe I'm just not into kids

I accidentally killed him once, well Isolde did and it broke my heart...I played through to where Alistair really laid into me and it made me feel 10 times worse so I just reloaded. I never go near Eamons room anymore lol. I let Isolde do the ritual once maybe twice, but she is such a cow to Alistair she deserved it. If he isn't going to take offence at the way she treated him, I am going to have to on his behalf!