I would appreciate knowing. Anders and Alisitair were exhausting and angsty to the point where it was unfun.
The Official Cullen Discussion Thread v.3.0
#77401
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:34
#77402
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:38
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#77403
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:40
I would appreciate knowing. Anders and Alisitair were exhausting and angsty to the point where it was unfun.
I didn't find Alistair angsty at all. Anders, however, was SO angsty that I swear he was suffering with depression.
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#77404
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:44
DG said that fans ask for a normal romance, but that we don't really want one...so he engages evil mode. Yes, he is the one responsible for Alistair breaking up with us after the Landsmeet, and then if you don't do DR, Alistair sacrifices himself to save you...his true love. The tears after that one...
So regardless of the fact that DG did not write Cullen, I'm expecting some form of angst or feels, especially after Liz tweeted that she now drinks a glass of wine a night due to the 'Feelz'.
On the Anders front I am perhaps the worst person on this thread to ask...29 playthroughs of DA2, Anders dead 29 times...regardless of Mage/Templar ending. I am a bad, bad person ==== ![]()
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#77405
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:46
I didn't find Alistair angsty at all. Anders, however, was SO angsty that I swear he was suffering with depression.
You're right about Alistair, he wasn't angsty at all he was just a:

#77406
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:47
This is why I am reluctant to do the Ultimate Sacrifice with my Cousland Warden or Mahariel Warden...too much feels and hurt for either Leliana or Morrigan.
But I did think of doing it ONCE...just to see...much like with keeping Loghain alive...
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#77407
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:48
I didn't find Alistair angsty at all. Anders, however, was SO angsty that I swear he was suffering with depression.
Well, it was less him and more the sheer number of hoops you had to jump through. You have to be playing a very specific kind of Warden to get a happy ending with him, especially if you dislike the HN. I prefer Morrigan's unvarying bittersweetness.
#77408
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:52
Well, it was less him and more the sheer number of hoops you had to jump through. You have to be playing a very specific kind of Warden to get a happy ending with him, especially if you dislike the HN. I prefer Morrigan's unvarying bittersweetness.
Worked fine with me and I was a human mage. We stayed as Wardens together and it was all good. Didn't feel like I was jumping through any hoops or anything... If anything I found him a little too quick to give all the control to my Warden surrounding him and his fates.
#77409
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:52
And, er, I think DG is wrong that the fans don't want a normal romance. Look at the enormous popularity of Garrus' romance. Or Leliana. Or Merrill's friendship romance. Yes, they have issues, but I'd never call them angsty.
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#77410
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:52
We could ask Liz how easy Cullen is to romance in terms of angst and willingness?
We could try
Can you do it? I don't know how to phrase it best.
:sputter:
I can't believe you guys are really going to ask Liz how "easy" Cullen is! Bwahahaha! I can't wait to see how she answers that.

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#77412
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:56
Mwahhaha....can't wait for a reply to that one!
#77413
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:56
#77414
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:57
I don't mind a bit of angst as long as there is a light at the end of the tunnel, I don't enjoy constant gloom and doom. I didn't find Alistair angsty atall but Anders was really difficult and it just felt, to me, like too much hard work with little or no reward. I wouldn't want it to be like that with Cullens romance or friend path, I love helping an LI overcome angst but I'm selfish and would want some postivity to come of my efforts lol.
I really hope that there are at least some decent signals from the companions if you are on the verge of triggering the romance content. I have a bad habit of missing the completely obvious, so if signs or signals are hidden or too subtle, I'm going to spend most of the game going "head-desk" and reloading because I've either missed them or triggered romance with the wrong companion.
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#77415
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:58
@Jtav, I agree, but how normal? In ME2 I preferred Thane, but in ME3 Garrus was the King of Romance...
#77416
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:58
:sputter:
I can't believe you guys are really going to ask Liz how "easy" Cullen is! Bwahahaha! I can't wait to see how she answers that.
If it were up to me, I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to even phrase the question...but now that it's been bandied about, I seriously want to know the answer! *waggles eyebrows* ![]()
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#77417
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 06:59
Pst! Your mutant powers are showing.... how the hell can you recall and site a post from 3 years ago?!
LOL! Indeed, mentally archiving the Cullen thread is my special, and utterly useless, Super Power. ![]()
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#77418
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 07:00
I'm just curious about his thought process, surrounding why he's now willing to date a mage, especially after everything he's been through and was conditioned to believe. That's one of the reasons why I'm gonna play as the circle mage background to add that extra layer of prisoner/guard to the mix to see if he actually makes any comments about his previous job and her ex-circle mage status, especially since the circle mage background states that we actually rebelled and actively killed Templars to protect ourself.
Same. The templar killing part is why I question the possibility of her wanting to romance Cullen, but maybe he's just irresistible, and she will totally lose her head. That happened with my mages and ex-templars before
We'll see ![]()
I didn't find Alistair angsty at all. Anders, however, was SO angsty that I swear he was suffering with depression.
I swear, Anders' depression was contagious. It made me feel really bad irl, and today I loaded that old save to see what happens when you side with Meredith, and kill those mages, who Cullen was trying to save, and Anders totally had that Dementor effect on me again ![]()
But I got a disappointed Cullen picture as a reward:

I believe the interview with Brianne Battye hints on that Cullen was in denial about Meredith ("wanted to trust her" part), and here we can see that she shatters whatever illusions he had about her, and when she orders to kill Hawke too, it's the final nail into the lid of her coffin.
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#77419
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 07:00
Done!
Me: "@Liz_Lehtonen Out of curiosity, does Cullen's romance arc have a good degree of angst? Or is he easy like Sunday morning? #DAI"
Ah, and there it is. So perfect. ![]()
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#77420
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 07:01
Aww, ok, I just hope it doesn't happen after the first dinner
I want a tasteful amount of angst and issues, that must be resolved first. Especially because I'm going to play as a mage Trevelyan, so they will have a lot to discuss, even though she doesn't give a damn about Circles and mage rights
Agree, but from all accounts, it doesn't sound like sex is the endgame for all of these romances. So ideally we'll have plenty of depth along with our shallow "woo" breaks. ![]()
Yes, I'd imagine there'll have to be issues for a Lavellan romance as well. But I'm guessing whatever the main angst is, it has to apply to both a human or elf, and a mage or non-mage. I can't imagine they'd want to "spend" a major portion of the word budget creating completely separate threads (though I'd be disappointed if there weren't some differences, considering his background).
Agree, I'll be surprised if there's a huge variation. But I do expect slightly more reactivity than DA2. (aka the Goldilocks expectation: "exactly the right amount of reactivity!" what could go wrong?!)
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#77421
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 07:02
Icyone...I'm still debating if they are going to use a heart flirt option or a different way of initiating...after all how did Blackwall ninjamance a dev?
That has me worried as I was planning on Blackwall being on my go to team. I headcannon that my quizzy regardless of being Andrastean doesn't forgive Cass for the sword moment...well at least not easily.
#77422
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 07:04
I prefer angsty romances ^^ ... so long as they have happy endings! That's why I always have to go for the "breath" ending for ME3 ![]()
EDIT: I just like really romantic, emotional romances. Lots of pent up feelings and such... you know the drill. Straight up romance stuff
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#77423
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 07:05
You're right about Alistair, he wasn't angsty at all he was just a:
Ha! I told my husband a few days ago that I was starting a new game in which to romance Alistair. He only played the game twice through when it was first released, but his only reply was, "Alistair is a whiny little b****."
It's funny, on my male playthroughs I agree, but he seems to be a lot softer if you're playing a female.
#77424
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 07:06
It's funny, on my male playthroughs I agree, but he seems to be a lot softer if you're playing a female.
I only play males and never found him whiny... he's like 20 years old and alone in the world. He lost his father figure... he has the responsibility of a nation on his shoulders, and he can't handle it, so he passes it off to you. It's heartbreaking. He's a nice young man in a crappy situation.
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#77425
Posté 05 octobre 2014 - 07:12
You're right about Alistair, he wasn't angsty at all he was just a:
And yet he's the overall most romanced companion. Funny that. And yes, I did romance him.
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